Response from AKC concerning coat Colors - Page 3 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

diggy4 · 09-17-2007, 05:46 PM

Can someone post a pic of what the acceptable color for the show ring is I wanna see these colors. Just out of curiosity.

wemple2 · 09-17-2007, 05:47 PM

Thanks for the answers guys...Winston is 3 years old, I doubt if his color will change now, right?

Brooklynn · 09-17-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by diggy4

Can someone post a pic of what the acceptable color for the show ring is I wanna see these colors. Just out of curiosity.

You will find someone with a different interputation of what the correct color will be LOL....if you see my avator that is what i'd call an acceptable color except his gold in my opinion as a show breeder is lighter than what it should be but the color is accepted. His blue is what I'd call a medium blue could be a little darker to be closer to the standard but is again acceptable. He's not black and he's not silver.
I hope that helps.
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Brooklynn · 09-17-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wemple2

Thanks for the answers guys...Winston is 3 years old, I doubt if his color will change now, right?

He will stay black and tan but again that's ok he's a pet and you love him and that is all that matters. I have a black and tan bitch and love her with all my heart just like all my others and just as much as my show dogs

All are loved and pets before show dogs

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

diggy4 · 09-17-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooklynn

You will find someone with a different interputation of what the correct color will be LOL....if you see my avator that is what i'd call an acceptable color except his gold in my opinion as a show breeder is lighter than what it should be but the color is accepted. His blue is what I'd call a medium blue could be a little darker to be closer to the standard but is again acceptable. He's not black and he's not silver.
I hope that helps.
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Yes, it does...thank you for explaining.

Okay Now Bella is spayed and I only ask this out of curiosity so I know what I'm looking at...this is my Bella if you dont mind...could tell me her proper coloring name?? I get asked all the time and would like to give an educated answer.

diggy4 · 09-17-2007, 06:05 PM

Oh and she was 2 years old June 6th.

Is this her forever coat or will it continue changing?

BamaFan121s · 09-17-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

The reason I say that is because all the show people are saying that the only dogs that can be shown are the blue/gold ones and I have read that also. BUT, this new puppy application I have shows the FOUR different combinations of colors that they DO accept for sure. I know I can not show a black and gold dog in the ring but I can register a black and gold or black and tan dog.

OK, OK...I get what you are saying now. Not what I thought you were implying, which I would explain...but I think it would further confuse things...mainly me!

Brooklynn · 09-17-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by diggy4

Oh and she was 2 years old June 6th.

Is this her forever coat or will it continue changing?

She looks to have a blue coat. Looks to me to be a nice coat! Some bitches with each season can go lighter as my bitch did some will hold their color. So at 2 she'll probably stay a nice dark steel blue for now anyway LOL...again just depends on if it changes with her heat cycles. A black bitch usually will always stay black.
Hope that helped
Donna

diggy4 · 09-17-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooklynn

She looks to have a blue coat. Looks to me to be a nice coat! Some bitches with each season can go lighter as my bitch did some will hold their color. So at 2 she'll probably stay a nice dark steel blue for now anyway LOL...again just depends on if it changes with her heat cycles. A black bitch usually will always stay black.
Hope that helped
Donna

THANK YOU!!!
Okay so she doesnt have heat cycles so she probably will not lighten, she looks blue which is good, and her face is tan?

I think I am starting to get this...lol I think AKC is confusing me on whats acceptable

I did not realize coloring was an interpretation either I was thinking maybe a color chart?? lol something even I could understand....I guess I will have to start reading up. thank you for your responses!!!

Brooklynn · 09-17-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by diggy4

THANK YOU!!!
Okay so she doesnt have heat cycles so she probably will not lighten, she looks blue which is good, and her face is tan?

I think I am starting to get this...lol I think AKC is confusing me on whats acceptable

I did not realize coloring was an interpretation either I was thinking maybe a color chart?? lol something even I could understand....I guess I will have to start reading up. thank you for your responses!!!

