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Old 05-02-2006, 09:21 PM   #61
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Oh hon I am sooo sorry!! I can say I have been escorted out of MANY places, if not standing up to people with pets in a pet store to my latest adventure was at the airport.... Taking out pups that had just flown in and were sitting in their own poo!!! Wasn't going to happen. Took the little ones out of the kennel to remove the bedding and give them a clean enviroment and low and behold I had a security guard jumping in and telling me I couldn't do that!! Like heck!! No puppy is going ten more feet in THAT!! Needless to say the pups were cleaned up and I TOO was escorted out of yet another building!! Guess what I would do it again in a heart beat!!
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Quote: Whats the big deal about a 3 lb. dog in a store? I see tons of people that are way dirtier, and make a whole lot more noise than my little princess would ever even consider. what about some of thoses naughty children that are screeming and running down the aisles, why don't they ask them to leave.

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None of the above has anything to do with the rule that "Dogs (including "your little princess) aren't allowed in the store."

And - I have seen children asked to leave a store.....but this is an entirely different issue. And, interestingly -- once I saw a family with three unruly screaming children asked to leave a restaurant. The waitress said that everyone else was complaining and threatening to leave. The family was finally asked to leave -- they were half way through their meal - and got that much of it free. But, this, also, is a different issue.

I think there are a few exceptions regarding having to take our dogs into a place of business. If, unexpectly, you have to run into a store, and the temperature is below zero - or 90 degrees - you might run in and out with your pup as quickly as you can....albeit you may be caught and asked to leave.

Once, I ran into MacDonalds with my dog under my sweatshirt to use the restroom (a real emergency) - and ran in and right back out as fast as I could go. (I really don't like leaving my dog (or dogs) in the car by themselves.)

But - I never deliberately take my pup on a "shopping spree, and every time my dogs go with me, I know exactly where we're going --- and it is where they can go - and are welcome - friends, relatives, Petco, and so on.

I will never understand why so many of you think it is so "cute" to sneak your dogs into places where they shouldn't be. I, personally, don't think that is very law abiding - or a very grownup way to behave.

But, since we have had a million threads on this very same thing - it is evident that there are people who follow the rules - and people who don't....
And - trying to justify "not following the rules" (for whatever reason) doesn't make any sense to me.

Back to the main subject - ---I do think the gentleman who escorted our "thread-starter" out of the store could have done it in a nicer way. I really doubt the store would appreciate his way of managing that situation.

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I think you should report him as well. I am guessing that this is not the first time there is a complaint. Nothing will be done if it isn't reported. I am guessing also that it won't be the last time he is rude but you should stand up for yourself.
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That's horrible. My Target story isn't so bad. I was just asked if Maggie was a service animal and I promptly said "yes, she's my smelling nose dog, she helps me find All the good deals". Well the lady didn't think that was very funny and told me I had to leave. Whats the big deal about a 3 lb. dog in a store? I see tons of people that are way dirtier, and make a whole lot more noise than my little princess would ever even consider. what about some of thoses naughty children that are screeming and running down the aisles, why don't they ask them to leave.

LOL...that's hysterical. I love your way of thinking and I absolutely agree...their are way stinkier humans out there and more annoying kids. I'd rather shop with a little dog too!!
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Val as a professional complainer...LOL...don't call to complain. Write the corporate office...providing all the details, name, date, etc. Writing corporate will get far more response than complaining at the store level. Do whatever you have to do to find out this person's name and position. Sometimes I've simply asked and sometimes I lied by saying....oh who would I talk to at this store for something (fundraiser, distributing literature, anything you can think of). If they say...oh you need to speak to X and want you to hold so they can get them....just say you are mailing the information to their attention. Btw, do not forget to get the store's number. We do alot of business with national chain stores....most are known by their number NOT the address. If you have to...play detective and go back into the store UNTIL you see this person to get the information.

I guess he grabbed ya....just in case....you and Sully made a run for the back of the store...LOL. There is no excuse to treat someone this way.

In our area the only stores that are pet friendly are the pet stores, Lowe's, Home Depot, and the Dollar Store. Don't ask me why the dollar store doesn't care...I haven't figured that one out Lowe's and Home Depot don't have a sign that says pets welcome...but I've seen all sizes in there...including ones that are too big to be carried or ride in a cart...they're on a leash. Food Lion has a sign posted directly on their door, but they're the only place I can recall actually posting their policy.

I think the biggest issue a store has with pets is the liability issue if someone gets bitten.....by allowing an animal IN the store...they are accepting the liability.

