I thought she was very unprofessional, I mean Juan got so much criticism and LaViolette even told him he needed a time out and he didn’t call her a bitch! (I did though. :D) Willmott’s other attempts, to be snide also fell short. Once, when DeMarte said something about “we had to do that because of all the inconsistencies, Willmott. smiled and said, in her best Juan impression, “That’s funny because we’re not talking about that now are we?”

Willmott also implied DeMarte boosted her credentials where she “advertised” in Psychology today, it’s very common for masters levels studies to have clients, and in many programs it’s required and yes that would be considered part of the years you have been practicing. Also, trying to put her down for not owning a psychological test was pathetic, there are hundreds of tests and psychologists are not required to own all of them and many tests measure the same thing and psychologists have preferences.

Finally, it was a huge mistake when Willmott told DeMarte that she was wrong and Lenore Walker, who originated the concept of battered women, did not use her own measures. Did Alyce tell her that? :confused: Lenore Walker was interviewed by Nancy Grace last night and she said that was incorrect, she still uses the old measures.

LMAO, that picture!!!! Loving.

Yup, all of this. Wilmott tried *so* hard to trip up DeMarte, and it just fell flat. Instead of coming off irritating, tough, abrasive, and aggressive like Juan - she came off as snippy, trite, and pretty desperate. Still, I do like Wilmott - I think she has a nice style in general, but not as smooth as where it needs to be. I wonder how long she's been in the courtroom practicing...anyone know?

Btw, I don't think she said bitch at all...she wouldn't do that. I think she is saying something like "lemme gitcha" when she is trying to get those papers for DeMarte. That said, it's WAY more entertaining and fun to imagine her saying WHAT A BITCH :D.

[Quote] Btw, I don't think she said bitch at all...she wouldn't do that. I think she is saying something like "lemme gitcha" when she is trying to get those papers for DeMarte. That said, it's WAY more entertaining and fun to imagine her saying WHAT A BITCH [Quote]

I wouldn't think someone would say that either in court either, but when I see Jodi's reaction in the background it convinces me, it was bitch. Her head shot up and she smirked at the remark.

I hope she didn't say it, that would just be over the line, they tried to call a mistrial b/c Juan has intimidated witness, I wasn't sure if she was trying for a mistrial since this would turn the jury against her. :p I liked her okay before she questioned this witness, since it’s an area I possess a little knowledge it really irritated me that she was trying to get the expert to mislead the jury, if the truth doesn’t work, don’t bend it, find another possible truth. I did think she had a serious low point when she irritatingly asked something about, are you trying to say you can’t get any more information from Travis Alexander? Demarte was such a professional, I'm just so impressed.

Here's another picture I thought was funny.

Hope the judge doesn't allow the defense's motion for a surrebuttal and another "expert witness" for Jodi. Janeen's assessment of personality disorder isn't "new evidence". They had every chance to know what Janeen was going to testify and test and address Arias themselves over this issue during their case in main and didn't want to go there.

Will she never stop???? I just heard watching the late Nancy Grace show, that now Arias is coming out with the fact that she was pregnant with Travis Alexander's child!!! Her fantasy story just keeps growing and growing and growing and she has no idea of how sad and pathetic and just plain old obvious her "stories" are. All this time and she's never before mentioned to a soul that she was pregnant? IDK what is supposed to have happened to the baby or if she aborted or miscarried or what - just that NG said Arias said she was pregnant. Was that in testimony when she was on the stand? I'll admit I don't really watch the trial itself except on one or two occasions, watching at times for 5 mins. or so at times but mostly catch up with it on HLN's evening shows or internet news stories or occas. blogs. So I've missed the most of her actual testimony but boy, I think I'd have picked up on the pregnancy issue had it been mentioned before.