Your girl looks to be blue and gold (tan) to me from what I can see in the pictures. She should stay the same color if she's spayed. I have old eyes and the pictures are small but from what I see I see blue and gold. What AKC says is acceptable is different than what the YTCA would consider acceptable....it's all in the eye of the beholder. If you were to bring a black bitch into the ring to me that wouldn't be acceptable to me because the YTCA standard doesn't say black it says a dark steel blue in adults that is because puppies are black and tan. But again, there is interpetation as to what one sees in my opinion. I try to the best of my knowledge to help those understand what I think is correct but I'm not always right and it's what I believe to be correct but I am open to be corrected if I am wrong

Donna

yorkiekist · 09-17-2007, 06:45 PM

So, basically, its like the German Shepard, Whites cant be shown in AKC conformation, but can still be registered. Maybe its because the whites are not usually a good enough representation of the breed to show.?? Just like the designeer color yorkies arent either.(I have yet to see one that is) Maybe thats because the died in the wool dedicated to the standard,Yorkie breeders have been trying to not breed them. Its still and AkC and YTCA standard color fault, and like any other fault, should not be bred. Lynn

Brooklynn · 09-17-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiekist

So, basically, its like the German Shepard, Whites cant be shown in AKC conformation, but can still be registered. Maybe its because the whites are not usually a good enough representation of the breed to show.?? Just like the designeer color yorkies arent either.(I have yet to see one that is) Maybe thats because the died in the wool dedicated to the standard,Yorkie breeders have been trying to not breed them. Its still and AkC and YTCA standard color fault, and like any other fault, should not be bred. Lynn

From a show exhibitor and breeder's point of view you should only breed to better the breed and breed as close to the standard set forth by the YTCA. Study pedigrees and know health issues and everything else to better the breed and do NOT mix with anything less acceptable. Know the standard and health issues of any breed. In my opinion if you want a dog/pet of any kind buy from a reputable breeder, do your homework and do not support those that breed for nothing less than the best! Most reputable breeders sell on a spay and neuter contract unless you are going to show and then you have a contract that will limit what you can do with their lines. Please educate yourself and be responsible! JMHO
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

yorkiekist · 09-17-2007, 07:34 PM

I forgot, thank you Texasshopper for the post. It is very informative!!! You and Brooklyn always have great info and are so knowledgable. Lynn

diggy4 · 09-18-2007, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Brooklynn

Your girl looks to be blue and gold (tan) to me from what I can see in the pictures. She should stay the same color if she's spayed. I have old eyes and the pictures are small but from what I see I see blue and gold. What AKC says is acceptable is different than what the YTCA would consider acceptable....it's all in the eye of the beholder. If you were to bring a black bitch into the ring to me that wouldn't be acceptable to me because the YTCA standard doesn't say black it says a dark steel blue in adults that is because puppies are black and tan. But again, there is interpetation as to what one sees in my opinion. I try to the best of my knowledge to help those understand what I think is correct but I'm not always right and it's what I believe to be correct but I am open to be corrected if I am wrong

Donna

If you click on the tiny picture or double click maybe....it will jump out and be a big pic.

You wont have to strain your eyes that way. And I agree Hopper, great thread I am starting to understand what colors are what! Thanks for posting

YorkieRose · 09-18-2007, 04:21 AM

I did not think they had changed the 4 acceptable colors, but did not want to argue. Color is in the eye of the beholder when it comes to steel blue...there is a show breeder here in Florida who only shows black/ gold, but if you ask that breeder they feel it is a true steel blue...others think a slivery blue is steel...so things are still the the same...

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diggy4 Bella Boo & Diggy Too! Donating GS Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Detroit Posts: 6,156 Blog Entries: 5	Can someone post a pic of what the acceptable color for the show ring is I wanna see these colors. Just out of curiosity. __________________ ALL DOGS GO TO HEAVEN

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diggy4 Bella Boo & Diggy Too! Donating GS Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Detroit Posts: 6,156 Blog Entries: 5	Oh and she was 2 years old June 6th. Is this her forever coat or will it continue changing? __________________ ALL DOGS GO TO HEAVEN

09-17-2007, 06:45 PM	#41
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	color So, basically, its like the German Shepard, Whites cant be shown in AKC conformation, but can still be registered. Maybe its because the whites are not usually a good enough representation of the breed to show.?? Just like the designeer color yorkies arent either.(I have yet to see one that is) Maybe thats because the died in the wool dedicated to the standard,Yorkie breeders have been trying to not breed them. Its still and AkC and YTCA standard color fault, and like any other fault, should not be bred. Lynn

09-17-2007, 07:34 PM	#43
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	colors I forgot, thank you Texasshopper for the post. It is very informative!!! You and Brooklyn always have great info and are so knowledgable. Lynn

09-18-2007, 04:21 AM	#45
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	color I did not think they had changed the 4 acceptable colors, but did not want to argue. Color is in the eye of the beholder when it comes to steel blue...there is a show breeder here in Florida who only shows black/ gold, but if you ask that breeder they feel it is a true steel blue...others think a slivery blue is steel...so things are still the the same...