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09-09-2004, 11:11 AM | #16 |
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| Decorations was sold to me as a show/breedable Biewer. Without warning, he quickly and unexpected succumbed to liver shunt, leaving me devastated. The findings of his necropsy: GROSS NECROPSY WAS FOUND TO BE NORMAL EXCEPT FOR A VERY LARGE (about 5mm) LEFT GASTRIC VEIN THAT EMPTIED DIRECTLY INTO THE CAUDAL VENA CAVA. PICTURES WERE TAKEN. THE MICROCHIP FOR IDENTIFICATION WAS REMOVED AND WILL BE KEPT WITH THE RECORD. LIVER SAMPLES WERE COLLECTED FOR POSSIBLE HISTOPATHOLOGY IF NEEDED. THE ABDOMEN WAS CLOSED. I was so shocked to learn that this IS HEREDITARY. In addition to Decorations, I have his littermate and also three other Biewers that were imported. I'm not only having his sister tested, but the other three Biewers I had imported from Germany. It was my dream to establish this rare breed here in the USA, with a very limited breeding/showing program. It is a devastating loss to my very small breeding program, not to mention my financial losses, now knowing I should not breed his sister either. His sister just won a BEST IN SHOW the first weekend in November of 2003. I have invested thousands of dollars in the five Biewers, paying for flights to Germany, shipping the Biewers here, and showing them. I MAKE THIS PLEA TO ALL BIEWER BREEDERS: PLEASE - UNITE and work towards a common goal by coming forward and sending Dr. Tobias all the information to try and eradicate this from the Biewer as a breed. By doing so it can be either stopped or kept under control before it infests the breed and condemns so much of our future generations as it has in other breeds. Most importantly, serum bile acid test your pups as early as 10 weeks old as Dr. Tobias suggests, it's our only defense. Questionable or suspect dogs should NOT be used, nor their parents or siblings, for breeding as they may very well be carriers of the genetic combination, if not the disease. Donna Decorations Broken Hearted Mom this is from this page http://www.tsfannymaelivershunt.com/...ridgepage3.htm Remember that NO Breed is without health problems of some sort, they are living creatures, just as we humans are, and every living thing has some health issues. |
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09-09-2004, 12:26 PM | #17 |
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| Biewer Yorkies are prone to Liver Shunt and since the German Biewers came from purebred lines, they would have the same health problems standard colors have. The AKC registered Parti-colors are from purebred lines, so they are the same. I understand why the serious fanicer has a problem with non-standard colors. I see no need to breed Biewers with standard colors..then they are no longer registered Biewers or AKC either. JMO Pups born blue or hairless do have more health and genetic problems then the Biewer or standard and it is not wise to breed for these color defects. I want a Biewer, I may breed her to another Biewer. If I get a nice potential I would like to show it. This subject starts big fights among breeders, but after I saw the quality and health of the German Biewer I changed my mind. |
09-09-2004, 05:47 PM | #18 | |
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09-09-2004, 09:01 PM | #19 |
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| Decoration was not my dog, I copied that information off the livershunt website to post it here. I was just letting everyone know that the biewer yorkies are just as prone to hte health issues as the standard color ones. |
09-10-2004, 08:04 PM | #20 | |
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01-01-2005, 06:34 PM | #21 |
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| there is a parti breeder near san diego http://www.crownridgegems.com/contact_us.htm These are the first parti yorkies I've seen. They are cute but im sure there's other parti's with better color, but i figured some would be interested at checking them out. Here is some information they gave me, hope it helps. Parti-color females: $5,000.00 Parti-color males: $4,000.00 Traditional color females that carry the Parti-gene: $3,500.00 Traditional color males that carry the Parti-gene: $2,500.00 We give a $1,000.00 discount for Pairs. You can choose any combination of the above dogs. We also have some traditional color puppies that do not carry the Parti-color gene. They start at $1,500.00 for males and $2,000.00 for females. |
01-01-2005, 07:08 PM | #22 |
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| when i was scouring the internet in search of my yorkie, i came across these "party yorkies" but they were less than $1200..... cant recall the website though, i was tempted to get one becuase they were going for LESS than the standard color yorkies......i should try and see if i can find it again when i have spair time... |
01-01-2005, 10:29 PM | #23 | |
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01-01-2005, 10:35 PM | #24 |
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| lol........ love the response , and i have to agree with you on that one........ but they are adorable arent they? but then again, what kind of yorkie isnt adorable? Are those ones more expensive because they have papers or something? because i have seen them for WAY cheaper than that |
01-01-2005, 10:50 PM | #25 |
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| That site claims that their dogs are AKC registered, but I found this at YCTA. An Important Note About Color in Yorkshire Terriers . The most distinctive characteristic of an adult Yorkshire Terrier is its long blue and* tan silk coat.* A puppy is born black and tan, but the only recognized colors for adults* when registering with AKC are blue and gold, blue and tan, black and gold, or ***** black and tan. *. ***** The AKC Breed Standard and YTCA Code of Ethics do not recognize any other color dogs than noted above.* This includes all gold, born blue, liver (also known as* red or chocolate), and parti-colors.* One of the reasons for avoiding breeding ***** "off-colored" Yorkies is because it could be a genetic defect that may affect the* dog's health.* Some health problems can include, but aren't limited to, severe skin problems, allergies, total hair loss and in some cases long-term illness and/or death.* *. ***** A responsible breeder will not intentionally breed for undesirable traits.* On very rare occasions, a breeder will have a puppy born with a color anomaly.* That puppy* should undergo careful health screenings before being placed in a spay/neuter ***** (non-breeding) home.* A breeder should certainly never promote these deviations* as being desirable or rare. *. ***** There are many issues that potential Yorkie owners need to study before purchasing* their dog.* We hope you will read the helpful information at this website and make* an informed decision.* It could very possibly save you aggravation, ***** disappointment and expense.* We wish you the best of luck in your pursuit* of a happy, healthyYorkshire Terrier. |
01-01-2005, 11:35 PM | #26 |
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| yeah i went online and looked around and found that too, but if they are not recognized bythe AKC because of their coloring how can they be shown? or am i just reading it wrong? all this stuff is soooooooooo confusing, thank gawd toby isnt papered...... |
01-02-2005, 12:10 AM | #27 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Salt Lake City, UT
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| Is he pure bred? Were his parents papered? |
01-05-2005, 08:57 AM | #28 |
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| I read that stuff too, but the lady did say that her parti yorkies are accepted on a one on one bases. When i heard the prices, i was suprised to. im almost tempted to go to germany and buy mine there but i think its too much of a hassle. I think I might just get a common yorkie |
01-05-2005, 03:58 PM | #29 |
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| Akc You may register a parti with AKC if the parents are AKC..just as with a standard color. I have seen the AKC papers on my friends male,.not hearsay. You can not show an AKC parti..the same as AKC white GSD or Boxers,many other non-standard colors..BUT you can show a Biewer at the Biewer clubs of American shows...BUT they can not be AKC registered because they are not an American breed..my Biewer s registered in German. |
01-05-2005, 04:00 PM | #30 |
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| Ps There is no such breed as a "common" yorkie..I read that post to my Yorkies and they insisted I post for them..LOL |
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