My Thoughts after a year of YT

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by myteddybear

Just my opinion of course but in my way of thinking it is just this type of post that is the biggest problem.

To say, If I had or If it was me etc... is simply not a fair statement. It isn't you and even though you had a situation with a dying dog recently it does not mean that your situation was anything like hers. You don't know her situation, you weren't there, you did not walk in her shoes. You do not know what you would have done in her shoes as you do not know what the entire situation entailed and to say that you would have done such and such is simply uncalled for and won't help the situation. I surely don't see where it is educating.

There are so many variables when dealing with people online who you do not know. You do not know thier family situation, thier mental status, where they are in life or the things that may have changed and gone on in thier lives to bring them where they are right now.

Again, just how I see it.

First of all, I was talking about a hypothetical. I have no idea who the person is that Lulu was talking about.

I stand by what I said. You don't hold a dying animal and refuse to care for it. Let me ask this.....do you think that person, if she had a medical problem and was dying, would get on an online forum and say she was dying? Seriously. I will bet she would find help for herself..or at least try.

As for the remark I made about "if it were me" , let me expound on it a bit and say that "if it were a true animal lover with compassion". Don't even try to tell me that letting an animal suffer and die while you are sitting on a computer typing is love for animals. Oh..you can try to tell me....but I am not buying it.

Yep...your opinion...and mine. Two different view points on responsible pet care.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure

You must be talking about this lil' "Pot Stirrer in Training"...

***(disclaimer: not my child or my pot pictured below!)***

OMG hahahahhaahhaaha

[miabellaamoure]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

OMG hahahahhaahhaaha

Isn't that just the best lil' PT Mascot?

I also agree with others...I think it's time to say, point (well) taken & now let's just raise out glasses to another thread that we should say adieu to...Happy New Year!

[myteddybear]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

First of all, I was talking about a hypothetical. I have no idea who the person is that Lulu was talking about.

I stand by what I said. You don't hold a dying animal and refuse to care for it. Let me ask this.....do you think that person, if she had a medical problem and was dying, would get on an online forum and say she was dying? Seriously. I will bet she would find help for herself..or at least try.

As for the remark I made about "if it were me" , let me expound on it a bit and say that "if it were a true animal lover with compassion". Don't even try to tell me that letting an animal suffer and die while you are sitting on a computer typing is love for animals. Oh..you can try to tell me....but I am not buying it.

Yep...your opinion...and mine. Two different view points on responsible pet care.

let me first say that I did not say that I condoned refusing care for a dying animal. I read the story and she could have told us full truth or partial truth, who knows. She said she tried to get the animal help and that the only vet in her area would not help because she had no money so she took her little girl home and was doing all she could for her on her own. I have been known to do everything possible for dying animals, including ones that don't belong to me so of course I wouldn't condone that.

Here's what I did say...I don't know the situation, I am not in her shoes and therefor I will not judge her. For all I know she was alone with her dog and she was scared and needed someone to talk to to get her through it. Who knows, I don't.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by myteddybear

let me first say that I did not say that I condoned refusing care for a dying animal. I read the story and she could have told us full truth or partial truth, who knows. She said she tried to get the animal help and that the only vet in her area would not help because she had no money so she took her little girl home and was doing all she could for her on her own. I have been known to do everything possible for dying animals, including ones that don't belong to me so of course I wouldn't condone that.

Here's what I did say...I don't know the situation, I am not in her shoes and therefor I will not judge her. For all I know she was alone with her dog and she was scared and needed someone to talk to to get her through it. Who knows, I don't.

I STILL do not even know what the story was. I have NO idea what you are talking about!! I keep saying that but no one seems to catch that.
I gave a hypothetical that yes, was created because of something the OP said.....but it was not based on a specific thread.
Post the thread.
Oh...n/m...I am finished with this one anyway. It is not going anywhere.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure

Isn't that just the best lil' PT Mascot?

I also agree with others...I think it's time to say, point (well) taken & now let's just raise out glasses to another thread that we should say adieu to...Happy New Year!

Amen.

*POOF* I am gone.

[myteddybear]

I agree, it's not going anywhere.

No point in posting the thread because it isn't about her in the first place, I am just trying to get the point accross that passing judgement on posters who's shoes you have not walked in is pointless. It doesn't help the animal and only serves to hurt. We all wanted her to come back (again, not about her, she is just the example here.) and update on her other animal's health but she never did and probably because of all the negativity that was posted on the thread. Now we will never know if they were ok.

I apologize to anyone I may have offended by posting my opinion, it isn't something I usually do. But as you all have said before, it is something I am passionate about. The negativity does not help the animals involed. I was just hoping to convey that but I see now it is pointless.

Ok, back to my corner

[jrsygal37]

and anyone?

[lulumom]

1. if anyone has found any posting by me to be insulting, i apologize. i have never intended to offend anyone. i stated the facts about the quotations just as someone here might state a fact about a yorkie. i was not judging and do not see that in my post.

2. i stated i have learned a lot on this thread, and also by the fact that it was moved to off-topic. it seems that some assume this to be a negative. it wasn't and isn't.

3. i do not capitalize by choice. e.e. cummings didn't either.

4. i can't recall all of the other remarks sent in my direction and honestly, am disheartened by this last bit of activity.

5. i am more convinced than ever that the woman i spoke of earlier deserves an apology because at this point, i feel sufficiently beaten down and i neither started this thread nor argued with anyone. further, i have a pretty thick skin.

6. i'm going to bed, and will think and pray as to whether or not this is a thread i need to revisit again, or even a forum i need to be part of. i believe in building, not tearing down. i believe kindness is always the best route to take. i believe no one knows so much they can't stand to learn more. these are the ideas i have shared here and ones i do my best to practice in life. the notion that such beliefs have garnered so much defensiveness and resentment saddens me and, to be honest, makes me long for the lurking days.

goodnight.

[miabellaamoure]

Just for the record...I don't want anyone to think my lil' Pot Stirring pic was directed at anyone who's posted within this thread...I love you all and appreciate everything that has been said...even tho' it seems to be time for some dessert , beverages & one big kum-by-ya moment!

YouTube - Benedictine Nuns sing Kum bay ya

[myteddybear]

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by jp4m2

Wow, thirteen pages......It looks like this thread has run it's course and is no longer serving any useful purpose.....Ann where are you???......

LOL...that insinuates that there was a point in time during its course when it was actually serving a useful purpose.

[jp4m2]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

LOL...that insinuates that there was a point in time during its course when it was actually serving a useful purpose.

Touche'.....

[Wylie's Mom]

Well, glad to see this thread is ending w/ laughs, desserts, raised glasses, and good cheer, and even a KUM BAY YA!

Thanks all for participating in a very enlightening discussion!

{ and to once more clear up the ongoing confusion, this discussion DOES BELONG IN THE OFF TOPIC SECTION - if further clarification is needed about that, feel free to PM me }