Are y'all watching this circus on TV? You must be, because you know all the details! What channel is it on??? I only see this Jodi nut on the 5pm news and she makes me absolutely crazy with her smugness....but I want to try to watch the proceedings if I have it on ATT U-Verse....I am reading this thread and it is like reading anovel!! Y'all are doing a great job! Keep it up! If I cant stomach watching it, I can enjoy it thru this thread!

Wow!! The impeachment thing sounds complicated.... I have never heard of such.... I'm so afraid the defense is pulling out ALL stops for a mistrial...? It's only tax paper money to them I guess??!!
Lady Jane, that post you wrote about new evidence.... Is that really possible? Or probable???
I heard that in any case, even if Jodi is found guilty of first degree murder that it will be 20-25 years before the case is closed/ she's put to death....? Geez Loise..... I'm sorry to be cheap.... But Jodi is a bad seed, and I don't feel generous about paying tax paper money to keep her in jail.
I am saddest about poor Travis being assassinated all over again.... And no one but Juan, can try to defend him.....
A random question/thought....... If Jodi is so sneaky to break into his emails, bank accounts, etc..... How do we not know she didnt plant/write some of the texts on Travis's phone.... She's so conniving and manipulative and technologically savvy, I wouldn't put it past her to have staged his texts.... He didn't save phone sex or seem aware that she was recording the phone sex ..... I wouldn't put anything past her and I DO believe everything she did was premeditated - I think her journals were staged, everything..... She is the most dangerous of women! Truly wicked!
I pray justice prevails!!

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This was exactly what I was thinking!!!! And she is obviously sooooo confident in her own skills, whatever she thinks they may be.....

Judy, it's on HLN.

Yes, Judy, HLN carries it every evening all evening!!! You can't turn over there for headlines as usual because they are covering every detail. During the days when trial is in session, they even carry. I can't hardly watch it very long live as before you know it it gets so graphic and yuck you are blushing and uncomfortable in your own den! But once trial is over, then they immediately start the rehash and some of the earlier evening HLN shows might leave a little bit to the imagination and skip some of the worst of it but later on, they cover ever gory detail again so watch with your finger on the Mute button!
Also, if you put "Jodi Arias trial" in the search in Twitter, you can pretty much keep up that way as people read news about the trial or TV. And they will link you to stories and evidence published that finds its way online. They also link you to the stations live streaming court itself so you can watch it live from the internet. It's everywhere and we're all sick of it but still want to get the latest! Always looking for the latest tidbit that might make one feel more like this murderer won't get off scott free!

Thanks! It will make for a good break while doing taxes!

On weekends, HLN does other programming afternoons and evenings but M-F afternoon/evenings, it is just all about Arias, the same way it was with Casey Anthony. It gets old quick so it doesn't take much watching to catch up.

Update on the impeachment proceedings. The impeachment could have occured in cross that's why Juan asked specific questions. There won't be a hearing on impeachment, but this could result in a perjury charge for Alyce. A perjury charge would mean all her testomony would be thrown out.


The actual number of men who she testified on behalf in a criminal trial was zero, and she said one or two, then tried to say she wrote a paper for one. That's a big and stupid lie, I know she'd know the answer to that, but she tried to mislead the jury in a serious way.

I may have to impeach my own posts! Now, I'm not sure if the actual number is one or zero. So if she said 1 or 2 and it was 1, that really wouldn't be a lie. I can't seem to find any details and took the word of someone who said zero. In that case, 1 or 2 would not be a lie, just misleading.

nevermind..haha

I was shocked to hear that testimony by her and that Martinez didn't seem to know for sure either. Maybe he did but you would have thought he would reference at least something about the case in some way if he had it and that she wouldn't have a ready list to present in case questioned as well as to present to potential trial lawyers interested in her. But he didn't seem to press that home like you'd think he would if he had all of the details - he seemed to back off - or maybe the phone rang and I just missed that part. But her response really surprised me - I thought expert witnesses could whip out all of the full details of every case they worked from an encoded jump drive on their keychain or in their phone! At least have a ready list somewhere within reach in case questioned about it.

I was shocked that Martinez didn't seem to have that information about her prior case testimony via Westlaw, LN or one of those services and get more into that. IDK, maybe he did and just didn't refer to particulars in the case due to the case being publicly televised but either I missed it or he just didn't go in for the kill on that.

