I think I just bought a puppy mill Pup :( - Page 11 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Jeri Cunningham · 08-01-2007, 01:57 PM

I just breed my fourth litter and am having a Birthday party for a litter of four that will be 1 on August 23rd. Mom was over 8 lbs and dad was over 13 lbs.
Of the 4 puppies that will be a year old one is under 6 lbs, one just over 6 lbs, one is around 7 lbs and one is 14 lbs!
The runt is the over 14 lb one. It is impossible to make sure they are small as they can go back a gereration or two to get their size.

I have a litter three years ago that the runt is around 7 lbs while mom was 4.2 lbs and dad was 4.6 lbs - go figure. Four puppies and the biggest is arount 5 lbs. none smaller than mom and dad. Just a healthy bunch.

I have 5 yorkies ranging from just over 4 lbs to 14 lbs and love then all equally. The bigest one is great for long walks and rough play. The littlest is prissy and loves to dress up.

Everyone has their preference but to love any Yorkie is an honor! I wouldn't trade or sell any of mine for 1 million dollars

kjk723 · 08-01-2007, 01:57 PM

my little GiGi is 3lb 2 oz at 11 months. I wish she would double her weight!!!! She isnt fragile so to say but LORD is she tiny to me... (SHHH.. dont tell her) I dont care what size she was to me. I was going to buy a male but I saw her sweet little face and that was it! I wish you the best in whatever you do but please NAME the little angel.

punkie · 08-01-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pepe mint

very true!

i've kinda been where you are...only a little different. when i got my cocker (yes, i already owned a cocker when i found this pup) i really had never liked cockers. in fact, swore i would never own one. i was looking for a yorkie (this was 6 years ago) well, i couldn't find a yorkie (as mentioned in my past post) but i found this sweet black cocker that i refused to like. well, she had something else in mind. i ended up getting her INSTEAD of a yorkie..because i fell for her. and she has been the single most amazing dog ever!!! she is so incredibly sweet...VERY well behaved, loving, gentle, smart, BEAUTIFUL, and sooooo much more. i had many times thought that i should let my ex have her so i could get the yorkie of my dreams. but i couldn't part with her. she was my heart. so i stuck with her...we stuck side by side for 6 years...and then one day...I got the yorkie of my dreams. it was sooooooo worth the wait too!! i learned so much by raising my cocker..that i was able to train my yorkie to be a great dog, listen well, and have had little to NO problems with house breaking. and it also gave me my first experience with a small dog (i always had danes and german shephards). so Daisy kinda "broke me in" and when i got maggie, i was ready. really really ready

not saying you are not ready...just saying that what you think you might not want right now, might very well be exactly what you need. and this pup could give you more love than you could ever fathom. i know daisy did. she gave me strength through soooo many hard times.

I used to know someone who had a cocker just like yours. He was very sweet and loving and so cute.

pepe mint · 08-01-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by punkie

I used to know someone who had a cocker just like yours. He was very sweet and loving and so cute.

yes, she is just an angel. she has gotten a little moody the last few months around other female dogs but all in all, she is perfect

here are some pics of her

punkie · 08-01-2007, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetr72

Reece looks like your guy at that age..or he might have been a little older in this pic...but he looks just the same...he is my bestest friend..hehe..

He is so cute

I guess he had floppy ears too at that age too. My puppy's ears actually were erect when I woke up this morning and they've been that way all day. They were floppy yesterday. Kinda caught me by surprise.

pepe mint · 08-01-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by punkie

He is so cute

I guess he had floppy ears too at that age too. My puppy's ears actually were erect when I woke up this morning and they've been that way all day. They were floppy yesterday. Kinda caught me by surprise.

more pictures, more pictures

that's one thing about this site...we EAT UP pictures

punkie · 08-01-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pepe mint

no, he was the most laid back dog EVER. the biggest lover of all. i really miss him!! danes do NOT live long enough.

i do hope to breed danes one day. will probably get my female this spring. i'm so excited

I agree. They really don't live long enough.

You'll have your hands full for sure with a bunch of Dane pups running around, LOL. Good luck to you with the breeding.

pepe mint · 08-01-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by punkie

I agree. They really don't live long enough.

You'll have your hands full for sure with a bunch of Dane pups running around, LOL. Good luck to you with the breeding.

thank you. a good friend of mine breeds show danes and i plan on buying a pup from her spring litter. i am so excited about it. she has given me so much insight and knowledge about it,. i really feel prepared, thanks to her. she is amazing. we are looking for 2-5 acres, so hopefully soon we will have that and can get started building the perfect home for the babies

I just want to make sure we have PLENTY of room

punkie · 08-01-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pepe mint

yes, she is just an angel. she has gotten a little moody the last few months around other female dogs but all in all, she is perfect

here are some pics of her

Aww, she's a pretty lady

yorkieK9trainer · 08-01-2007, 02:10 PM

By definition this breeder is a puppy miller.

Further, you said something that really bothered me more:
"I asked to see the mom and dad and he said that they were both away being bred at the time and showed me a couple of pictures on printer paper. "

I can understand the stud being bred again, but the bitch?? The pup that you purchased was 10 weeks old, which meant that A: The bitch had to have gone back into season within 10 weeks of having produced a litter AND B: That he was willing to breed her back to back.

Now, I've known some breeders to do a breeding back to back, but in rare circumstances.

Poor girl.

