May God bless you and Baby Emma tremendously for both of your efforts. You are truly and Earth Angel. Please grow and thrive Baby Emma.

Dena, If you have to continue with the tubing, she will stop fighting it after a few times. She will learn to associate the tube with a comfy full tummy. I also worried about putting the tube in wrong. If you get it in and give her a split second to catch a breath, you will know you have it in correctly. She won't be able to breathe if you have it in wrong. But you will know immediately, so don't let that frighten you. Make sure when you pull it out that you do so in one swift motion. That way it doesn't trigger her gag reflex and induce vomiting. It is much worse for her to aspirate vomit than the formula . It helped for me to have an extra pair of hands until I really learned how to do it. There is too much for one person to do it effectively when you are just learning. (holding Emma, the tube from sliding out, and the syringe is hard enough, but somehow you have to function the plunger, too.) It will get easier with practice.
The other option my vet gave me was a pick line into Z's stomach from the side. It is kind of like a port you hook a syringe into for feeding. He wasn't big on the idea, because it was a risk for infection, but you have a different situation. Emma has open wounds in her mouth, and is already at risk for infection.
Just a thought.

My prayers and blessings go out to Dena and baby Emma. I know you both must be exhausted. I know Dena won't give up and Emma is such a fighter.
Together they make a great team!! Hang in there you two. The outcome will be so worth it! I hope my donation to the Emma Fund can be of some use. Here's to a speedy recovery Lil Emma.

Wow, Dena! I have to commend you for all the research you have done. I could have used all the help you are getting here, but didn't know to reach out for it until he was past the crisis. The people on YT are so helpful, innovative and loving. This is a great support. To all y'all on this forum, I can't say how great it is to see you pulling for Emma and Dena in the tough hours.
And Dena, as much as we love the updates, don't forget to get some sleep in when you can, sweetie.
Love the sign in the crib, too.

Dena,
I just wanted to thank our for trying to save this tiny baby, and let you know I'm sending prayers your way. And to also encourage you on the tube feeding. I've had to tube feed dozens of puppies and wildlife babies in my years of rehabbing animals, and I've never lost a baby. So, even though it's frightening in the beginning, it does get much easier each time you do it. I find it safer and easier in many instances than bottle feeding. Just dip the end of the tube down into the formula to wet it, and gently move it down her throat. As long as you have measured her body correctly and pass it to the bottom of her last rib, I can't see how you would aspirate her.

I also wanted to let you know about Catac nipples in case you haven't heard of them. These are what I always use on baby squirrels and they would probably be a better fit for little Emma's mouth than the nipples you are using. You might call around and see if you can find them locally. If not, they are available through KV Vet Supply and you could probably get them overnighted to you. I also recommend using 3cc O-ring syringes, as they work so much better than the plunger type syringes with the rubber on the plunger, which wear out too fast.

If I can help you in any way, please PM me.

Your avatar should say Mamma2BabyNatalieAND2BabyEmma

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Prob not, you'd have to add all your skin kids too! Just trying to make it accurate. Just kidding:P
I wanted to ask if there is anything other than receiving blankets you might need for baby Emma?

Phew!!!!! You would need a LOT more room for your avatar!!!:D How about "EarthAngel2BabyEmma". I just love you for what you are doing:)

I really hope she makes it through this. It is really heartbreaking reading about all her surgeries and the stitches coming out. I can't believe that doctor was so uncaring today. I hope she heals up this time and the stitches dont come out. I never pray, im agnostic, but i'm praying for baby emma.

Cheers to you and Emma
 

I hope Emma lives a long full life of enjoyment in your lap.

I want to tell you my experiences with Bombo, a cleft palate puppy. This might give you more hope, as well as awareness of issues down the line


The vets who've seen Bombo have all expressed surprise that he is alive. He has a severe cleft palate. He's now 9 months and doing great. He is going to UC Davis Veterinary School on August 18 to have surgery to correct his cleft palate. This will be done by two oral surgeons with a gaggle of students looking on. We waited until his jaw had matured. With earlier surgeries there is risk that as the oral cavity grew, it would rip apart the newly repaired area.

Some basics of how I kept Bombo alive:

1. He was tube-fed colostrum for the first three weeks.
2. He transitioned to kitten kibble, which are around the size of tiny pellets. He swallowed those whole.
3. He gets water from a lixit bottle. On the road, he drinks from a dropper, syringe, or water bottle with a spout. The idea is to have his head tilted back as he drinks to avoid having it go into his nasal areas.
4. He is on hard kibble only. No pastes like Nutrical, no soft food, no thick liquids. Water only.
5. He takes antibiotics prophylactically. Before doing that, he had 4 or 5 sinus infections and one low-grade pneumonia episode. We compound azithromax into 7 mg beef tab. I coat that with a little olive oil and slip it down at the back of his throat. With green discharge, we add clavamox twice a day.
6. I suction when he has discharge in his nose, using a baby bulb syringe. In prior days, I had to suction several times a day and also at night. He could not eat when he was congested. These days, he's doing so well, he does not need suctioning.
7. Be on the lookout for hypoglycemia. In my guy, it started with shivering and then led to incoordination and falling over. I drop whole kibble down his throat to get him going again.

I hope these tips might be of help to you and Emma.

Good luck.
Amy

Wow Amy! Sounds like you have done such an outstanding job and have learned so much. How kind of you to share all of your knowledge which had to have been full of trial and error. I am so glad to hear that your puppy is doing so well now. Sounds like there is no way he would have survived without you. You have done a truly awesome job and I bet he rewards you every day with TONS of love and faithfullness:luvu:

Good morning Dena and Little Emma. I hope you both got some much needed rest. Still sending prayers and will go on a blankie and sheet search at lunch.
Have a good day and keep up the good work.

I hope you both feel better soon!

Good morning Punkin Butt and Dena, hoping last night was a better night and the both of you got some rest. I'm looking forward to a good update this AM and hoping the stitches stayed in and the tube feedings went well. Many, many prayers still going up for the both of you.

HUGE hugs to both of you :love:

She's so thankful that there's people out there like you! You are an angel sent from heaven.;)

I'm checking on Baby Emma this morning also. Hope you both had a better night and that today brings progress.

Good morning Dena and Emma...how are you two angels doing this morning????

I hope the both of you got some rest last nite.

Emma, I missed you still morning...i've gotten used to seeing first thing and you were there this morning.

I hope all is well...I cant wait for an update

The snuggle was shipped from Colorado on Friday. I am hoping you get it tomorrow or Wed. Poor baby Emma, you hang in there Dena.

I've got to get caught up on all the news about Emma, but I see that she's had surgery and I watched her for a bit on the live feed.
What an absolute angel.

I will be praying for her :hands:

Lots of love and prayers,
Tammy, Abby and Daisy

How do I go about watching the live feed? I keep seeing people have been watching her, & I've been wanting to check in on her too, but not sure how. Can someone fill me in please?

here's the link: Mom2BabyNatalie - Mom2BabyNatalie Live - blogTV

I feel so bad for her, for all she's been through - and yet so "hopeful" that all will end up fine. You're doing such a great job, Dena. Count me in as an "EmmaFan"! :)

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You are trying soo hard, praying all turns out well for you both.