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Old 01-24-2008, 04:36 PM   #1
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In children, not adults. What would you like to know?
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In children. Sorry I should have elaberated more.. I'm wondering of the treatments and how you diagnose one. I had a mediator that has never spoken to my son just his school and has said my son needs to be put on Ridalin. Yet she doesnt understand the reason my son has focus and temperment issues in school is because his fathers way of babysitting is buying video games. My son has a Nintendo Ds with 20+ games, Nintendo game cube with i don't know how many games, a new Wii with 21 games. Plus his dads play station 2 & 3.. Everytime I talk to my son he's playing a game.. Nights, weekends, mornings anytime he's playing a game.. Of course he's going to have focus issues hello school is slow and uninteresting soon as he's home bamm on a game again.. Sorry i vented.. So I'm trying to figure out the pro's and con's to what she's stated my son needs though she's never seen or talked to him.
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I actually have one of each.
My ADHD is VERY VERY hyper active, you have to tell him OVER & OVER to do something and alot of times physically take him to do it and of course a list of other things as well..... My ADHD takes Concerta and has since Kindergarten, he is now in 6th grade. BEST devridion we could have ever made for him. He is able to be calm & concentrate on class, teacher and finish work... makes good grades. You can DEFINATELY tell when he hasnt had his pill or it has worn off. AAAHHH... I will say that way back when they started him on meds they tried him on the Ritalin... it only lasted about 4 hrs and my son was an emotional wreck... the concerta has never been like that.

MyADD... he is very day dreamy, figity.... He is also on Concreta but it works opposite on him. Makes him pay atention longer. He has been on meds since 4th gade, I think and he is now in 7th.

Your doctor would be the one to determine if your son has one or the other. There are forms that teachers & parents have to fill out in order for the doctor to make the diagnosis.... the answers will help make the diagnosis or lack there of...

I wish you luck with it....
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Only a doctor can prescribe medication and there are a lot of options besides Ritalin. There are also ways to manage it without medication. Some food allergies can cause similar symptoms. But the thing that worries me from your description is that childhood depression can also mimic ADD, so he really needs to be evaluated by a doctor who is familiar with ADD or ADHD, not just a family practitioner. My son saw a pediatric psychiatrist for the initial diagnosis, and was then transferred to a local psychologist for followup.

It wouldn't hurt to have him checked out, but I don't know how this "mediator" can prescribe Ritalin. That's not a good idea at all. Ritalin has some potentially serious side effects and there are MUCH better medications on the market now.
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I have the ADHHHHD child. My DS has been on meds for a little over a year. The difference is amazing. The funny thing is with him is that he can play computer games all day unmedicated but can't focus on schoolwork. In K he would spin in his chair crawl under the table get on top of the table. He has been on Concerta for about 6 mths and has almost straight a's(did not do well at all before meds).

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I also wouldn't keep the school involved. Have testing done without the school helping. Have your Dr. recommend someone. Sometimes, when schools get involved they have a tendency to "label" a child.

My son had ADD and was also on Concerta. D's and F's became A's, B's and few C's. He was able to stay focused more. Believe it or not, when we went to a specialist for ADD/ADHD the Dr. told us that one 'symptom' was that the sock had to be pulled very tight before a shoe would be put on. My son had done that and it annoyed him so much if it wasn't done right. It really blew me away to know that can be a symptom. Another test that was given: he was to copy (draw) a simple square, or another simple line and my son couldn't do it. It would be real sloppy. By the time it went from his brain to his hand it was garbled.

He's 17 now, diagnosed in 4th grade. Sure wish I had had him tested earlier. Now he's doing great and no more Concerta. Some can outgrow it, some don't.
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Out of my four boy's, I have one son with ADHD and one with ADD. It is a big difference with the 2, my son with ADHD has the combined type and is more hard to get focused , he is also on a higher dosage of medication then the one that is ADD. They were diagnosed by a DOCTOR, on my asking if it might be possible that they had a problem.They had them seen by a team at the Cleveland Clinic and they were very thoro with the testings . School can not diagnose, just suggest that their might be a problen. Though my sister said that while going to school to be a teacher she spent time on ADD/ADHD and the signs that one has a problem and way's to suggest it to a parent. Also Rittalin is not a cure all for children! Their are other medications out their. My one son was started off on Rittalin and it turned him into the Zombie, after a month trial we had him off of it and put onto a different medication that was timed released., He is still active and all that but we can get him focused on tasks at hand.

