what do you think of a chocolate yorkie?

[TinyBit]

Originally Posted by Anna Banana

They are gorgeous, but not rare, and not worth any more than any standard colored yorkie. I wouldn't buy any dog at a petstore, or support a petstore that sells them...

I agree that they should not cost more money and neither should "teacups" but most people who are looking to buy a puppy have not been told this. And sadly....most people buy from a pet store because they don't know how to or don't try to find a breeder themselves. Some go in to buy pet food for another pet in the home and fall in love. It's hard not too.
Thats why we need to inform more people on the streets about the puppy mills and pet store link.

Good luck with the puppy if you choose him. He will be different just try not to believe everything you're told at the pet store about him being worth more.

[Kbsqueff]

I think chocolate yorkies are adorable , BUT they are NOT breed STANDARD... So don't be fooled by people saying they are rare so they can price up...

Another thing... Please, DON'T BUY FROM PETSTORES!!! They support puppymills...

[Kbsqueff]

Originally Posted by diggy4

Oh I dont mean people necessarily in this thread I mean in general. And Im speaking more of Parti/Biewer issues...I just have to stay out of it as it's best. The question by the original poster was what do you think of a chocolate yorkie and I still say they are gorgeous loving babies, dont pay more, or fall for the rare bit, and don't support puppy mills.

I do feel if people are breeding to try and get a chocolate yes thats questionable.

I'll say this...I cannot look at a dog like Livi (TammyJM's) and say she is destroying the breed. I just dont see it like that. I've said enough and I get angry when I think abut certain things that have been said and PM'ed to me in here about breeding. I spent a few days crying and I won't go there again. I do not mean anything towards anyone in this thread....

I so agree w/ you!!!

I know there's a standard for a reason (keeping yorkies looking as yorkies), but since chocolate, golden, biewers etc happen to exist in a litter some times, they deserve a loving home too... And there are people who think that these "mutants" are gorgeous (ME INCLUDED!!! ), And that's OK, IMHO!!!

PS: Livi IS gorgeous!!!

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by diggy4

Oh I dont mean people necessarily in this thread I mean in general. And Im speaking more of Parti/Biewer issues...I just have to stay out of it as it's best. The question by the original poster was what do you think of a chocolate yorkie and I still say they are gorgeous loving babies, dont pay more, or fall for the rare bit, and don't support puppy mills.

I do feel if people are breeding to try and get a chocolate yes thats questionable.

I'll say this...I cannot look at a dog like Livi (TammyJM's) and say she is destroying the breed. I just dont see it like that. I've said enough and I get angry when I think abut certain things that have been said and PM'ed to me in here about breeding. I spent a few days crying and I won't go there again. I do not mean anything towards anyone in this thread....

Don't let it get to you. Those who oppose them have a right to their opinions too.

This issue comes up over and over again. I don't understand, how breeding chocolates, goldens or partis etc is going to RUIN the breed.

The traditionsal yorkies will always be there and nothing is going to RUIN them. The untraditional colored yorkies, will make their own way, just as the Yorkshire Terrier breed made it's own way.

I believe there is room for all of them. And I would consider myself a very lucky person if I had 2 of each color. Variety is the spice of life.

A rose by any other name is still a rose.

[yorkiekist]

Yep, I am opinionated when it comes to "rare" colored Yorkies being produced over and over and over again just for the $$$$$. Has anyone ever read the AKC standard for the Yorkie??? Let me know where it says chocolate and partie colors are acceptable!! If it werent for the indescriminate back yard breeders, there would be no need for the AKC standard. All breeders would be responsible enough to have "rare" color producers and the offspring spayed and neutered. All Yorkies produced would look like Yorkies, shaded tan and gun metal blue silk hair, being of prime importance. I dont think chocolate or partie was mentioned anywhere. If we didnt have an AKC standard, breeders would just breed willy, nilly and there would be no Yorkie. It took generations for breeders to get the standard where it is today. It will only take one generation to ruin it. And Im not saying that these "rare" colored puppies dont deserve love. All puppies need love and companionship. Its great when I hear of puppies finding loving for-ever homes. THEY JUST DONT NEED TO BE BRED!!! Im am glad to hear that the Biewer breeders are coming together and forming their own breed club with its own standards for that breed. I notice its different than the Yorkie standard. I wonder when people will be selling "rare" solid black Biewers?? As with the Yorkie, the "rare" color producer and offspring should be spayed or neutered. I am not writing this to hurt any feelings or stomp on any toes. but to hopefully educate breeders about the importance of standards and why we should all strive to enforce them. Just think, everytime someone buys a "rare" colored puppy, the breeder is being rewarded for poor breeding practices. And I am not just talking about puppy mills that fill the pet stores.

And to the person who wants a chocolate yorkie, I am sure the puppy is as cute as a bugs ear!!!!! Make your own decision and buy what ever pleases you. Just dont buy form a pet store. Do your homework. Dont just buy color, buy for good health also.