Someone had asked about the state's expert witness, she won't be coming on until the defense rests. The state's expert is Dr. Janeen Demarte. Psychology Today lists some of the issues DeMarte deals with:

- Anger Management
- Behavioral Issues
- Depression
- Domestic Violence
- Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)
- Sexual Addiction
- Teen Violence
- Antisocial Personality
- Borderline Personality
- Narcissistic Personality
- Domestic Abuse
- Sexual Abuse
- Oppositional Defiance
- Suicidal Ideation
- Bipolar Disorder
- Psychosis
It sounds like she's perfect for figuring out Jodi! Here's more information on her. My Crime Time: 2013-04-07

What's also interesting is that her home was broken in this past Feb and her laptop was stolen. In that laptop was a psychological profile of Jodi Arias.

Well, I'm glad they will have someone to counteract those last two dogs and pony shows defense put up. haha. I'm convinced without anything but their improbable stories and the facts of the case Arias murdered with intent but it sure is good to know someone is coming on to clean up any mess they left with that one juror the defense is trying so hard to reach - because it is hard to believe more than one out of twelve people could possibly fall for Arias' story. I'm really interested to hear from Janeen, though leaving a critical file in a huge legal case on a home computer bespeaks a slightly careless side of her.

Oh, man, wouldn't that be something if they could tie that theft to the defense or later found out they had bought an underground copy of that profile? And wouldn't it be fun if the profile in the stolen computer was a sham file under Arias' name but the real thing was on a zip drive in the vault at Martinez' office, safely waiting for review just trial?

Lol, you have quite the imagination, don't you? There is so much about the case that is just larger than life, you wouldn't believe it if it were in a movie.

haha. Couldn't agree more! Well, it certainly has been a circus show all the way around with all of the wild media coverage and internet buzz and it's so sad. A young guy died horribly at her hands but you know what they always say, juries are rarely willing to put to death someone they feel they have come to know, let alone a young woman - and on top of that - one crying "domestic abuse". I'm so scared now that she'll get off light. Well, we'll see what the prosecution's expert witness can do. I sure hope she's not so biased in the prosecution's corner that she loses her credibility, too!

Don't have so little faith. Professionals don't normally act like the ones Jodi's defense obtained.....but think how many people would put their livelihood on the line with a person like Jodi........I don't think the defense probably had a lot to choose from.

The prosecutor, I am so sure, has a professional .. as in a real one without an agenda.

I think any professional would probably sound biased, there really is so much evidence that Jodi is the type of person who could do something like this.

Yikes, Nancy, you are probably right. That expert witness will have so much to testify on she probably will seem biased but if she is good enough, maybe she can come across at least as fair and open-minded. At least this one likely didn't fall into her web of lies like the last two did.

I imagine that defense attorney didn't have a whole lot to choose from. Here's hoping that this one will show those last two "experts" up even more than they did themselves by her air of professionalism.

Btw all, can you even *imagine* being on this jury since JANUARY??? And it's probably not even going to go to the jury phase until MAY? My gawd, it's practically taking a 1/2 year out of their lives! I don't know if I could truly handle a case like that, sitting there day in day out for nearly 6 months. I was a juror in trial that took about 8 days out of my life and it was fine - but SIX months. I might go nutball with that length of case.

No way. Not a chance in hell I could stand it. Kind of scary to me to think who would. :eek:

I think it’s important to remember LaViolette is a victim’s advocate, she comes to this case in a very different way. Forensic psychologists have to sign a paper promising to be unbiased, you can bet they will try, for they probably don't feel the same way about Arias as the rest of us do. For example, I doubt if they hate her. :D The down side to this is that if the defense did get a preview of her notes they can ask the right questions to build the case, and she will answer them impartially, but she will be more likely to give us factual information and that will lead us to the truth.


