My Thoughts after a year of YT

[AmyChristine]

I totally understand were you are comming from... But what we all have to remember is that alot of people come here for education. This means there are people that will read these theads that are thinking of buying dogs, breeding dogs, finding breeders etc, If we can infuse these threads with as much good, ethical, information as possible then more people will be educated and prepared.

I am less likely to buy from a pet store if I have read where those puppies come from, I am less likely to go to a comercial breeder(usda) if I know how those dogs live. Or to bread my dog for money, the experince, or for fun if I know the risks and the consiquences involved. I love it when someone interjects to teach. Sometimes it gets a little heated but like others said, you can just not post in the heated ones and eventually they will go away.

As animal lovers and breed enthusiasts it would be irresponsible IMO to not say something when someone is making decisions that are less than ideal for our breed. After all that is why we are all here, because we love our yorkies.

[BonBon]

Originally Posted by yorkie2luv

I don't feel you being argumentative at all. If anything this is an example of healthy communication - thank you for that.

I'd do the same thing with showing another point of view. No worries.

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I'm going to do my best to respond above to each one. Man I tell ya' I'm supposed to be working... Responses in Purple

I think we're in agreement that it is often the tone used that is the problem. I admit to being guilty when a topic hits a touchy area with me. That's why I know it's best for me to avoid those situations as best I can. However, I am so very grateful to those that have the courage to stand and defend thier beliefs and values, rather than fearing that someone else might get upset.

[yorkie2luv]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Maybe that is not what you indended, but it is certainly how it seems to come across...



Given that you are a very calm and understanding person, I hope you can see how maybe your own post can be conceived as insulting itself. I understand this is your opinion and do not fault you for expressing it...it all just seems to be a little hypocritical. (To be perfectly honest, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it either way, I don't agree with lots of opinions here, but I think people still have a right to voice them.)

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I commented on how it can be conceived in response to someone earlier. So yes, I see how it can come off as hypocritical. I wouldn't expect you to lose sleep and I didn't say not to voice them.

No worries, totally understand and respect your thoughts.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by yorkie2luv

I wouldn't expect you to lose sleep and I didn't say not to voice them.[/COLOR]

No, I understand. Just making the point that it's not worth it for anyone to get upset because someone has a different opinion....generally speaking.

[yorkie2luv]

Originally Posted by amychristine

i totally understand were you are comming from... But what we all have to remember is that alot of people come here for education. This means there are people that will read these theads that are thinking of buying dogs, breeding dogs, finding breeders etc, if we can infuse these threads with as much good, ethical, information as possible then more people will be educated and prepared.

I am less likely to buy from a pet store if i have read where those puppies come from, i am less likely to go to a comercial breeder(usda) if i know how those dogs live. Or to bread my dog for money, the experince, or for fun if i know the risks and the consiquences involved. I love it when someone interjects to teach. Sometimes it gets a little heated but like others said, you can just not post in the heated ones and eventually they will go away.

As animal lovers and breed enthusiasts it would be irresponsible imo to not say something when someone is making decisions that are less than ideal for our breed. After all that is why we are all here, because we love our yorkies.

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after all that is why we are all here, because we love our yorkies.

- amen

[yorkie2luv]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

No, I understand. Just making the point that it's not worth it for anyone to get upset because someone has a different opinion....generally speaking.

OHHHHH....got it. Thank ya' for the clarification.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by bonbon

My point is simply to offer another point of view on why some members continue, and will continue, to beat the same drum over and over again - to EDUCATE those who may not know.

Originally Posted by AmyChristine

I totally understand were you are comming from... But what we all have to remember is that alot of people come here for education. This means there are people that will read these theads that are thinking of buying dogs, breeding dogs, finding breeders etc, If we can infuse these threads with as much good, ethical, information as possible then more people will be educated and prepared.

I am less likely to buy from a pet store if I have read where those puppies come from, I am less likely to go to a comercial breeder(usda) if I know how those dogs live. Or to bread my dog for money, the experince, or for fun if I know the risks and the consiquences involved. I love it when someone interjects to teach. Sometimes it gets a little heated but like others said, you can just not post in the heated ones and eventually they will go away.

As animal lovers and breed enthusiasts it would be irresponsible IMO to not say something when someone is making decisions that are less than ideal for our breed. After all that is why we are all here, because we love our yorkies.

Originally Posted by bonbon

I think we're in agreement that it is often the tone used that is the problem. I admit to being guilty when a topic hits a touchy area with me. That's why I know it's best for me to avoid those situations as best I can. However, I am so very grateful to those that have the courage to stand and defend thier beliefs and values, rather than fearing that someone else might get upset.