www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/symptom.htm and
www.webmd.com/add-adhd/default.htm have information that might be helpful. Also Chadd.org is great for add/adhd information.
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As a teacher who has had many children with ADD and ADHD, I can attest to the benefits of medicine for children with these disorders as well as benefits for every other child in the classroom (and the teacher) but I certainly hope that the mediator did not suggest Ritalin as a first option--that would just be poor practice. I feel there are alternatives that can and should be tried at school before medicating a child such as scheduled movement breaks, step-by-step directions and behavior plans. All that said, I know that hearing your child is having difficulty may put parents on the defensive but it's important to remember that everyone just wants what's best for the child. Information from school is definitely a large and helpful factor when diagnosing a child and shouldn't be disregarded BUT it shouldn't be the only thing considered. Good luck with everything and sorry for the book!
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When I was 5 I was diagnosed ADHD, now as an adult I am ADD. I had many years at the University of Michigan do non-profit research on me as a child (like putting me in a room with toys with mirrored walls, written tests, eye tests, etc) I have been on many different types of medications and did struggle out though my childhood with being able to sit still, pay attention, and constantly talking. I feel before people just say (none of you, just in general) he would need to be tested and evaluated. Placing a child on any medication for ADD or ADHD can really change there personality and almost make them like a walking zombie. It takes time and trial and error to really find the right dose. A lot of the different meds I was put on would almost make me feel like I wasn't in my own body, as if like I said I was a walking zombie, and others well have other side effects that always need to be looked at too. Its so easy for people just say "oh he is ADHD, give him meds" I really think as someone else stated there are many different alternatives before giving them meds. Now as an adult I can control myself and learned how to deal with it, but I believe that comes with maturity. I think you have a wonderful point in saying yes he is interested in videos games and he focuses in on those. As he might not be challenged enough in school or interested. Does he act out, act rambunctious, almost to a point that you don't have control? Or is he more the dreamy, lost in la la land type (like me lol) Wow I wrote a lot, I guess to put it simply see a specialist, or maybe even two. Do research and educate yourself on the whole subject so you as the mother can do your own observations and see what you think. I hope this helps...I kinda rambled a bit...
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So many of your posts sound just like my boys. Yes... medication makes a total difference... night & day for my ADHD with it... he is a snuggle bug who is soooo enoyable to be around... WITHOUT IT... OH MY LORD, give ME some medication. He is wound sooooo tight that he bounces off the walls, laughs when getting in trouble, talks back BADDDDD.... and so on & so on.

As I stated in my first post and others have as well... definately a Dr must diagnose. We were fortunate to already be a patient of the ADD/ADHD that we were refered to. Our pediatrician in one of the best in our area. Matter of a fact... Every Thursady is ADD/ADHD patients only. New & follow ups. We have to go every year for a 1 hour or so check up and get new cap "review" forms filled out every year as well, usually afte the 1st nine weeks of school. Their teachers do not know they take meds until the first set of cap forms come along so they are not able to be "labeled." However... sometimes teachers need to understand how it works... it is harder for an ADD/ADHD student to do as much work as others and be successful. So, teachers can help the situation & only give odd or even problems to do and grade off that, or the top 1/2 or bottom 1/2 of a worksheet & grade off that. ADD/ADHD kids can/will get VERY overwhelmed having long worksheets or tests in front of them and can only handle a certain amount... most likely failing the work or getting VERY sloppy and not caring.

Also... when my youngest was diagnosed... we went to our ADD/ADHD dr... she evaluated him then refered him to a pediatric physologist. She also evaluated him and verified Dr's finding. She also recommended socialization classes. He had a hard time getting/keeping friends b/c his craziness. My was a on the table, under the table, tripping & hitting the teacher kid too...

Anyways... Yes... diagnosed ONLY by correct Dr... there are other meds than Ritalin, looks like most of ours are on the same ... Concerta. We are 27 (Add) & 54(ADHD). There are also natural things you can do and they will come up with research on the internet under natural ADD/ADHD treatment
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My son is slightly ADD and his doctor prescribed Ritalin. Once on the Ritalin he made straight A's and was beyond focused but it completely changed his personality. (all this happened 1 year ago when he was 10 years old) Before Ritalin he was the happiest kid on the earth. After he started on the Ritalin he was sad and crying ALL the time. He was withdrawn!!! Never slept!!! Lost weight!!!! It was HORRIBLE....he was SOOOOOOO depressed!!!! Once we saw how depressed & sad he was we immediately took him off the Ritalin (also at the advise of his doctor). We were beyond worried about him!! We even took him to speak with a child psychologist....that is how worried we were!!!! Within a few weeks he was back to his old happy self....thank goodness!!! I HATE Ritalin and would NEVER put my child through that again!!! I had rather him fail every subject than see him go through that again. By the way, without the Ritalin he makes A's and B's (an occassional C)....I will never complain about his grades again!!!! I am just thankful to have my son back!!!

