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Old 08-12-2008, 12:55 PM   #541
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OMG...I wish this thread, which has been very supportive...had to take a turn in this direction. Normally I do not get into a controversy of this kind, but I keep seeing it here on YT. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but unless asked, sometimes it's best kept to yourself. Especially when you know it's going to be very hurtful. To me it would be like telling someone they are fat or ugly...you know it's going to hurt their feelings. Some things are better kept to yourself.
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:56 PM   #542
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Just BUMP this up, pleeeeeese.
OK EVERYBODY... DENA HAS TO SAVE HER ENERGY FOR EMMA. Please can we just ignore this person's comments and move on for Emma's sake.

Just nobody respond to her and just let it be.

NO MORE NEGATIVE TALK!!

Let her comments go and just feel sorry for her that this is the way she views the outcome for Emma.
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OK EVERYBODY... DENA HAS TO SAVE HER ENERGY FOR EMMA. Please can we just ignore this person's comments and move on for Emma's sake.

Just nobody respond to her and just let it be.

NO MORE NEGATIVE TALK!!

Let her comments go and just feel sorry for her that this is the way she views the outcome for Emma.
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Aaaaah. This is so sad, these opinions on giving up.

Of course this baby is in pain. But later on in it's little life, it will not remember the pain. To give up is not an option, in my opinion.

I have been reading this thread from the very beginning. Just the fact that it happened is painful to me, but I keep reading and pray that it will all be over, that the baby will heal quickly. I know that even when she does, the problems will not be over. They will just be different problems.

My daughter was born with a cleft lip and palate. She has had very many surgeries in her lifetime and she is now forty years old. She recently had another surgery on her ear because this birth defect causes this kind of problems. She anticipates another surgery on her other ear.

I do have memories of many different times it was extremely difficult for her and quite painful.

I have three grandchildren. Each time one of them was due, I was always stressed because I worried that they might have the same problem. There was always a fifty/fifty chance of it, they said. However, each one was fine. It wasn't only 'them' that I worried for. It was her, as well. I knew what she would need to be able to endure if one of her children had this defect.

I am cheering for Emma. I am praying that she will make it through all of this and go on to have her life. I will not give up on her or on the effort that is being expended in her behalf. My God is a God of miracles. I pray for this for Emma.

One blessed thing is that Emma will never have to endure the callousness of humans that persecute the 'differentness' of her from other pups. She will never have to even know that she is 'different', because she will never have the comprehension of the differentness. Only that she is loved. I will say that for my daughter, this was by far the most difficult to cope with. Things that just 'popped out' of peoples mouths without proper regard of feelings.

So, Dena....you just keep doing your best. This time will pass and you will always know that you did do your best, whatever the outcome. Yours is only to continue the effort on Emma's behalf. This is not an 'old' dog who has lived a full life, but a brand new life that is deserving of life. If it is God's will, it will be so.
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Dena, I'd do the same as you. I'd also be as hurt as you. I'd still keep going for Baby Emma just as you are. The lack of sleep alone is enough to make you more emotional. You go girl! I wish I lived closer, I'd help you and let you get some much needed rest.
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For what reason??? So you can encourage MORE critical responses??

I am so done with this..................

No. You are not done with this.

Adversity is around every corner. I know you will continue to do what you need to do.

There are 545 posts on here. The majority of them are supportive and encouraging. Concentrate on them. Find the ones that touched you the most and print them out. Read them whenever you need encouragement. Just do not give in to feelings of frustration and do not let anything alter you from the determination you have felt all along.

In these types of situations you just have to have 'dogged' () determination and get on with getting on.

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No. You are not done with this.

Adversity is around every corner. I know you will continue to do what you need to do.

There are 545 posts on here. The majority of them are supportive and encouraging. Concentrate on them. Find the ones that touched you the most and print them out. Read them whenever you need encouragement. Just do not give in to feelings of frustration and do not let anything alter you from the determination you have felt all along.

In these types of situations you just have to have 'dogged' () determination and get on with getting on.

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For what reason??? So you can encourage MORE critical responses??