Wow, wow, and WOW...I can't say it better than this...

[yorkie2luv]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Wow, wow, and WOW...I can't say it better than this...

Ok, I'm jealous. Where is my ?

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by yorkie2luv

Ok, I'm jealous. Where is my ?

LOL ! You are so full of awesomeness as well! This thread could've gone a whole 'nother way, ya know? But your panties are not bundling EITHER !

Here ya go:

[yorkie2luv]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

LOL ! You are so full of awesomeness as well! This thread could've gone a whole 'nother way, ya know? But your panties are not bundling EITHER !

Here ya go:

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Yay!!! Thank ya', Thank ya', Thank ya'! I'm full of awesomeness, really? Ohhhh I like that one... Yay!!!!!!!!!!!

Nope, my panties are still cover my "cheeks" so "I'm good" LOL!

[BonBon]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

LOL ! You are so full of awesomeness as well! This thread could've gone a whole 'nother way, ya know? But your panties are not bundling EITHER !

Here ya go:

And here's another one.

[yorkie2luv]

Originally Posted by bonbon

And here's another one.

Ohh thank ya'!!!!!

[lulumom]

i am new here and joined because i'm a research geek and found this to be the best place to learn how to parent my yorkie. indeed, i have gathered immeasurable and truly helpful information from yt.

that said, i see no judgement or any desire to cause a "tif" or even be controversial in anything you wrote. i did not see you calling any individual out, mention any members' name in a derogatory fashion, or even call attention to the specific threads you find troubling (didn't need to, either). i researched your previous posts (i'm so going to try your shampoo and conditioner suggestion on lulu, btw!) and it's obvious to me at least that you've been a positive voice here.

i understand that the points you were making were not a result of you yourself having a negative experience here and am unsure why anyone would find your words contradictory. i find them to be empathetic. i get that you have observed what i will call the unkind treatment of others (as have i) and were posting on their behalf, and with only the best of intentions towards yt. you did not have to go to that trouble and it took guts to do it.

hopefully, people will take the time to actually consider what you've written before they reply. your post deserves it...in my humble, newbie opinion.

[yorkie2luv]

Originally Posted by lulumom

i am new here and joined because i'm a research geek and found this to be the best place to learn how to parent my yorkie. indeed, i have gathered immeasurable and truly helpful information from yt.

that said, i see no judgement or any desire to cause a "tif" or even be controversial in anything you wrote. i did not see you calling any individual out, mention any members' name in a derogatory fashion, or even call attention to the specific threads you find troubling (didn't need to, either). i researched your previous posts (i'm so going to try your shampoo and conditioner suggestion on lulu, btw!) and it's obvious to me at least that you've been a positive voice here.

i understand that the points you were making were not a result of you yourself having a negative experience here and am unsure why anyone would find your words contradictory. i find them to be empathetic. i get that you have observed what i will call the unkind treatment of others (as have i) and were posting on their behalf, and with only the best of intentions towards yt. you did not have to go to that trouble and it took guts to do it.

hopefully, people will take the time to actually consider what you've written before they reply. your post deserves it...in my humble, newbie opinion.

Thank you so very much!!!!! I'm glad to have a "newbie" give their perspective and truly appreciate it.

As for the shampoo and conditioner, it works miracles and makes life easier I tell ya'. It works so well because the Ph balance in ethnic hair care products are lower thus working well with the yorkie hair. Oh and try HappyTails All Natural Dog Shampoo & Spa Products | Itchy Dry Dog Skin, Arthritis Remedies | Pet Odor Removal | Wholesale Dog Supplies - LOVE THEM!

Thank you again and welcome to YT!

[sunshinnes]

"quote" Sometimes it is those same naive parents who transition into what I call the Ultimate YT-er. Now this "Ultimate" title doesn't just fit here as I'm a member of a community service sorority and many other professional organizations and it is the same everywhere.

There are a few Ultimate YT-ers (I don't know names as I don't gossip, stalk or follow folks like that) but I do see them often, that are on here that make it their duty to constantly and consistently down talk, impose ideals on posts people make that have NOTHING to do with what was asked.

This statement in your post would could be construed as "down talk"
to call people or to perceive people as "Naive" is not really a good way to not except responses like you are receiving... and if you see all these post all the time, then you must find them interesting to keep reading, the same people, all the time to know who you consider the "Ultimate YT-ers" if you do not stalk or gossip, then how may I ask do you constantly see their post????