Ok, you can all slam me now!!!!! Lynn

[Sethowner]

Please Do Not Buy From A Pet Store!!!!!!!

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

Yep, I am opinionated when it comes to "rare" colored Yorkies being produced over and over and over again just for the $$$$$. Has anyone ever read the AKC standard for the Yorkie??? Let me know where it says chocolate and partie colors are acceptable!! If it werent for the indescriminate back yard breeders, there would be no need for the AKC standard. All breeders would be responsible enough to have "rare" color producers and the offspring spayed and neutered. All Yorkies produced would look like Yorkies, shaded tan and gun metal blue silk hair, being of prime importance. I dont think chocolate or partie was mentioned anywhere. If we didnt have an AKC standard, breeders would just breed willy, nilly and there would be no Yorkie. It took generations for breeders to get the standard where it is today. It will only take one generation to ruin it. And Im not saying that these "rare" colored puppies dont deserve love. All puppies need love and companionship. Its great when I hear of puppies finding loving for-ever homes. THEY JUST DONT NEED TO BE BRED!!! Im am glad to hear that the Biewer breeders are coming together and forming their own breed club with its own standards for that breed. I notice its different than the Yorkie standard. I wonder when people will be selling "rare" solid black Biewers?? As with the Yorkie, the "rare" color producer and offspring should be spayed or neutered. I am not writing this to hurt any feelings or stomp on any toes. but to hopefully educate breeders about the importance of standards and why we should all strive to enforce them. Just think, everytime someone buys a "rare" colored puppy, the breeder is being rewarded for poor breeding practices. And I am not just talking about puppy mills that fill the pet stores.

And to the person who wants a chocolate yorkie, I am sure the puppy is as cute as a bugs ear!!!!! Make your own decision and buy what ever pleases you. Just dont buy form a pet store. Do your homework. Dont just buy color, buy for good health also.

Ok, you can all slam me now!!!!! Lynn

I just want to know how the standard yorkie is going to be RUINED.

I would imagine way back when, when breeders were mixing all those different breeds together, that make up the yorkshire terrier, the breeders of all those other breeds were just as appaled. And were just as determined that their BREED was going to be RUINED.

Nothing got RUINED and we ended up with the beautiful little yorkies that we love today. These off colors cannot be shown, the standard is not going to change, so where is the harm?

[diggy4]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

Yep, I am opinionated when it comes to "rare" colored Yorkies being produced over and over and over again just for the $$$$$. Has anyone ever read the AKC standard for the Yorkie??? Let me know where it says chocolate and partie colors are acceptable!! If it werent for the indescriminate back yard breeders, there would be no need for the AKC standard. All breeders would be responsible enough to have "rare" color producers and the offspring spayed and neutered. All Yorkies produced would look like Yorkies, shaded tan and gun metal blue silk hair, being of prime importance. I dont think chocolate or partie was mentioned anywhere. If we didnt have an AKC standard, breeders would just breed willy, nilly and there would be no Yorkie. It took generations for breeders to get the standard where it is today. It will only take one generation to ruin it. And Im not saying that these "rare" colored puppies dont deserve love. All puppies need love and companionship. Its great when I hear of puppies finding loving for-ever homes. THEY JUST DONT NEED TO BE BRED!!! Im am glad to hear that the Biewer breeders are coming together and forming their own breed club with its own standards for that breed. I notice its different than the Yorkie standard. I wonder when people will be selling "rare" solid black Biewers?? As with the Yorkie, the "rare" color producer and offspring should be spayed or neutered. I am not writing this to hurt any feelings or stomp on any toes. but to hopefully educate breeders about the importance of standards and why we should all strive to enforce them. Just think, everytime someone buys a "rare" colored puppy, the breeder is being rewarded for poor breeding practices. And I am not just talking about puppy mills that fill the pet stores.

And to the person who wants a chocolate yorkie, I am sure the puppy is as cute as a bugs ear!!!!! Make your own decision and buy what ever pleases you. Just dont buy form a pet store. Do your homework. Dont just buy color, buy for good health also.

Ok, you can all slam me now!!!!! Lynn

I doubt anyone is going to slam you at all. It's and opinion and we all have one.

I just wonder how the Yorkie itself started?? I thought I read somewhere that noone really knows exactly where the Yorkshire Terrier came from, but the do know the breed is a result of intermingling of the Waterside Terrier, English Terrier, and Paisley and Clydsdale Terrier. Maybe more!! I guess all AKC breeds started somewhere.
I wonder if any of those dogs carried the white we see coming up today? Who knows....I just hope every puppy out there, even if it's purple gets a loving home.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

I just want to know how the standard yorkie is going to be RUINED.

I would imagine way back when, when breeders were mixing all those different breeds together, that make up the yorkshire terrier, the breeders of all those other breeds were just as appaled. And were just as determined that their BREED was going to be RUINED.