I am so done with this..................
Dena I know how hard it is but try to ignore the negative posts. If you don't acknowledge them and nobody else does they will probably stop. Most everyone here thinks what you are doing for that baby girl is amazing and are behind you 100%. You are doing something selfless and wonderful! Don't let the negativity get in the way.
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Dena, dont u listen to any negative things. Just keep doing wat u r doing!!! This is a very kind thing u r doing. Don't give up, cuz we are not.
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Dena, I am so sorry that i missed so much in the last couple of hours...I hadn't a clue this was going on when I speak with you on the live feed...now i know why you were so fustrated.

you don't need us to tell you that those negative comments are only believed by that one person....you can clearly see, read and feeling all the positive support and energy coming from everyone else. We are all (well except one) here to support both you and Emma.

I can't speak for everyone else but I know that there isn't a moment in my day that goes by that i'm not thinking of the two of you....almost every conversation i have is about this amazing woman doing the most amazing and noble things for this stronger, sweet, precious little baby girl named Emma.

focus on our POSITIVE support and love (there's plenty of it going around you definitely don't have to look far)

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When the road you're trudging seems all up hill,
When the funds are low, and the debts are high,
And you want to smile, but you have to sigh,
When care is pressing you down a bit,
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[quote=sammiz;2177405]Aaaaah. This is so sad, these opinions on giving up.

Of course this baby is in pain. But later on in it's little life, it will not remember the pain. To give up is not an option, in my opinion.

I have been reading this thread from the very beginning. Just the fact that it happened is painful to me, but I keep reading and pray that it will all be over, that the baby will heal quickly. I know that even when she does, the problems will not be over. They will just be different problems.

My daughter was born with a cleft lip and palate. She has had very many surgeries in her lifetime and she is now forty years old. She recently had another surgery on her ear because this birth defect causes this kind of problems. She anticipates another surgery on her other ear.

I do have memories of many different times it was extremely difficult for her and quite painful.

I have three grandchildren. Each time one of them was due, I was always stressed because I worried that they might have the same problem. There was always a fifty/fifty chance of it, they said. However, each one was fine. It wasn't only 'them' that I worried for. It was her, as well. I knew what she would need to be able to endure if one of her children had this defect.

I am cheering for Emma. I am praying that she will make it through all of this and go on to have her life. I will not give up on her or on the effort that is being expended in her behalf. My God is a God of miracles. I pray for this for Emma.

One blessed thing is that Emma will never have to endure the callousness of humans that persecute the 'differentness' of her from other pups. She will never have to even know that she is 'different', because she will never have the comprehension of the differentness. Only that she is loved. I will say that for my daughter, this was by far the most difficult to cope with. Things that just 'popped out' of peoples mouths without proper regard of feelings.

So, Dena....you just keep doing your best. This time will pass and you will always know that you did do your best, whatever the outcome. Yours is only to continue the effort on Emma's behalf. This is not an 'old' dog who has lived a full life, but a brand new life that is deserving of life. If it is God's will, it will be so.

there is a very important line in this post;


to give up is not an option!!


it says all !!

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The pictures of this baby are heartbreaking. I can't imagine what she and you are going through.

I can't catch up on 37 pages worth of info, but: have you consulted w/ a veterinary hospital? (I'm sure you have) What is she being given for pain control? Have you asked a vet to consult with a plastic surgeon who does facial reconstruction?

As you go through this process, if it were me - I'd always be asking myself - on a scale of 1-10, what is the quality of life this little baby seems to be experiencing? I do truly hope you can save her - but please remember that her quality of life is at your mercy, at this point. I know how badly you want to save her, and right now - I want that for you too. I hope it can be done. Also - did you see the STICKY in the Emergency forum for help w/ vet bills?

My heart goes out to her.
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Boy it'd be so easy to just let my fingers go wild on the keyboard here, but ya know what, my fight is for Baby Emma and I stand beside Dena and support her and Baby Emma 110% I won't even waste my time nor energy on negativity here. God bless you Baby Emma and Dena, you keep hanging in there, together and with Gods hand guiding you, she can do this!
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