Invisible Fences?

[Baby Blessing]

Originally Posted by Francie

I used to work for Invisible Fencing....these collars are NOT effective (or humane actually) for small breeds, as it tends to change their personalities and create very timid or sometimes aggressive dogs. From my experience, the terriers did not do well with shock collars. And like any device, they are not always reliable, the "shock" will sometimes go off without being properly triggered.

These collars are often ineffective even in the larger breeds (especially high pain threshold breeds such as Malamutes..etc), who will "endure" the shock repeatedly and run through the fence.

I personally find it abusive to any animal...but that is JMO.
Francie

I don't like them either and would never use one. Patti

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by txshopper73

Here is a thread that got a little heated but not too bad. It discusses the pros and cons of an electric wire and also the buried type.

Everyone here knows that I use and electric wire and it works just fine in our home. It hasn't worked in probably a few months and isn't even plugged in anymore but knowing it is there has kept Rebel in the backyard where he belongs.

This thread is 9 pages long but is a good read...

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...light=electric

Also just wanted to add that dogs don't have to wear a collar with the wire.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by alisonJ

THe other problem with an electric fence is that it will not keep larger dogs or other animals OUT of your yard. That could be a problem if there is the possibility of a dog wandering loose or coyotes.

Originally Posted by FirstYorkie

I don't think electric fences are a good idea, especially with such a small dog. But, I think Alison's point is especially valid - that an electric fence does absolutely nothing to protect your small dog from predators.

Nor does it keep someone from coming into your yard and taking your dog.

Although I realize these are valid concerns, sorry, I have to throw this out the window as valid points to argue against this system. IMO, no dog should be allowed unsupervised in an area where predators or people would even have access to them. That's just reckless and irresponsible if you ask me. If you know that your dog isn't going anywhere, but someone or something can get it, WHY on earth would you put them in a position where that can happen?

[FirstYorkie]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

... sorry, I have to throw this out the window as valid points to argue against this system. IMO, no dog should be allowed unsupervised in an area where predators or people would even have access to them.

Isn't that exactly what we are talking about with this system? Letting a pup out in a yard unsupervised with a system that may keep them in, but not keep others out?!?

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by FirstYorkie

Isn't that exactly what we are talking about with this system? Letting a pup out in a yard unsupervised with a system that may keep them in, but not keep others out?!?

Hmm...I guess you're right? I'm not sure...I thought this was about the system and if it would or wouldn't work in general, not just about this one point. I think we are on the same page though. I was just agreeing to the point that if using it (or not using it for that matters) opens the opportunity for someone to leave their pet in harm's way, it wasn't in the dog's best interest. I think maybe after re-reading my own post, I didn't word it like I meant it. Lol...actually at this point, I really don't know what I was trying to say. Just agreeing that owners should take responsibility to protect their dogs from this.

[FirstYorkie]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

I was just agreeing to the point that if using it (or not using it for that matters) opens the opportunity for someone to leave their pet in harm's way, it wasn't in the dog's best interest.

Well, we agree then.

I suppose it's possible that someone would have the system and still accompany the dog outside (and would therefore be alert to strangers & big dogs), it just didn't seem likely to me. It seemed like the whole point of the fence was to be able to let the pup out by himself. In which case, as we've both said, the pups is in danger.

[txshopper73]

Well as long as we've had the electric wire (even when we had our GSPs), we never had an issue of a dog or any other animal come into our yard. It's low enough to the ground that if a dog tried to dig into our yard, they will get a feel of it.

BUT, to each his own. What has worked for us may not work for others but I swear by ours.

[BamaFan121s]

Kimberley~Don't you guys have a fence too though?

[Baby Blessing]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Nor does it keep someone from coming into your yard and taking your dog.

Although I realize these are valid concerns, sorry, I have to throw this out the window as valid points to argue against this system. IMO, no dog should be allowed unsupervised in an area where predators or people would even have access to them. That's just reckless and irresponsible if you ask me. If you know that your dog isn't going anywhere, but someone or something can get it, WHY on earth would you put them in a position where that can happen?

I agree with what you said here, very very well put.

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Kimberley~Don't you guys have a fence too though?

We do here...privacy. When we lived in the country, we had horse panneling....and barbed wire on one side.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by txshopper73

We do here...privacy. When we lived in the country, we had horse panneling....and barbed wire on one side.

That's what I thought...sounds like your situation is different. You use a hot wire in addition to a fence...unless some predator (or person) is going to scale your fence or brave some barbed wire--which I'd think is highly unlikely--I wouldn't think your doggies would be in danger to being attacked or stolen.

[Janie Doyle]

I have had my invisible fence for about 8 yrs. I have 4 yorkies ranging from 6- 12 lbs and they all were properly trained (a 3 week process) and love the fee roam of the yard and stay well within their broundries.

The Original Invisable Fence Co. (there are many imitations) is the only one who is recommeded by the Humane Society for Cruelity to animals.

True it will not prevent other dogs from coming in my yard but my neighbors alll are conciouus (sp? ) people and I live on a quiet culdisac. When my k kids are out doors I look out the window at the first signs of barking.. to see what the fuss is about and never leave them out when I leave.

If you are considering a fence this is the best fence to get. They ae nation wide. If you have any questions pplease email me.


Janie

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Janie Doyle

True it will not prevent other dogs from coming in my yard but my neighbors alll are conciouus (sp? ) people and I live on a quiet culdisac.

Ahhh...considerate neighbors...that must be nice! I have neighbors who have free roaming cats that seem to think my porch is their litter box!

[diva pup]

Originally Posted by chachi

We are planning on building a house and the addition we are going to move in to doesnt allow fences so we are going to do the invisible fence. I have read up on them and they are safe to use. The dogs dont even need the collars on wonse they have learned the perimeters. The house In am in now is fenced both front and back yard ortherwise Chachi would have run off by now. We are going to put the invisible fencing in the front and back yard of the new house.

Chachi, depending on the dog, be careful. My sister has one of these for her pool area and her mini schnauzer knows where he can go when the collar is on. He also knows where he can go when it is off. And when he isn't wearing it, he is right in the pool area as soon as he hits the door. The dogs can and do figure it out eventually.