Oh, I hear now, some guy named ?Mike Walker? saying that she says she was pregnant and lost the baby via miscarriage but no details of when or what hospital she was treated in for treatment - no nothing. So IDK if she really even said that - just some guy saying she said it and he's only saying he got this from his source. And he says she is writing a book on legal pads in jail and I guess in court, to get rich from when she gets off! I did hear someone earlier on another program mention the book.

Did you guys hear that the judge is saying the trial will go to the jury by next Friday? So all that's left for trial is next Weds (no trial now until then), Th, Fri. Cannot believe the END is in our SIGHT. Good gawd.

I'm so glad it's coming to an end, I just won't be able to take it if she gets off too and by this I mean manslaughter or any type of self-defense ruling. I really do think she's a danger to society. I felt so bad for Deanna and she had to answer some very private things and Nurmi was so rude to her. During her testimony, Jodi is using her little yellow pencil to do her eyebrows. It really bothered me because she was trying to be sneaky about it, it like she thinks she so smart and can trick everyone. I think this little clip says so much about her. Anyway, it starts at 46.32 and continues watching to 46.40. In just 8 seconds you can see so much, she has no empathy for anyone else.

I agree...Nurmi was a total ass.

I am also glad this is over...too many people have been hurt by this mess and that witch sits there thinking about no one but herself. I don't think she will get off....maybe that
is wishful thinking. I dunno.....

I'm wondering if the Casey Anthony trial will have any impact on these jurors. I think it might encourage them to hold her accountable for what she did.

I certainly hope so!

Based on the questions they submitted, I don't think the jury is going to have a difficult time convicting her. I realize it only takes one, but I think the one will be made to listen to reason by the others. I cannot see anyone using only a fraction of his/her brain not seeing that this was a premeditated murder.

I've heard that the guy that was dismissed (juror number 8) was always taking notes and submitted questions. He impressed people and some thought he's probably make a good foreman. Anyway, he was arrested for DUI last weekend, and all I can say is, poor guy, I don't blame him for wanting to get drunk!

I heard the same things you did on HLN about his persona and note taking but didn't know about the DUI. Wow! Nancy, you are a mine of information!

I wonder if he will come forward and talk after the case goes to the jury or is finally over? I'd like to hear what he's got to say. I'd like to hear what all of them have to say and how they stood it for so long.

My goodness, as long as this trial is going on, it's a wonder one or two people haven't found a lot of excuses to get out of it. That has got to be pretty tough duty to pull, unending proximity to one of the vilest creatures ever to breathe and then having to hear and see all of the bad stuff and all about her neuroses and psychoses and her weird thoughts and ways. I've heard enough to be sick to my stomach and I just watch TV about it and only have seen maybe 2 hours of the trial one day live. And then the behavior of Travis - he's no saint or any woman's answer to the perfect mate but still he didn't deserve anything like all that that woman did to him. There was one picture of his slit throat that they said showed the wound was so deep one could see the internal structures of his neck, including vertebrae, and that it was so graphic, it could not be shown on TV, even with a disclaimer. I would imagine that months of all that stuff finally would work its way into the psyche and wear a person down. I guess that juror just finally lost it. (BTW, drink all you want, buddy, and try to forget all the horror of Arias' handiwork but stay out of the car when you do.)

After Casey Anthony, I don't trust our system to work! :-{
I am so worried she s going to get off - write a book - have a movie about her life, etc.... She's not only suffering from a borderline personality disorder she is a malignant narcissist!
I have been watching HLN After Dark and there are always 1-3 of their mock jury that find her not guilty - which is stunning to me!!???
I know in the end, she will pay one way or another, when she meets her Maker - but in the interim I would like to see a little justice! I want her to be on death row - in solitary confinement - where she will be stuck in a cell alone with herself! Now that would be hell on earth!
I read that Nurmi has tried to get off this case multiple times and couldn't - so that helps explain why he looks like a bump on a log every day - he's miserable and knows she's guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt!!
Another disturbing thing I heard on the news is that Jodi has a 'following' of supporters and unlike Casey Anthony, she will not be as hated should she get out - that's just sick! And hard to believe...?
Ok - I'm gonna go find something lighthearted to watch on tv now!!! I am getting toooo worked up over Jodi!! Haha

At least that makes me think Nurmi isn't a total loser, if he's tried to dump her as a client.

