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Old 08-01-2007, 11:33 AM   #1
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I have not been a member here that long as far as I'm concerned. When I first joined YT a few months this site full of information and helpful people - I read a lot of threads started a few and learned a lot!!!! - It just seems though that recently as you read the threads there are some very cranky people out there - Everyone - (well not everyone) but people seem to be looking for ways to put others down. It almost makes you afraid to ask a question or post a comment. My thoughts - which I think I've been true to are - if you don't have something good to say - don't say anything - Read and leave without commenting - Some members are stressed due to lost dogs - or sick dogs - or home issues and they get added stress by comments on what they posted. It could just be the heat - but cheer up people - Life is short - No need to comment negatively on every post you read - As I said above - (my mom always said this too - and I'm sure you all heard it before) IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING NICE TO SAY - DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL - We may actually have some shorter threads lol.

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I am saddened to say that I agree with you and have been feeling discouraged by a lot of what I read nowadays. Seems there are too many people ready to jump down your throats with their 'knowledge' that often isn't fact based. I have no problem reading different opinions but why some people have to jump all over someone is beyond me

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Old 08-01-2007, 11:52 AM   #3
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I agree as well. There seem to be times of the year where this happens a lot and this is one of those times!! In addition to your old adage, I'll include - treat others as you would wish to be treated.

And a personal favorite quote from Dr. Martin Luther King - "an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind"
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I haven't been on here very long either but I have to agree...there has been a lot of cattiness and negativity here lately....maybe worldwide PMS Sometimes I'm almost afraid to post so just PM people. Patty
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:44 PM   #5
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I agree that there are some pretty mean people out there, but I also have to say that there have been ALOT of people here who totally supported me through some tough times with my little Lily. I'd like to think that for every one mean person here, there are 10 nice ones to make up for it. But, I do see what you're saying. I got a pretty nasty PM from someone on here the day Lily died. I don't know why people want to be mean or how they can be so heartless, but unfortunately, there are people like that. It's sad, really.
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I agree that there are some pretty mean people out there, but I also have to say that there have been ALOT of people here who totally supported me through some tough times with my little Lily. I'd like to think that for every one mean person here, there are 10 nice ones to make up for it. But, I do see what you're saying. I got a pretty nasty PM from someone on here the day Lily died. I don't know why people want to be mean or how they can be so heartless, but unfortunately, there are people like that. It's sad, really.
I cannot imagine why anyone would want to send you anything other than a loving PM after you've lost a beloved pet. I, too, am very particular about which posts I respond to. Unfortunately, when you're on a public forum, it's to be expected. I guess we all had just hoped that being a yorkie-lover makes us better people; not always so.
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I have found on most (if not all) message boards there is always some cattiness, rudeness, hurt feelings, etc. I, myself, am an admin at another message board and believe me what's going on here is not unusual! Whenever people of different backgrounds, religions, political beliefs, etc. come together and discuss topics... there's going to be some clashing. As a group we just have to remember... you can't make EVERYBODY happy all the time.
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I cannot imagine why anyone would want to send you anything other than a loving PM after you've lost a beloved pet. I, too, am very particular about which posts I respond to. Unfortunately, when you're on a public forum, it's to be expected. I guess we all had just hoped that being a yorkie-lover makes us better people; not always so.
Actually, the PM was sent before she died. But, I read the PM just a couple hours before she died. Either way, it was uncalled for because they were making fun of her. I don't think it would have bothered me so much if she hadn't been so sick. Normally, I don't let things like that get to me.
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Actually, the PM was sent before she died. But, I read the PM just a couple hours before she died. Either way, it was uncalled for because they were making fun of her. I don't think it would have bothered me so much if she hadn't been so sick. Normally, I don't let things like that get to me.
Oh my....that actually made me feel sick. What a....jerk. I hope you reported that person to Admin.

