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02-22-2006, 04:18 PM | #1 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member | car seats !! please read ! Would you let small children ride in your car without a car seat or safety harness? Of course not, it goes without saying....it's not only extremely dangerous, it's outright illegal! Would it surprise you that some legislators are considering similar regulations for pets? Why? Not only is car safety for our small buddies a prime concern for devoted pet owners but your own health and safety may be in real jeopardy! A scenario for DISASTER! You are driving along and your little companion Maltese, Yorkie, Bichon or other small breed and they are excited. They are running around, standing on hind legs trying to see out the window, sniffing the air conditioning, maybe even curled up next to you...generally up for adventure. SUDDENLY.....traffic comes to an abrupt halt! Another car swerves into your path! You hit the brakes and try to steer........and you do something else! You take one hand off the wheel and reach for your beloved pet! Think, we all do it...it's the instinctive urge to protect and it's an honorable response of a caring owner BUT it's neither very effective or very safe. YOU could have been seriously hurt! And what happens to your small friends? They get thrown to the floor or bounced off the dash and you sit there shaken by your brush with disaster. It is not pleasant to think of, but pets have been known to end up under the pedals, hurled into a windshield ,or worse, in the way of an exploding airbag. http://www.malteseonly.com/buddybooster/ |
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02-22-2006, 04:27 PM | #2 |
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| Good Post!!! Pricness has her car seat. She didn't like it when she was a puppy, but if she didn't get in, she didn't go. I had a friend who lost her furbaby because she didn't use one. It was so sad, someone hit her and she lost her furbaby. Princess has a harness seat belt in her's, and if I can't click her in, we head back to the house. She knows, I won't take her, if she won't sit & click. I sure hope everyone uses one, because you never know.
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02-22-2006, 04:50 PM | #3 |
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| Gizmo has a car seat but every time I put him in it, within 3 miles he is throwing up. He will throw up 2-3 times in a 15 mile trip. When I took him to puppy class this past week end, I let him ride in my lap. I know bad mommy, but he did not throw up the entire 60 mile round trip. So what are you supose to do?
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02-22-2006, 05:00 PM | #4 |
Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado
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| I totally agree with you and am reposting where your little one should travel in the car. I am posting a couple of PM's I had with another member (with her permission) because I learned something new about the safest place in the car for your fur babies. (My PM to another member) Morning What kind of car are you driving? Does it have side impact bags? I am very nervous about my guys riding in the front seat even with their harness because of working in the car business. I actually worked for the division at one time that made airbags, scared the hell out of me. A man was killed in one of our plants when it accidentally went off - broke his neck. Of course that was before the passenger sensor so I am going to ask some of the engineers their thoughts on this and also the side impact airbags. I am also going to ask them what % of passenger bags have gone off even with no one sitting in the seat with a high impact crash. How much lead do you have on your little one from his harness to the seatbelt? I did finally break down and get the console seat as Bella would be completely out of direct line of any airbag going off. The rest of the gang rides in the back in their lookout seats Don't mean to scare you and I will let you know what I have found out. *********** Her response: Hmmm... You raise some very valid points about airbags. Yes, my car has side impact bags. It's an Audi A3 - not sure if it's in the States or not. Let me know what you find out, okay? Joey wears a special harness that attaches one end to him and the other end to the seatbelt. I'd say it's probably just about 6 inches from seatbelt to where it attaches to him. Not much wiggle room. What are thoughts on that? ******** My response: Assumption dog is already in a harness attached to a seatbelt so it is not flying through the air upon impact nor can it get loose after an accident Okay I talked to an engineer this morning (if you don't think that is difficult, engineers think with their left brains and sales (me) thinks with my right brain, you would die laughing at the conversation. But I am glad I talked to him because he taught me a few things. 1st let me say, the safest spot for your child or your fur baby is in the middle of the back seat (I didn't think about that dah) because any car needs to use the pillars to absorb the energy (cave in) coming into the car. In other words the sides will cave in as they are designed to do and if your dog is on a side it could/will be crushed. He told me that he has not heard of airbags going off in a crash on the passenger side (with sensors) but also he might not always hear as in the industry there are margins for acceptability (car talk language). Cars have sensor points at different locations on a car and if these sensors are not triggered in an accident they will not go off. Air bags are not designed to go off in every situation but I am not an expert nor do I want to get into a discussion about them. He did tell me that many of the side impact curtains are designed to go off with a side impact and protect the drivers head from smashing into the window. Many cover the whole window and down the inside of the door and now they are working to cover both front and rear passengers so all the more reason to move the dog to the middle of the car. He was not sure how far out they expanded (but this is where it gets hard for me to describe but) in an impact and you are hit on the right side first your body will go left and then it will go back to the right with an acceleration and could push the dog into the side curtain at the same time the side curtain expands and break the dogs neck. I did ask him about using the lookout console seat as it is in the middle of the car and not in the area an airbag would go off and he said that was fine. Bottom line: The safest place for your fur baby is harnessed in the middle of the car either front or back Lookout car seats have a great console model for either cars or trucks