NOTE: This is only our experience with Ritalin....I am sure there are those out there that love this drug.

Only a doctor can decide if your child needs to be medicated for ADD or ADHD. But, please do your research on all the med's to treat ADD or ADHD....the side effects are very disturbing to me!!!

Again, everyone is different....I am sure there will be lots of people to post that love the med's that their children are on for ADD or ADHD.

Best of luck to you....I know you are concerned about your son!!!
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So many of your posts sound just like my boys. Yes... medication makes a total difference... night & day for my ADHD with it... he is a snuggle bug who is soooo enoyable to be around... WITHOUT IT... OH MY LORD, give ME some medication. He is wound sooooo tight that he bounces off the walls, laughs when getting in trouble, talks back BADDDDD.... and so on & so on.

As I stated in my first post and others have as well... definately a Dr must diagnose. We were fortunate to already be a patient of the ADD/ADHD that we were refered to. Our pediatrician in one of the best in our area. Matter of a fact... Every Thursady is ADD/ADHD patients only. New & follow ups. We have to go every year for a 1 hour or so check up and get new cap "review" forms filled out every year as well, usually afte the 1st nine weeks of school. Their teachers do not know they take meds until the first set of cap forms come along so they are not able to be "labeled." However... sometimes teachers need to understand how it works... it is harder for an ADD/ADHD student to do as much work as others and be successful. So, teachers can help the situation & only give odd or even problems to do and grade off that, or the top 1/2 or bottom 1/2 of a worksheet & grade off that. ADD/ADHD kids can/will get VERY overwhelmed having long worksheets or tests in front of them and can only handle a certain amount... most likely failing the work or getting VERY sloppy and not caring.

Also... when my youngest was diagnosed... we went to our ADD/ADHD dr... she evaluated him then refered him to a pediatric physologist. She also evaluated him and verified Dr's finding. She also recommended socialization classes. He had a hard time getting/keeping friends b/c his craziness. My was a on the table, under the table, tripping & hitting the teacher kid too...

Anyways... Yes... diagnosed ONLY by correct Dr... there are other meds than Ritalin, looks like most of ours are on the same ... Concerta. We are 27 (Add) & 54(ADHD). There are also natural things you can do and they will come up with research on the internet under natural ADD/ADHD treatment
I was on Concerta as an adult and I liked it!
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I actually have one of each.
My ADHD is VERY VERY hyper active, you have to tell him OVER & OVER to do something and alot of times physically take him to do it and of course a list of other things as well..... My ADHD takes Concerta and has since Kindergarten, he is now in 6th grade. BEST devridion we could have ever made for him. He is able to be calm & concentrate on class, teacher and finish work... makes good grades. You can DEFINATELY tell when he hasnt had his pill or it has worn off. AAAHHH... I will say that way back when they started him on meds they tried him on the Ritalin... it only lasted about 4 hrs and my son was an emotional wreck... the concerta has never been like that.

MyADD... he is very day dreamy, figity.... He is also on Concreta but it works opposite on him. Makes him pay atention longer. He has been on meds since 4th gade, I think and he is now in 7th.

Your doctor would be the one to determine if your son has one or the other. There are forms that teachers & parents have to fill out in order for the doctor to make the diagnosis.... the answers will help make the diagnosis or lack there of...

I wish you luck with it....
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Mine take Metadate CD 10 mg and 30 mg 1 x a day. You can tell if the ADHD child missed his pill for sure, he is very hyper. My boy's are in 6th and 5th grade and ADHD child has been on meds when he was 4, he tried to walk out his window when given a time out so I brought up to his doctor how he is unfocussed and very hard to discipline so we got him tested, they at first thought it was Autism till he was tested. The ADD child was found to have it in 2nd grade. He is also a Gifted child so it was hard getting it looked at from the teachers. They just thought he was spacey some times.
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