I'm glad you are in love w/ your puppy, and I'm sorry he took you for a run for your money. I don't know what you can do that you'd be okay w/.

yorkieK9trainer · 08-01-2007, 02:19 PM

By the way, my Ava that I imported from Hungary is still between 2.5 lbs and 3 (on a full belly). And she was born February 8th of '06.
I have your problem in reverse. lol, I was so hoping for a 5-6 lbs Yorkie and yet I wound up w/ this little girl. That's fine. I know that there simply is NO WAY to guarantee size. Unfortunantely.

The first 3 are Ava and the 4th is Nemo (who is 5.6 lbs)

punkie · 08-01-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pepe mint

more pictures, more pictures

that's one thing about this site...we EAT UP pictures

LOL...
Here are some pictures I just took.

The first two are him sleeping by his puppy gate.
The third one is him on top of the couch. He loves to climb up high.
The last one is him on the bed.

celstu1 · 08-01-2007, 02:26 PM

[QUOTE=Ozzie'sperson;1278053
You have a right to feel however you want. But I can tell you that you may be robbing yourself of a really great experience. I know I sure would have been had I let Ozzie's Forrest Gump IQ sway me. The thing is, much like Forrest, Ozzie is so innocent and sweet and loving and loyal.

It's 10 years later, and I wouldn't have him any other way.

[/QUOTE]

Oh that made me laugh out loud!!! Too FUNNY!!!

punkie · 08-01-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pepe mint

more pictures, more pictures

that's one thing about this site...we EAT UP pictures

And some more...

Here he is trying to destroy my boyfriend's sock and jumping around on the bed (supervised of course). He's been really energetic and rambunctious today.

chachi · 08-01-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by punkie

LOL...
Here are some pictures I just took.

The first two are him sleeping by his puppy gate.
The third one is him on top of the couch. He loves to climb up high.
The last one is him on the bed.

Aw he has such a sweet face

08-01-2007, 01:57 PM	#151
Jeri Cunningham Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hercules,CA Posts: 2,057 Blog Entries: 1	Size shouldn't matter I just breed my fourth litter and am having a Birthday party for a litter of four that will be 1 on August 23rd. Mom was over 8 lbs and dad was over 13 lbs. Of the 4 puppies that will be a year old one is under 6 lbs, one just over 6 lbs, one is around 7 lbs and one is 14 lbs! The runt is the over 14 lb one. It is impossible to make sure they are small as they can go back a gereration or two to get their size. I have a litter three years ago that the runt is around 7 lbs while mom was 4.2 lbs and dad was 4.6 lbs - go figure. Four puppies and the biggest is arount 5 lbs. none smaller than mom and dad. Just a healthy bunch. I have 5 yorkies ranging from just over 4 lbs to 14 lbs and love then all equally. The bigest one is great for long walks and rough play. The littlest is prissy and loves to dress up. Everyone has their preference but to love any Yorkie is an honor! I wouldn't trade or sell any of mine for 1 million dollars __________________ Mandy & Krissy & Teddy & Chelsey & Kayla Non-Yorkie: Rusty & Biewers: Darla & Spanky The Little Rascals

08-01-2007, 01:57 PM	#152
kjk723 Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 385	my little GiGi is 3lb 2 oz at 11 months. I wish she would double her weight!!!! She isnt fragile so to say but LORD is she tiny to me... (SHHH.. dont tell her) I dont care what size she was to me. I was going to buy a male but I saw her sweet little face and that was it! I wish you the best in whatever you do but please NAME the little angel. __________________ The family!!! Kellie, Malakai, and Ezekial and the doggy better half GiGi and Mosheh!!

08-01-2007, 02:10 PM	#160
yorkieK9trainer YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North eastern Illinois Suburbs Posts: 1,669	By definition this breeder is a puppy miller. Further, you said something that really bothered me more: "I asked to see the mom and dad and he said that they were both away being bred at the time and showed me a couple of pictures on printer paper. " I can understand the stud being bred again, but the bitch?? The pup that you purchased was 10 weeks old, which meant that A: The bitch had to have gone back into season within 10 weeks of having produced a litter AND B: That he was willing to breed her back to back. Now, I've known some breeders to do a breeding back to back, but in rare circumstances. Poor girl. I'm glad you are in love w/ your puppy, and I'm sorry he took you for a run for your money. I don't know what you can do that you'd be okay w/. __________________ "Big things come in small packages" http://www.myspace.com/yorkiek9trainer

08-01-2007, 02:19 PM	#161
yorkieK9trainer YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North eastern Illinois Suburbs Posts: 1,669	By the way, my Ava that I imported from Hungary is still between 2.5 lbs and 3 (on a full belly). And she was born February 8th of '06. I have your problem in reverse. lol, I was so hoping for a 5-6 lbs Yorkie and yet I wound up w/ this little girl. That's fine. I know that there simply is NO WAY to guarantee size. Unfortunantely. The first 3 are Ava and the 4th is Nemo (who is 5.6 lbs) Attached Thumbnails __________________ "Big things come in small packages" http://www.myspace.com/yorkiek9trainer Last edited by yorkieK9trainer; 08-01-2007 at 02:21 PM.

08-01-2007, 02:26 PM	#163
celstu1 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 10,534	[QUOTE=Ozzie'sperson;1278053 You have a right to feel however you want. But I can tell you that you may be robbing yourself of a really great experience. I know I sure would have been had I let Ozzie's Forrest Gump IQ sway me. The thing is, much like Forrest, Ozzie is so innocent and sweet and loving and loyal. It's 10 years later, and I wouldn't have him any other way. [/QUOTE] Oh that made me laugh out loud!!! Too FUNNY!!! __________________ “Petting, scratching, and cuddling a dog could be as soothing to the mind and heart as deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer.” ― Dean Koontz