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Oh hon I am sooo sorry!! I can say I have been escorted out of MANY places, if not standing up to people with pets in a pet store to my latest adventure was at the airport.... Taking out pups that had just flown in and were sitting in their own poo!!! Wasn't going to happen. Took the little ones out of the kennel to remove the bedding and give them a clean enviroment and low and behold I had a security guard jumping in and telling me I couldn't do that!! Like heck!! No puppy is going ten more feet in THAT!! Needless to say the pups were cleaned up and I TOO was escorted out of yet another building!! Guess what I would do it again in a heart beat!!
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[QUOTE=SnowWa]Some day you'll learn..... Every time you take your "dog" into a public place, there is a chance you may be asked to leave. Most public buildings do not allow animals. However, like driving under the influence --- you can get away with it over and over again - simply because there isn't a person around who is going to enforce that rule. Until - eventually - when you do get caught. I know that often even employees will make a big fuss over your dog and tell you how cute it is. These employees either don't know about the store policy (which is ridiculous), or they don't care to enforce it.

I agree that the person who marched you to the door was a little too much. It could have been handle so much better. And, I wouldn't be happy being treated the way he treated you either. Maybe you got a bad guy on a bad day -- who knows!! He deserves to have a complaint filed against him. I sure the store wouldn't be happy with the way he treated you.


Comparing children with dogs is not a logical analogy at all. People are customers - people with children are customers - people are allowed in stores -- dogs are not allowed.

And the size of dogs can't be a consideration either. Either dogs are allowed or they're not.

I knew when you said "Humiliated at Target" -- what your story was going to be. But, again, I do agree that the person who asked you to leave didn't handle the situation very well at all.

I think the bottom line is that "a rule is a rule," and if you choose not to follow it, you're putting yourself in a position where you may be asked to leave.

Sorry about your experience!


Well said...very good Post...


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Quote: Whats the big deal about a 3 lb. dog in a store? I see tons of people that are way dirtier, and make a whole lot more noise than my little princess would ever even consider. what about some of thoses naughty children that are screeming and running down the aisles, why don't they ask them to leave.

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None of the above has anything to do with the rule that "Dogs (including "your little princess) aren't allowed in the store."

And - I have seen children asked to leave a store.....but this is an entirely different issue. And, interestingly -- once I saw a family with three unruly screaming children asked to leave a restaurant. The waitress said that everyone else was complaining and threatening to leave. The family was finally asked to leave -- they were half way through their meal - and got that much of it free. But, this, also, is a different issue.

I think there are a few exceptions regarding having to take our dogs into a place of business. If, unexpectly, you have to run into a store, and the temperature is below zero - or 90 degrees - you might run in and out with your pup as quickly as you can....albeit you may be caught and asked to leave.

Once, I ran into MacDonalds with my dog under my sweatshirt to use the restroom (a real emergency) - and ran in and right back out as fast as I could go. (I really don't like leaving my dog (or dogs) in the car by themselves.)

But - I never deliberately take my pup on a "shopping spree, and every time my dogs go with me, I know exactly where we're going --- and it is where they can go - and are welcome - friends, relatives, Petco, and so on.

I will never understand why so many of you think it is so "cute" to sneak your dogs into places where they shouldn't be. I, personally, don't think that is very law abiding - or a very grownup way to behave.

But, since we have had a million threads on this very same thing - it is evident that there are people who follow the rules - and people who don't....
And - trying to justify "not following the rules" (for whatever reason) doesn't make any sense to me.

Back to the main subject - ---I do think the gentleman who escorted our "thread-starter" out of the store could have done it in a nicer way. I really doubt the store would appreciate his way of managing that situation.

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I couldn't agree more. I also think that the man handled the situation the wrong way as well.. BUT I also know that this wouldn't have happened if the she hadn't taken the pup in with her. Complaining about something that only happened because the rules were broken will probably fall on deaf ears.

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Some day you'll learn..... Every time you take your "dog" into a public place, there is a chance you may be asked to leave. Most public buildings do not allow animals. However, like driving under the influence --- you can get away with it over and over again - simply because there isn't a person around who is going to enforce that rule. Until - eventually - when you do get caught. I know that often even employees will make a big fuss over your dog and tell you how cute it is. These employees either don't know about the store policy (which is ridiculous), or they don't care to enforce it.

I agree that the person who marched you to the door was a little too much. It could have been handle so much better. And, I wouldn't be happy being treated the way he treated you either. Maybe you got a bad guy on a bad day -- who knows!! He deserves to have a complaint filed against him. I sure the store wouldn't be happy with the way he treated you.