Nothing got RUINED and we ended up with the beautiful little yorkies that we love today. These off colors cannot be shown, the standard is not going to change, so where is the harm?

That standard will not be ruined. It stands as it is, and as you say the off colors cannot be shown. As, long as there is a public that will purchase these off colored dogs, there will be breeders, breeding to sell for exhorbant prices to the unsuspecting public.

Yes, there were various breeds that were used to breed the Yorkshire Terrier. However, it was done with a reason. In the 1700 and 1800, serfs were not allowed to have larger dogs. It was English Law and they could be punished for having such. Therefore, they performed various breedings to develope smaller dogs that would serve a purpose....ratters, rabbit hunters, etc. They did not do it for the purpose of the almighty $$$$. Most of the breeds that were used to make up the Yorkshire Terrier are now extinct.

[mizzwanned]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

I just want to know how the standard yorkie is going to be RUINED.

I would imagine way back when, when breeders were mixing all those different breeds together, that make up the yorkshire terrier, the breeders of all those other breeds were just as appaled. And were just as determined that their BREED was going to be RUINED.

Nothing got RUINED and we ended up with the beautiful little yorkies that we love today. These off colors cannot be shown, the standard is not going to change, so where is the harm?

Thank you! I agree

[diggy4]

I read that they were bred to keep Millers, Miners, and factory men company and were small enough to fit in their duffle bag! Then the wealthy women took them over raising the price making them highly sought after....Not sure though I just wasnt there. Well whatever reason it was i am glad they did it!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by diggy4

I read that they were bred to keep Millers, Miners, and factory men company and were small enough to fit in their duffle bag! Then the wealthy women took them over raising the price making them highly sought after....Not sure though I just wasnt there. Well whatever reason it was i am glad they did it!

Huddersfield Ben, known as the Grandfather of Yorkies...was not a small dog.

It's true they were breed by millers and factory men for ratting. They really didn't become popular, if you could call it that, until the late 1800, early 1900.

Have you seen pictures of Little Sir Model.....my gosh his coat looked like a brillo pad. As a matter of fact even in the seventies, black soft coated dogs were being shown and didn't evolve to the type of coat that is described in the standard until the eighties and early ninties.

[yorkiekist]

If I am not mistakened, I thought that reputable, responsible dog breeders were only breeding to IMPROVE the breed, not just create puppies to sell. I also thought that reputable, responsible dog breeders used the AKC standard for the breed as a guidline when breeding a litter.(or Canadian Kennel Club standard, etc) So, if many breeders are not following the standard in order to create "rare" colors, then arent they "breeding down" and in a sense, "ruining" the breed by purposely not following the standard? Isnt it the same if someone started breeding Yorkies with the "rare" curley hair or the "rare" blue eyes or the "rare" short hair? How about a "rare" top-line like a Bedlington Terrier? HMMMMMMM.................

IF YOU CAN BREED IT THE $$$$$$ WILL COME

Well, you all know how I feel about "rare" Yorkies now!! Sorry if I dont agree with all of you, hope I educated some of you, and I didnt mean to step on toes and hurt feelings. I know all of you LOVE your "rare" yorkies more than life itsself and I know you spoil them rotten!!!!! Just as it should be. I will get off my soap box now. Lynn

[Pinehaven]

Originally Posted by diggy4

I'm going to have to stay out of this one as a few have made some BIG statments and some pretty opinionated ones about this subject. Maybe not realizing they have hurt others feelings or they just dont care.


What do I think of a chocolate yorkie?? I think they deserve just as much love as any other Yorkie But you should not have to pay a lot more. Yes they are said to be a defect in genes. Ask yourself this...If your child had a defect would you not consider them your child?? If you like the Chocolate Yorkie, then you get yourself one. Have an open heart and an open mind. I hope all works out for you and if you do go with the chocolate or any other Yorkie for that matter please post pics! we love pics!

Amen!

[chocolategracie]

i actually own a chocolate and would love to find a Parti.i have to wait for my Parti because of their current price.what i see is a bunch of people basically lying because they are too afraid to just say that these colours are rare.yes i said it!they are rare-no way around it.here'e the definition of rare
rare 1 (râr)
adj. rar·er, rar·est
1. Infrequently occurring; uncommon: a rare event.
2. Excellent; extraordinary.
3. Thin in density: rarefied.
i do not get why so many people are aganst saying that they are rare.its a fact-plain and simple!how many of these different colours have you seen?how many of you have ever seen a chocolate or Parti in person?i can't personally afford the cost of a Parti right now but can understand why they cost what they do.a little thing called supply and demand.that's where the word RARE comes into play.the cost is high because the supply is low.i spent quite a bit on my chocolate but this was my choice.i don't think that a person should be knocked for wanting to buy a yorkie that is a different colour than what others are used to seeing.