Parti-colored Yorkies

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by dezertblu

From My personal understanding and various research into it, the Biewer IS a TOTALLY DIFFERENT dog to the Parti color Yorkie, the Biewer is a German breed unto itself, probably a close relative to the Yorkie, but deffinately NOT a Yorkie, where on the other hand the Parti Color Yorkie, is deffinately a type of Yorkie with different markings, though many a breeder site has claimed AKC and acceptance among the breeding yorkie world, I personally find no data to support any claims, I have yet to find any DNA reports stating the Yorkie should have a piebald gene, and all science points to and has proven this parti color yorkie MUST have another breed in the original mix to have brought the piebald gene into the world of Yorkies.I am not against this new coloring , as I find it quite cute and think it suits the Yorkie to have other color choices, but my problem is......to claim this is a pure bred Yorkie, and to say there is nothing but Yorkie in thier genes, is ridiculous, as for centuries the Yorkie gene hasn't contained piebald, why suddenly would it appear unless a breeder, somewhere has taken and added a dog with piebald genes into the mix.Sure maybe now the gene is so well mixed in they CAN breed the Parti Yorkie mom with a true Yorkie dad and get the results or two parti's and get the result, but no one in any of my research has ever seen a parti pup come from a true line of standard yorkie parents.We just need to be careful that when creating one thing we don't destroy ages of preservation.The Yorkie breed has been maintained for a very long time, and even today with our even smaller tea cups and our pure blondes, we are changing what was meant to be preserving the breed.The Original breeds the Yorkie came from , some of them are extinct, imagine that...there are breeds of terrier extinct , breeds that existed not all that long ago, we as humans messing with the mix are in danger of doing the same, not only with our beloved Yorkies but MANY types, did you know there is an endangered breeds list for dogs...and we may lose more breeds that have for so long been protected by careful breeding programs? Anyways, didn't mean to rant on, like I said they are very cute and I wouldn't mind one myself.......but what cost will "fashion" have on the fate of the original Yorkie?

[Quote]but no one in any of my research has ever seen a parti pup come from a true line of standard yorkie parents.[/Wuote]

I disagree with you. And not only from a true line of yorkies, but from a Champion line no less.

I don't believe it is ridiculous to claim they came from two traditional colored yorkies. The extensive DNA testing that was required by the AKC, satisfies me that the parti coloreds came from two traditional colored yorkies.

My little Chachi does not have a spot of white on him but because his daddy is a parti, he is definitely a carrier, and if I were to mate him to another traditional colored carrier, they could produce parti colored offspring. I do not know what was required for the Biewer line, so I won't comment on them.

That gene may have only been in one line of dogs, and maybe there was a maltese mixed in, but it was so far back that it was and is still part of their make up.

The reason it does not show up very often and usually only in champion lines, is because the champion lines are where they do the in breeding. Ethical, Inexperienced breeders would never try it.

[pmwildcherryss]

I just bought 2 Parti Yorkies.The are the Best looking Parti Pups and Adults I have ever seen.

[BamaFan121s]

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by pmwildcherryss

I just bought 2 Parti Yorkies.The are the Best looking Parti Pups and Adults I have ever seen.

That's only because you have never seen my Livi.

I see this is your first post..welcome to YorkieTalk.

Tammy

[DvlshAngel985]

I'm very confused now, are yorkies and biewers the same breed or different breeds?
One thing I know for sure is that they're both super cute! But I would like to know the diff.

[karren]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

You made me laugh

[mypreciouspups]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I have a friend with one and two more coming from German soon..maybe the same person. They have no more health problems then standard color Yorkies. I understand why serious fanicers disagree..I don't see the problem myself. I have my name on several lists., who knows if I will get one or decide they are too pricy???Most will run $2000 from Germany..then shipping, etc. A few sell as low as $1200 to $3000. USA breeders want $3000 to $5000.

pat.. I believe they will come down in price.. I was offered a breeding pair two years ago and buying both I could have gotten the pair for 5,000. ya know there is a german biewer on yt ah... if you sign up to his site.. you get emails every time he has new babies and pictures.. I still get them...anne

[pmwildcherryss]

They are not the same at all the Parti's are AKC reg much smaller dogs.Mine will be 5 lbs grown the other can be up to like 14 lbs.All together not the same but the color is close to the same marks.Both are very cute.I wanted to get the Best so I called CrownRidge Yorkies in Cali.USA Loved all her Dogs there very nice.Top of the line Parti's Now this parti Crew will be in Florida.Pups in 2009/2010 We are Very Happy!

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by mypreciouspups

pat.. I believe they will come down in price.. I was offered a breeding pair two years ago and buying both I could have gotten the pair for 5,000. ya know there is a german biewer on yt ah... if you sign up to his site.. you get emails every time he has new babies and pictures.. I still get them...anne

This thread is from 2004....and yes the prices have come down in four years.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by pmwildcherryss

They are not the same at all the Parti's are AKC reg much smaller dogs.Mine will be 5 lbs grown the other can be up to like 14 lbs.

Biewers, Partis and Yorkies all have the same 'standard' in regards to weight--up to 7 pounds. One variation is not neccessarily "smaller" than the other--the size depends on the genetic background of the dogs the breeder is using to produce offspring. All three can be "up to 14 pounds" or as small as "5 lbs grown."

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

I'm very confused now, are yorkies and biewers the same breed or different breeds?

Yes and no. Biewers originated in Germany from 2 standard color Yorkies, thus becoming the Beiwer Yorkshire Terrier a la Pom Pon. Over time they were selectively bred to reproduce the variance in coloring. As of now their is a standard for the Biewers regarding specific requriements for color placement. They are not registerable with AKC. The goal of working towards getting them accepted and how to go about it is widely not currently agreed upon by present day Biewer breeders. Partis have no set standard at this point and no requirements for color placement. They ARE registerable with AKC.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by karren

You made me laugh

LOL...glad to oblige. Seeing as this thread was started in 2004, and there had not been a post on it in over 2 years when it was bumped, it threw me for a loop!

[xxmxaxrxyxx]

what such an old thread!

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by xxmxaxrxyxx

what such an old thread!

It might be old, but it's all new information to me! Before YT I had no idea a Biewer or a parti-colored yorkie existed! I did notice some pictures in avatars, but I just assumed it was a completely different breed.
The saying is true, you do learn something new every day!