Humiliated at Target

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Originally Posted by Brandy101b

I think any one who has posted about children and don't have children don't have a right to say how they would act or respond to there child acting up in public. You DON'T know what its like untill it is your child and you don't knwo how you'll react untill you have a child. Those with nieces and newphews NOT the same thing at all. My views were much diffrnet before I had kids, but not now. My daughter is very well behaved in public but she still acts up from time to time and I could care less what others think or feel during that moment. My attention is her not them. I teach my daughter to be good in public but that is fr me not for anyone else. I may be selfish but I don't care, we pay taxes we deserve to eat and shop when and where we want no matter what. That does'nt mean I would let my child go crazy in public but a little tantrum or crying is nothing to drop your cart in an isle for or to leave in the middle of dinner for. I have never personally had any one say anything to me about my kids acting up because it is rare, but I can promise you this if they ever did they would be leaving with a fat lip! I think everyone should just mind there own bussiness. So many people who have NO KIDS are judgmental towards those who do like they would be so much better at it, untill you walk a day in a parents shoes you have no room to comment. PERIOD!!

Well said Brandy,
Until you are a parent you can't say how you would respond. Reminds me of my sister's best friend. We all hung out years ago, when our kids were little(she wasn't a parent at the time) and when the kids would act up she would exclaim"My kids will never act that way, get away with that..well guess what, she had kids and they were far worse than most kids I had ever seen.We teased her when her kids wouuld get away with things.."my kids...BLAH... BLAH ..BLAH
Also, Brandy is not saying she let's her children be disrubtive,screaming, running in the isles,clothes rack etc... We can't and should'nt expect a 6 year old or whatever act as an adult...NO WAY!!!

[cheryl000]

okay, here is my two cents. It is very different when you are around a child ALL the time and not just babysitting a nephew. It is much more stressful and you have a lot less options when you are the full time parent-figure.
My husband goes underway on the ship and we have no family here. I stay at home all the time with my 4 year old. But we do have to go out and shop or buy groceries. He HATES going to the store and has told me that on several occasions. But what can I do? I can't grow my own food. I try to take in a dvd player when we go shopping so that he'll have something to do. That works sometimes if they have the right kind of cart, but if the cart doesn't fit, it falls to the floor and I can't use it.
If Dom starts getting really tired of it, I do try to rush through it, but sometimes it still takes a while. I try to call him down, it's not his fault all the time. You have to have EMPATHY for your kids too. Especially if they haven't napped yet and their attention span just isn't as long as an adult. I still give my son discipline and try to quiet him down, but I can't expect him to be excited about sitting in a cart when we're grocery shopping. I try to give him something to do, but it doesn't always work.
As for the dogs being compared to children. I think it's disgusting when someone says that their DOG deserves to be in a store more than a child. I believe most dogs in the US are dirtier than a child and their "leaky diaper." Most kids don't carry fleas or pose sanitation issues. Kids don't like their own butts and most don't eat their own poo. I would feel absolutely disgusted if someone where to pet a dog and then pick out fruit at the grocery store compared to holding their child and picking up fruit. As for the noise, to me barking is more annoying. In restaurants I think that you pay for what you get. If you go to McDonalds or Denny's expect to hear kids acting up. One Valentines Day I did have about 20 teenagers on their prom night ruin my eating out experience at an Italian restaurant. They were very loud and cussed a lot around my son. We just left there early and I was glad those kids weren't mine to deal with all the time. But you can always move to another table. Life isn't perfect and there will be lots of annoying things in life, just cherish what is going good for you because there is much worse out there going on.