That HLN After Dark not-guilty vote rankles, too. And I wonder if they pay them or just strongly suggest that it would be good for ratings if there is a worry by the audience that some people out there don't find Arias to be guilty of the various issues they vote on each night to keep feelings stirred and watchers goaded into watching. It's a pretty inane show and I don't watch it much except at the start to get caught up with the trial and then have to tune it out. I can't believe they pay people to produce something that bad and that tabloid - but that's the way the HLN shows at night mostly are! So how some of that "jury" on there votes is kind of meaningless as who knows what the producer tells or strongly suggests some of the members do with their "vote". Still, it is so against Arias for the most part, I do like to watch enough of it to get my Arias' frustrations soothed for the day. haha. Pretty sad that I'm being manipulated by that show and know it and still want to watch to get my fix. If Arias gets off with a light sentence and profits from all of this somehow, I'll definitely be PO'd but good.

One of the Casey Anthony jurors said that the reason, they found her not guilty of everything, is that the prosecutor never gave them a clear picture of what actually happened, never mind that this isn’t necessary legally, she just wasn’t satisfied she could convict someone without a clear picture in her mind. The reporter tried to argue with her, but she was steadfast in her belief in “reasonable doubt” and this foggy view of exactly what happened led to not guilty verdict. This is one of the things that bother me in this trial. Do you all feel like you have a clear idea on how she did it? Here’s a timeline of photos, at one point when Detective Flores was interviewing her and showed her the photos, she said Travis would never allow anyone to take a photo of him like that. Do you think she used the gun to get him in a vulnerable position? Sometimes, I think she brought the gun and it jammed, this is also what she said in the Ninja story that the gun jammed. They say liars weave truth with fiction. :confused: Anyway, I really wish I could have a clear picture of the sequence of events. I do believe something happened that Jodi didn't plan for; maybe the stab wounds that she thought would kill him didn't incapacitate him as much as she thought they would, and he really did fight back with her more than she thought he would. Any opinions on this?

No, I don't have a clear timeline of exactly what happened but I don't expect to unless there is clear, unambiguous video or several eye witnesses who actually knew the murderer and saw the murder. Of course, I'm not a juror and only watch coverage sporadically but I feel that all of the evidence points to one person being the murderer and the fact that that murder was planned for in many ways. But in any murder trial, usually just the unlikely coincidence of that many things all happening around the time in question that also happen to point in the direction of a single person with a motive and in the area are all we ever get in the way of "evidence" or timelines, so I'm pretty satisfied with them this time and in the Casey Anthony case as well. If a jury decides it needs more than that in any case, so be it. There hardly ever is more. Watch Dateline, 48 Hours or any of the shows about murder, circumstantial evidence is mostly all there is - and more often than not - a whole lot thinner than in Anthony or Arias. But in our system of justice and with all of our freedoms here and people able to move across borders, buy or secure anything anytime easily, friends and family on the go and everybody doing their own thing, there just rarely is a single cut and dried gotcha event or fact that absolutely buttonholes a murderer who kills in the night in a private home with the only witness dead. And murderers count on that.

From the moment I saw that last photo of Travis Alexander looking straight into the camera while in that shower, I saw fear in his eyes and expression. He looks far from sexy - he looks scared and full of dread. I think she had the gun pointed at him for those shower photos. I think at that time, she wanted to memorialize what she was about to do and glory in the body of the man she was planning to ravage.

I think this is true too, there's just something about his eyes.

Tell me, which do you think came first, the gun or the knife?