I'm sad to say that I agree with the OP. I've been here for a while. I hadn't really realized how much this site has changed until recently I was looking back at some old posts from around the time I joined. "Back then," I don't think anyone would've even thought of sending someone a nasty PM, or if they did, it wouldn't happen a lot. and again, when it happened wasn't that often, but if it did we could easily joke about it afterwords. But the nasty comments lately have be REALLY hurtful. It seems almost like some people are posting JUST to tick other people off. Now, I'm not about to stand back and pretend I'm innocent - I get "into it" with people on occasion. But I've noticed that a lot of people have been very cranky lately and they're just picking apart posts to find something to fight about. It makes me sad.
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Old 08-02-2007, 04:35 AM   #10
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I have to agree. There are people on here that spout their knowledge in a way that puts the poster down. I too believe if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all. I for one look at the posts, and if there's fighting going on I post nothing at all.
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Megan is right. I, too, have noticed a huge change in the general "feeling" here at YT lately. I miss alot because if I see a thread headed in the wrong direction, I leave it. I hate arguements. I know this is a public forum, but I think some people should think about what they are saying before they post. The wording of something can make all the difference in the world. And kicking someone when they are down is just plain wrong. When I first joined, this was a fun place. I still love it here, because of the info, pics, news, etc., but it's just not the same. Can't we all just get along?
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Everyone is absolutely correct in saying YT is changing. Not for the better
I might add. I am glad it's not just me. I have been hanging low lately
because it really bother's me. There are many wonderful, caring and
knowlegable people on this site and I would not want them to leave.
So you guys let's ban together and keep YT the site that we all love
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If you see a thread that looks like it's trouble down the road ignore it. Maybe if some of these negative people get no responses they will
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Anyone that would send a pm to someone who has a sick puppy to tell
hurtfull things is beyond my way of thinking. I am so sorry that happened
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Take note of the poster's and see if they are members or guests.
I always forget to do this. If this continues to happen I would think
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I agree, without going into the specific reasons why I agree, people are very quick to give opinions (and you know what they say about opinions) without stopping to think before they post about how their words might be taken. I've had my feelings hurt more than once without being involved in a thread because of the way some people think. This forum is a very special place that we can turn to in times of need, and sadness or for advice and sometimes just to share funny stories. NOW, because this is the internet and we can't see facial expressions or hear inflections in someone's voice some people may not realize how their words are being taken, that can happen but I do feel that some people have been downright rude when it's not necessary. Restore the peace and harmony to YT!
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I have not been a member here that long as far as I'm concerned. When I first joined YT a few months this site full of information and helpful people - I read a lot of threads started a few and learned a lot!!!! - It just seems though that recently as you read the threads there are some very cranky people out there - Everyone - (well not everyone) but people seem to be looking for ways to put others down. It almost makes you afraid to ask a question or post a comment. My thoughts - which I think I've been true to are - if you don't have something good to say - don't say anything - Read and leave without commenting - Some members are stressed due to lost dogs - or sick dogs - or home issues and they get added stress by comments on what they posted. It could just be the heat - but cheer up people - Life is short - No need to comment negatively on every post you read - As I said above - (my mom always said this too - and I'm sure you all heard it before) IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING NICE TO SAY - DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL - We may actually have some shorter threads lol.

Have a great day -
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Hi Ida, I'm sorry your time here hasn't been pleasant for you. Your observation of this cattiness is definitely not new. I've seen a number of these threads from unhappy members over the past few months, so your not alone. There are a lot of what can be considered rude or snippy posts that will usually be justified by the usual excuse of: I'm entitled to my opinion. This statement tends to be an escape clause to avoid any judgments, or criticisms or to avoid being condemned themselves.
I believe that just because some one disagrees with our point of view does in no way make us wrong. It may be wise to take into consideration if the input is useful, insightful, objective, or caring. Advice and/or criticism is NOT objective at all. The advice giver has their own guilts, hurts, fears, needs, angers, cynicisms, and arrogance that greatly influences where their expressed views are coming from. Just because our feelings may get hurt in the process does not necessarily mean the advice giver has done anything wrong. We each need to decide for ourselves what is useful to us and what is just mean spirited.
Judgments are absolutely necessary ...without them where would we get laws and codes of conduct...we have to be able to use our own judgments to filter out what where willing to tolerate, what we'll support, and what we'll permit in your own life. We each have our own value system that judges some behaviors as better than others. So ultimately we all choose are own actions and reactions, we can only be responsible for our own choices on how we behave.
I hope you stay around and continue to filter out the rude remarks, sometimes ignoring them altogether is the best response...
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I have found on most (if not all) message boards there is always some cattiness, rudeness, hurt feelings, etc. I, myself, am an admin at another message board and believe me what's going on here is not unusual! Whenever people of different backgrounds, religions, political beliefs, etc. come together and discuss topics... there's going to be some clashing. As a group we just have to remember... you can't make EVERYBODY happy all the time.
I, too, am an admin on another forum. I have found the same things there as well sometimes. I just delete nasty posts and move on. That board is not nearly as busy as this one though, so its a bit easier to manage. I try to not get involved in emotional threads or ones that could turn nasty... but I recently found myself in one (you all probably know) I try to handle the nastiness by educating people, not by being nasty back. I would never stoop to their level.

Another adage that I love : Whats good for the goose is not necessarily good for the gander.
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