Comparing children with dogs is not a logical analogy at all. People are customers - people with children are customers - people are allowed in stores -- dogs are not allowed.

And the size of dogs can't be a consideration either. Either dogs are allowed or they're not.

I knew when you said "Humiliated at Target" -- what your story was going to be. But, again, I do agree that the person who asked you to leave didn't handle the situation very well at all.

I think the bottom line is that "a rule is a rule," and if you choose not to follow it, you're putting yourself in a position where you may be asked to leave.

Sorry about your experience!

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Said like a respectful, Responsible ADULT!!! I second everything you said I have to small children and sometimes they have a melt down in the store, but they deserve to be there!!!
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Oh my...filing criminal charges? Lawsuit against Target?? Assaulted by and employee?? This was posted in jest I hope. Right??

I thought the Silly faces would have been enough of a tip off! I guess not....

People take themselves way to seriously these days! Mr. Manager needed to chill out!



And as far as the kid thing that someone commented on..... I have left carts full of merchandise sitting at customer service before because my daughter was just "starting" to get fussy.... I would snatch her up and take her home! I have paid for dinners that never even made it to my table, because she was teething! I NEVER let my child cry in public, or throw a fit in public. I always thought it was so rude and such an awful thing to do to the dozens of other diners or shoppers. Ruin their evenings so my child could cry it out?? How selfish! I grabbed my child and left. And my children learned that if they wanted to go with me, they had to behave.

So I am one of those people who has zero tolerance for the mother who is dragging her child by the arm screaming up and down the isles as she shopsfor the next hour and a half... acting like its the most normal thing ever! Its not! Take your kid home! Or Children out at 11pm crying in the shopping carts cause they are so far beyond tiard.... take them home and put them to bed! I was a single mom, for a while, I figured it out!

I go shopping to relax... there is nothing relaxing about a 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum in isle 5, 2, 7, and 13! 99% of the time, its me who leaves the store! Empty handed.

I agree that there should be clear posted rules about dogs.... but I would love to see some clearly posted rules about a Parents responsibility for their children's behavior too! I would have no problem following either of them!
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The guy was obviously on some kind of weird power trip. I would report him b/c his behavior was unacceptable no matter what the dog rule of the store is.

I take my dog everywhere and I always will. She hurts no one and nothing anyone says can convince me otherwise. It's just a rule and it has no basis. Even health officials think it doesn't do much. People track in more crap on their shoes.

My favorite is the Malls that have a NO pet policy, but change that rule during the holidays to provide photo with Santa opportunities. When it means $$$ the "standards" change.

Write a letter, this man is whacked and deserves reporting.

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But, since we have had a million threads on this very same thing - it is evident that there are people who follow the rules - and people who don't....
And - trying to justify "not following the rules" (for whatever reason) doesn't make any sense to me.
It's just a matter of what rules one chooses to follow. We all have priorities and we just happen to be very different.
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I thought the Silly faces would have been enough of a tip off! I guess not....

People take themselves way to seriously these days! Mr. Manager needed to chill out!



And as far as the kid thing that someone commented on..... I have left carts full of merchandise sitting at customer service before because my daughter was just "starting" to get fussy.... I would snatch her up and take her home! I have paid for dinners that never even made it to my table, because she was teething! I NEVER let my child cry in public, or throw a fit in public. I always thought it was so rude and such an awful thing to do to the dozens of other diners or shoppers. Ruin their evenings so my child could cry it out?? How selfish! I grabbed my child and left. And my children learned that if they wanted to go with me, they had to behave.

So I am one of those people who has zero tolerance for the mother who is dragging her child by the arm screaming up and down the isles as she shopsfor the next hour and a half... acting like its the most normal thing ever! Its not! Take your kid home! Or Children out at 11pm crying in the shopping carts cause they are so far beyond tiard.... take them home and put them to bed! I was a single mom, for a while, I figured it out!

I go shopping to relax... there is nothing relaxing about a 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum in isle 5, 2, 7, and 13! 99% of the time, its me who leaves the store! Empty handed.

I agree that there should be clear posted rules about dogs.... but I would love to see some clearly posted rules about a Parents responsibility for their children's behavior too! I would have no problem following either of them!
Nope..that's why i posted to ask you..sometimes how someone types something is not always the was it is decoded. Thanks!
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Hi I would make a complaint to the store manager. I don't know about Targets other places but here they are not dog friendly or the one I went too wasn't. My neice was with me and she had her Yorkie (before I had Georgie) and she went to take him in, he was inside the bag but his little head was popping out, and the clerk said that if the manager were to see they would make us leave.
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