[Nikko's_human]

Originally Posted by Brandy101b

I think any one who has posted about children and don't have children don't have a right to say how they would act or respond to there child acting up in public. You DON'T know what its like untill it is your child and you don't knwo how you'll react untill you have a child. Those with nieces and newphews NOT the same thing at all. My views were much diffrnet before I had kids, but not now. My daughter is very well behaved in public but she still acts up from time to time and I could care less what others think or feel during that moment. My attention is her not them. I teach my daughter to be good in public but that is fr me not for anyone else. I may be selfish but I don't care, we pay taxes we deserve to eat and shop when and where we want no matter what. That does'nt mean I would let my child go crazy in public but a little tantrum or crying is nothing to drop your cart in an isle for or to leave in the middle of dinner for. I have never personally had any one say anything to me about my kids acting up because it is rare, but I can promise you this if they ever did they would be leaving with a fat lip! I think everyone should just mind there own bussiness. So many people who have NO KIDS are judgmental towards those who do like they would be so much better at it, untill you walk a day in a parents shoes you have no room to comment. PERIOD!!

Everyone has the right to post their opinion whether they have children or not. That said, I think it is ridiculous to threaten to give someone a fat lip just because they point out that your child is disturbing them. Yeah, that's a valuable lesson to teach your child. When I was a kid, my mother would have smacked me if anyone had to point out that I was misbehaving. That was back when parents actually disciplined their kids. Now everything is about excuses. As a former school teacher, I can't tell you how many times I got questioned for punishing children who were causing disturbances in the classroom. I guess these were the same parents that threatened to give people fat lips when they were actually asked to do their job as parents and control their children when they were younger. And you wonder why society is the way that it is today with so much juvenile delinquency!!

[vainchick5]

Originally Posted by Nikko's_human

Everyone has the right to post their opinion whether they have children or not. That said, I think it is ridiculous to threaten to give someone a fat lip just because they point out that your child is disturbing them. Yeah, that's a valuable lesson to teach your child. When I was a kid, my mother would have smacked me if anyone had to point out that I was misbehaving. That was back when parents actually disciplined their kids. Now everything is about excuses. As a former school teacher, I can't tell you how many times I got questioned for punishing children who were causing disturbances in the classroom. I guess these were the same parents that threatened to give people fat lips when they were actually asked to do their job as parents and control their children when they were younger. And you wonder why society is the way that it is today with so much juvenile delinquency!!

I completely agree with you. All my parents had to do was give me the eye and I would behave. They never hit me or grounded me, but I was afraid of them. Now kids are not afraid, parents are afraid of their kids. I agree that it's ridiculous that someone would get a fat lip for wanting to enjoy their peaceful evening or day eating or shopping when it's YOUR kid being disturbing. Just because people don't tell you that it's disruptive doesn't mean it isn't. If people are polite enough to not saying anything, you should be respectful enough to leave and deal with your own problem without making it everyone elses. I may not spend 24hours a day with my nephew but my sister does and I see how she disciplines him, especially in public. People are so busy making excuses for their kids behavior that they don't have time to discipline and control their kids. So it is up to society to step up and say something. You can't blame people for wanting to enjoy their time. You watch all of the shows about teens and young kids doing drugs, having sex and being violent, and they get sent to boot camp or juvi hall. Well I believe most of the time that can be prevented if the child understands his/her boundaries as a child. But if a parent is going to give everyone else a fat lip for their kids wrong doings, what else is that child going to learn other than blaming everyone else.

[Bridget's Mommy]

Wow… this thread has really taken on a life of its own! Not that I’m complaining.. I enjoy reading all the different points of view on a given subject. With that in mind, I’ll throw in my 2 cents.

I believe in letting kids be kids in public… to a point. We’ve all seen the screaming child in the supermarket and the distressed parent trying to calm them down or beating a hasty retreat, whatever the case may be. I can only imagine that this must be as hard on the parent to experience as the observer! But kids are kids and these instances can and will occur. It’s my opinion that it is the responsibility of parents to instill boundaries of behavior with their kids early on. Allowing a child to misbehave and be disruptive in public is unfair not only to those around them, but to the child themselves. It sets a precedent that it’s okay to behave that way and it can only get worse from there. Unfortunately, there are parents who choose not to discipline their children in and out of the home. I believe that’s how you end up with out of control kids/teenagers/adults.