I always thought she shot him first and kind of addled him, he went to the sink to look in the mirror probably to see how bad his wound was and she started in stabbing him. After that ME testified again last week, I am going with his testimony, I think. I hadn't followed the trial until I started this thread and I didn't know that he'd thought the brain shot was so disabling. Now I'm thinking the head shot was a final kill shot to make certain he was dead before she started her clean-up. For all we know, Arias gave Alexander some amount of GHB in a drink to make him manageable, drew her gun, made him pose for pictures and once he became semi-conscious, started stabbing him, shot him to make certain. Then she took the glass with her or washed it thoroughly and any evidence of the drug in his bloodstream disappeared with time. IDK, though, if GHB in a blood stain or pool of blood remains in some form, disappears but leaves markers or not. Clearly if it does, she didn't use GHB because I'm pretty sure they ran the pooled blood and blood stains for toxins, chemicals and drugs.

This is prettty much how I've thought of it, until you came to the GHB, I didn't think of that, there aren't a lot of seconds between the shots of him standing and the shot of him dead, so I'm not sure a drug was used. Too bad they couldn't find traces, that would have shown clear evidence of premeditated.

True, but all she needed was those first instances when he was hit with it - it can act like a sledgehammer - and boom, the person is wicked impaired and time to strike and all the while the drug is working hard to render them essentially helpless. I was hoping she used it so he was really dazed and out of it as the worst of the attack was happening and he was dying.

I think if that were true though, there wouldn't have been much of a fight, something made Jodi panic and she did have some cuts on her hands and a wonky finger. I think she was panicking when she threw the camera in the washer, I think she meant to take the camera with her.

Well, being a guy maybe she didn't use enough to sledge him - just start the process and he fought her a few seconds while he could, even lying on his back or stomach he could have his hands up and out flailing. And the killing probably did panic her. I don't think she realized she had dumped the camera in the washer in that panic; and like you, I think she planned to take it with her and secretly print her out some photos one day when the coast was clear and burn the camera at some point. I wouldn't put anything past her and can't you envision that weirdo sitting and smiling over those series of photos, knowing what was about to happen and how scared he was? She could enjoy those forever and get to relive her "triumph" over Travis Alexander.

Casey Anthony denied doing it. This B**** admits she did it. I don't think they need a clear picture of how she did it. There are so many things that lead one to believe it was premeditated...I think she is going down for the count.

Yup, I think she meant to take the camera too (although on the flip side, then why did she feel the need to stand there right then and delete all those certain pictures?...still tho, I think she meant to take it). What I think happened w/ the camera is that as she was gathering up the stuff for the washer, the camera got mixed up with all the clothing/towels/sheets etc and she didn't even realize it - and it ended up in the washer by mistake. I wonder how less powerful the case would have been without the camera - I mean those images make it REAL for people - too real! She still would've been charged and all bc of the bloody hand print, but I do wonder...

Yeah, I've never been sure which pictures she deleted, did she delete any after Travis was dead? I doubt if she would have confessed if they didn't have the pictures, remember she had a great excuse for the bloody hand print. She had been cleaning months earlier and cut her hand on a glass. :rolleyes:

On a side note, I read that OJ, Jodi, and Amanda Knox (the girl accused of murder in Italy) all share a July 9, birthday. Weird or what?

Found this on another site and just had to share it. I’ve always wondered more about the emails between the Hughes and Jodi, saying that Travis was abusive. I guess Chris Hughes was on Dr. Drew last night. Here’s what a poster said about the interview.

No kidding? Oh, my! I don't really know anything about the Amanda Knox case but her standing there kissing her new boyfriend and looking so arrogant and uninvolved while the police did crime scene investigation and removal of the body of her roommate sure did turn me off. You'd expect any human to be incredibly sad, very scared that they could be next(!) and spending that time bugging police for details and trying to get to your roommate's parents or at least talking to them. She may be innocent and pure as the driven snow when it comes to involvement in that murder but boy did she behave oddly. I just judged her probably guilty right away and didn't even bother to follow along .