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Old 08-13-2008, 04:38 PM   #691
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Nasal passages connect at the back...while she may not physically have but one...it's connected with the opposite side at the back. The sole reason for tube feeding is so puppy does not aspirate the milk into it's lungs. That is why cleft puppies can not feed...

She's already said...she will not take her back to her vet's.
She said that she would not take her back to the one that did the surgery and that her regular vet was out of town. I'm am sure if Emma takes a turn for the worse she will get help, but meanwhile she is fine and she is gaining so why keep taking her to the vets office where she is exposed to any number of illnesses. the best place for her at this time, is at home.
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Agreed a wealth of information! I have read all 46 pages and have learned so much! I am so thankful this thread is open and I've been glued to it for a week!!
Me too
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Well it seems she needs to be doing it right away!!! This baby went through 3 surgeries without anesethia. Has a gaping hole in its mouth and a closed nasal cavity

But she is getting fed and gaining weight and seems to sleep comfortably, so what is the urgency? What would a vet tell her to do that she is not already doing?
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I think she is doing an amazing job i am so impressed with everything she is doing. I wish people would stop being negative and sit back and look at the amazing care this little girl is getting.
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I see no reason why this thread should be closed. Dena may not have experience with a puppy with cleft palate but she is doing everything within her power to help this pup and keep it as comfortable as possible. It is no different for a parent with a skinbaby with birth defects. You meet with numerous doctors so you can make an informed decision and go from there. You are suddenly thrust into the role of "nurse" and you have to learn as you go and do the best job you can. This pup has been to the vet several times and I'm sure is will have good follow-up care. No different than surgery on human...as time goes by the doctor visits become further apart...unless of course there are complications. I'm am sure Dena has been well instructed by her vet as to what those could be and what to look for.

Emma was not anesthetized because of her size BUT...she was given local anesthesia. She is being tube fed, which bypasses her cleft palate and lungs, directly into her stomach. After each feeding Dena taps her lungs to help with the prevention of pneumonia. I hope some of this information puts come of your concerns at ease. None of us are walking in Dena's shoes. She has had to make decisions based on the medical information she has received and non of us were in attendance to know all of the facts.

Personally, I commend her for this heartwarming effort she has made to help this puppy. There are millions of people in this world with birth defects and they lead happy, satisfying lives.
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Administrating oral antibotic into the cleft is, indeed, placing fluid inside the very cavity she is trying to prevent fluid from entering. Preventing fluid from going into the cleft is the sole reason for tube feeding.

No doctor or vet is gives you a prescription for an oral antibotic with instructions to pour into the wound. It is taken orally.

Once all the sutures came out...I think a professional should have been consulted on the best method to handle the care and healing.

I would like to see this animal get evaluated and followed by a professional and that is not being done.
She is obviously doing a wonderful job, and has Emma's best interest at heart. It is easy for all of us to give opinions and tell what we would "like to see" done, but in the end, it is not our decision. All we can do is send our positive thoughts and prayers out to Dena and Emma!
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Personally, I commend her for this heartwarming effort she has made to help this puppy. There are millions of people in this world with birth defects and they lead happy, satisfying lives.
I so agree
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Well...back to why most of us are here...I'm anxious for an update on "our little Emma" and miss seeing her on the live feed. Hope Dena gets home soon and gives us an update.
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Well...back to why most of us are here...I'm anxious for an update on "our little Emma" and miss seeing her on the live feed. Hope Dena gets home soon and gives us an update.
Me, too!! I always panic when I see she isn't broadcasting....worrywart!
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Denna, I have only read up to page 44 and watched the my space movie. Your awesome. You are trully an angel. My prayers will definately include you and emma.
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Prayers to Little Emma and Dena from Mia and I... I think you are doing a wonderful job and you have made the right decissions at the time you were making them. You were doing what you needed to do. I commend you for the love and care that you have given "our" little Emma and I thank you personally for letting us watch her on your cam. She has become all of ours and we all love her very much. I had to go back to school this week, but I watch her from my desk as much as I can. Everyday when I log on and I see her growing and thriving, makes me happy... She is so lucky to have you and If I ever get sick, you could definitely be my nurse... don't think You'd want to move to Missouri, but I'd love for you to care for me, like you have cared for Emma. Good luck in the days to come and If you need anything , let me know...God be with you and Emma!!!!!!!
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To be honest..it would be nice if Dena would reply to the questions that have been posed and not have people speak for her.

The dog has been since twice by the vet...once before surgery and the day of surgery. I do understand while I would seek professional follow up care obviously not everyone agrees.

Seems odd in the sick forum...if someone mentions diarrhea...the advice they are given is go to the vet's. This certainly seems a more serious condition.
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Yes Breny took excellent care of her dog. The difference here is...Breny's dog did not require surgery as a medical intervention for her cleft.
Thank you I tried my best with Tia. BUT I chose NOT to have surgery. Her vet wanted to repair her...I chose not to because I was scared of losing her to something that was working as is. Kinda like if its not broke - why fix it, type thing.

Tia still has her cleft and we still have struggles. We had an episode tonight as a matter of fact, scared the poop out of me..but she is fine now.
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My understanding is that Dena was told if the last stitches didn't hold there was nothing they could do. Now that was not her personal vet but the one that replaced the stitches. Dena is using a topical antibiotic on the wound, there is nothing going down into Emma's throat/palate whatever you want to call it. Emma is healing very well and has already scabbed over. She is gaining weight every day and is moving around like crazy and loving to cuddle with her snuggle puppy. She is in no pain or Dena would be doing something about it. Emma will have to heal and have surgery when she is a little older. For now she seems to be just fine with the tube feeding and is being loved to death by Dena and many of us here on YT and all over the world.

For Dena's sake it wouldn't bother me any if this thread was closed because she can update us who care elsewhere. She doesn't need to read all these ridiculous accusations. As far as I'm concerned she is doing an amazing job and being extremely selfless in caring for Emma.

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