Breeding!!!!! Help!!

[singingjenny24]

ok, I know nothing about the 'how to' process with the 'wild thing' haha I thought you just put them in a room and let them go to town but after this afternoon, I realized it is more difficult. My dog would, um, 'get there'. He's a male, but it would get too big to put it, I guess. they were having trouble locking up. I googled breeding on the web and some site said you have to hold them together...what's that all about???!!!! And there's these things called breeding racks?? what the heck?? I need some serious advice!! Can you help these two little yorkies bless the world with some more cuties for us to love??? Thanks!!!

[mmyorkies]

I hate to sound like I am discourging you from breeding, but have you done some research and reading prior to breeding your yorkies? How about tests for Livershunt, and legg perthes? Are you prepared to risk possibly losing your bitch if she has complications, or losing the litter if she developes an infection? If they are both young inexperienced, they may need help. Do you know what day of her cycle she is on? Is she flagging yet? Did you have her checked out by your vet prior to deciding to breed her to make sure she is in good shape? There are so many risks to breeding toy dogs, and then to keep the puppies alive. Toy puppies have to be kept warm, and you have to make sure mom does not lay on them or step on them. If you end up having a C-Section, you will have to watch very close and probably tube feed the pups every 2 hours until the mother realizes that they are her puppies and bonds with them. How old are your dogs, your bitch should at least be over a year old, actually closer to 2 before being bred. Right now I have a 4 week old pup that was born premature by a week and even my vet did not think shw would make it. We were in the vet's office at 11:30 on a Sunday night (thank goodness, my vet will come in for these things) to have a C-section because my bitch started in labor early. Pup would not breath on her own, and did not have any hair on her lower legs and the muzzle of her face. Vet worked on pup for almost 10 minutes using oxygen before she would breath on her own, and then I spent the first week tube feeding every couple hours around the clock, and it was almost 2 days before the bitch even accepted the pup. Had to use heating pad to keep the puppy warm all the time. This is the same bitch that had a perfectly normal birth of 3 puppies when she had her last litter. These are all things you have to be prepared for if you are going to breed. I read several books on breeding before I ever even thought of trying to breed my yorkies. They sure are a lot different than breeding large dogs. Puppies that are born at 2 - 5 ounces are way more fragile than puppies born over a pound.

[chloeandj]

I want to commend all of the wonderful yorkie breeders here and tell them how wonderful they are when people need help or advice.

Since I've said that I also want to say I have noticed that anyone with a simple question about anything related to breeding is immediately discouraged from doing so by other breeders or members. I know your reasons why, but every breeder, even the very established, professional and wonderful breeders, started out somewhere.

I'm sure I will get some people upset with me for saying this, sorry if I upset someone. But it has been bothering me for a while.

[Chelsie1978]

Ok..now on a more optimist note..yes,you may have to help them,espcailly if they are new at it My vet showed me how to do this (Im doing my homework right now in order to breed my yorkie at the end of the summer) and its not that complicated,once they tie,you can let them go.Also,sometimes you have to "guide" the male,which sounds gross but in some cases (expecially if the male is alot smaller) it has to be done.If your yorkies are similar in size,let them try a few times..they will get it.After all,its not as if us humans invented breeding,dogs have been doing this alone forever! lol.
Would your vet explain how this is done if you asked him too? My vet was kind enough to show me (with Jess) and he didnt mind at all Do you have a mentor? Someone who can help you through the whole thing? It seems alot easier if you can pick up the phone and ask someone what or what not to do I wish you luck!! How exiting!!!

[singingjenny24]

thanks chelsea...my dog is a boy and while i care about the pups very much and the mother, I will not be the one taking care of them. The owner's mother is the very experienced breeder and she is in Brazil right now, but the dog is in heat so we are trying to help them right now and none of us have been there for the 'mating' process. The experienced breeder will be back in a week or so but we didnt want to miss the right time. Thanks for your advice!! I really appreciate it!!

[Chelsie1978]

Your welcome Tell me how it goes because this is always exiting! I will be in your shoes at the end of the summer (fingers crossed) so I will want to know how it all went with your babies Try not to think about all the negative things that can happen because in most cases everything is fine...just keep your vets phone number handy and put a little money aside for an emergency Im sure all will go well Ohh..another thing.When they DO tie,mark the date on your calendar That way you have a rough idea on when the pups will arrive if she is pregnant

[mmyorkies]

"and its not that complicated,once they tie,you can let them go."
Gina, I am glad you are preparing yourself before you breed, that really is the best thing you can do, but you still need to read a little more.

You can not let them on their own, too many times the female will try to break away and can seriously harm the male, in fact if she damages him too bad he may have to be put down. I don't want to discourage people from breeding, I get a lot of flack from the show people I associat with because I feel that we do need some good, caring pet breeders, but they really need to be informed and educated before they put 2 dogs together and expect to get nice healthy puppies with no problems.

[mmyorkies]

Originally Posted by singingjenny24
thanks chelsea...my dog is a boy and while i care about the pups very much and the mother, I will not be the one taking care of them. The owner's mother is the very experienced breeder and she is in Brazil right now, but the dog is in heat so we are trying to help them right now and none of us have been there for the 'mating' process. The experienced breeder will be back in a week or so but we didnt want to miss the right time. Thanks for your advice!! I really appreciate it!!

OK, if the breeder is experienced can you contact her and find out what day of the heat cycle the female is in. She will probably have a good idea of if the time is right or not. The female will not accept the dog for the entire time she is in her cycle. There is a standing heat period that she will allow him to mount and enter her. If they are both inexperienced, they probably will need help. As mentioned before, your vet should be able to help you there.

[Olivier]

When there is a tie , you can't let them go because there is a risk that the female hurt the male . You let them go when the tie broke .

[YorkieRose]

Breeding racks are for large dogs..not needed for toys...but some need assistance from the breeder..unfortunately, I can not tell you, I would have to show you..a hands on type learning experience...a bit like a doctor actually preforming surgery and talking about it.

[mmyorkies]

An excellent book to read if you want to breed is "Canine Reproduction". This was recommended to me by my vet that specializes in breeding. I can't remember the author right now, but it is a very informative book and covers a lot.

[YorkieRose]

mmyorkies..is that book a small one with a brown cover? I am still looking for my copy if so...

[mmyorkies]

No, not small, pretty good sized. I will try to get a picture of it tonight when I get home ad post it, along with the author. I have several books on breeding, but that one is pretty thorough.

[Chelsie1978]

Ok..I didnt explain my self well.I meant that you can let them go (my vet said you dont have to hold them together the WHOLE time) but you have to stay with them or near by.He showed me how to do this by holding Jess I had NO idea that some dogs needed help before then so I was surprised but thankful that he took the time to explain
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Oops,I forgot to add that he also told me that only a few dogs need help.As I said before,we arent about to show other species how to do this...its something they can ALL do alone in the end and always have.Not wanting to wait or wanting to hurry the process along is just an option.My vet is awsome

[singingjenny24]

in what way can the male be seriously hurt....dont dogs mate all the time in the wild without getting seriously injured?? how do i know if he is hurt or not?? he just tried again and they never did tie. he went potty after the 2nd session without any glitches as normal so how do i know if he is hurt or not. He is crying at the front door for her right now as we speak...normally a mild mannered very little barking dog and he is with his nose to the front door missing her!! Poor little guy...any answers to these questions would be appreciated!!! how long do they tie for??