I also doubt if LaViolette even throughly studied different personality disorders such as narcissism, antisocial and oppositional defiant disorder. I dont' think she cares that much about what the person brings to the situation, but just how do you fix it. For those of you unfamiliar with oppositional defiant disorder (ODD), these people exhibit hostilely defiant behavior toward authority figures. Kicking mothers and tweeting about the prosecution would fall under this category. :D

Some of the other qualities of ODD

Performs actions to deliberately annoy others. Example gave Nancy Grace the finger.
Angry and resentful of others. Example: Killing Travis when he wouldn't take her on vaction.
Argues often. Shown on the witness stand by not answering questions and telling Juan, "That's a compound question."
Blames others for his or her own mistakes. Example: Blames Travis for his own death.
Spiteful or seeks revenge: Example: Kills Travis for not taking her on vacation and tries to ruin his reputation by calling him a pedophile. Look out, Juan if she gets off.


One of the problems I had with LaViolette, was the fact that she said she was “old fashioned” and didn’t want to ask certain questions. I really think this trait kept LaViolette from learning in Arias true feelings of the sexual relationship, and in turn the true relationship, because it was primary a sexual relationship. I don’t think LaViolette understands that those exist without someone (the girl) being the victim.

I totally agree!
1st time I've heard of ODD, but fits her.. among her many other psych "qualities"!
I guess now I'm going to have to be careful, who I call "ODD".. :D

Lol, yes, Jodi's rather odd isn't she? I think it's relatively new since I last studied; (30 years ago, maybe it's not so new). I was just looking at the psychologist's specialties and saw it listed. What made it interesting is the fact that these people want revenge. I suppose revenge is on a sliding scale with some not subjected to the feeling, while other primary operating force is motivated by it, and these people are scary. If it can be shown that Jodi is motivated by feelings of revenge, it would follow that the murder was premeditated.


She's also over the top Narcissistic "Oh Jodi why didn't you put on makeup?"
Here's some of the other narcissistic qualities.
Becoming jealous easily
Lacking empathy and disregarding the feelings of others
Being obsessed with self
Pursuing mainly selfish goals
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Becoming easily hurt and rejected
Setting goals that are unrealistic
Wanting "the best" of everything
Appearing unemotional


There's an old joke among psychologists, "You'll never see a Narcissus coming to therapy unless it's court ordered, they never think anything’s wrong with them.”

I found this blog written by a Dr. Kristina Randle. She has some interesting articles about this trial.

This article looks at Jodi and her personal diagnosis of Antisocial Personality Disorder (essentially, a sociopath). She didn't feel the narcissistic diagnosis completely fits Jodi, this is part of the explanation........"There is no mention in the DSM-IV-TR, of them lying, deceiving, killing, being violent or aggressive"

If you skip to page 6 this is where she starts her analysis.....

Mental Health and Criminal Justice


This is her blog with many more articles, there's a tab labeled "Jodi Arias" at the top.....

Mental Health and Criminal Justice

No doubt of this, you can have several of the disorders and combinations, people seldom fit one disorder perfectly, it just explains how people can behave the way they do and still be considered sane. :p Concerning antisocial personality disorder, these people usually have more trouble with the law than Jodi has previously had. I also don’t see the complete disregard for laws; I think Jodi wanted to be seen as “sweeter” and nicer than the average person. So many people say she wouldn’t kill a fly she took bugs out of water so they wouldn’t drown or something like that. The girls in jail say she’s always ready to help someone, she’s so kind. I think narcissistic fits in many ways, she really believed herself to be so smart she didn’t question her planning as anything less than brilliant and fool proof.

The article you linked is interesting, she says, "She lies with the greatest of sincerity." This is such an important point, it's not just the fact she lies, but the way she lies, how many normal people could do that? I wish Dr. Randle could have talked about oppositional defiant disorder and how it relates to Jodi, but I still believe that some of this isn't one or the other but a blend. She totally discounts borderline personality disorder, but Jodi does so much that reminds me of it. Dressing like her attorney, and changing her personality to fit what someone else seems to want. She doesn't seem to have a clear sense of self. I'm anxious to see what the personality tests indicate. Anyway, it's an excellant article, I'm going to have to read it several times.

By the way, here's an easy to find link to the second article: Jodi Arias Essays | Mental Health & Criminal Justice

That site is interesting...I will be reading for a while but I scanned it and found the facebook page she referred to and then from there found this: :eek::eek:

https://twitter.com/AliceSroka/statu...739456/photo/1

OMG that is so funny AND so true!

Oh, totally agree! I couldn't hack that for a month let alone all this time. They must be going crazy by now. I'll bet they are so sick of all this I can't imagine.

I know...I fell out! :D