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02-22-2006, 05:02 PM | #5 |
Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado
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| Here is one more I posted regarding traveling with your little one. This is a big thing to me. I personally like the Lookout seat the best as I don't think these little ones should be in the front seat. I was looking at getting a new Lookout Cover for my dog seats and ran across these safety tips. Thought I would share with everyone since so many people travel over the holiday. There were a few I had not thought about. 5 Reasons Your Little Dog Should Use a Lookout Car Seat and Safety Car VestHarness 1. Distraction Little dogs can provide much-needed distraction from the pressures of daily life. However, you don’t want your pet distracting you when you’re behind the wheel. The results could be disastrous--for you, your pet, and other motorists. 2. Impact Pets without restraints are just like people without seatbelts: If you slam on the brakes or hit another car, they go flying and even the strongest person can’t hold back the amount of force generated, even at slow speeds. 3. Emergencies A dog that has been in an accident is likely to be in shock, confused, and injured. They may not take kindly to rescue personnel without provocation. You can minimize this danger by properly restraining your dog. They can also be frightened and run from the accident scene. If you’re injured you can’t run after them. 4. Control Even a well-trained dog can be distracted by a squirrel or cat. If your dog is properly tethered they can’t jump out the window or chase after another animal when you open your door. 5. Comfort Imagine standing blindfolded in the back of a moving truck. That’s what the average car trip is like for your dog, a series of unexpected starts, stops, and turns. You can increase your dog’s security and comfort by giving them a boost up to see out the window and providing comfortable restraints. Dos and Don’ts... Do use restraints that offer mobility Some restraints only allow your dog to remain in a sitting position. That might be fine for a quick trip to the post office, but over a longer haul your dog should be able to sit and lie down. Lookouts come with soft Sherpa fabric that give them a soft bed for hours of commuting. Do properly fit your dog with the correct size restraint The padded Car VestHarness (#202215) has a flexible fit and a soft cloth lining. The harness slips over their head with elastic fit at the collar and only two adjustable clip buckles at the girth on the dogs’ back for their comfort. The D-Ring attaches easily to the Lookout clasp and later to their lead when you take them out of the car. There’s also a loop on the harness for seatbelt attachment when your Lookout isn’t available. Do have an I.D. tag on your dog at all times when traveling You never want them to get away from you, but if they do be sure your cell phone number and address appear on their I.D. tag. Don’t put your dog in a crate or cage In an accident a crate or cage will go flying through the air just like an unrestrained dog. If the crate itself is secured, your dog may hit against the interior walls with potentially lethal force. Don’t let them hang their head out the window without eye protection Although a dog may love to have the wind in their face, an animal can suffer eye damage and even vision loss from road debris and insects. We recommend Doggles Safety Eyewear for your little dog whenever you’re on the road. They’ll look forward to wearing them if they’re know they’re going for a ride with you
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02-22-2006, 05:08 PM | #6 |
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| Great post. We really should just be concentrate on driving when driving and not having to worry about anything else. We always use a hard carrier for our little one for her own safty. The carrier has a seat belt slot so it's really secured. I felt a lot better 'cause she is in there and won't be getting into any trouble. Plus I can totally concentrate on driving when we are on the road. Even without regulations, we should all take the responsible of keeping our pets, ourself, and everyone else safe by safely secure our pet and concentrate on driving. Sometimes, a split second can mean life and death. We don't want to go there. |
02-22-2006, 05:13 PM | #7 |
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| Awesome post!
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02-22-2006, 07:30 PM | #8 | |
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this is very important my friend thought it was ok for his golden to stick his head out the window well he got a rock imbedded in his eye from the wheels kicking up the dirt and rocks $400 later hes glad he still has his eyes | |
02-22-2006, 07:31 PM | #9 |
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02-22-2006, 07:55 PM | #10 |
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| My pup rides in his car seat in the front seat. I check with the car dealership regarding the air bag. They said if he's in his car seat - that the air bag won't come out far enough to cause him any damage. Anyway - I am often petting my little guy with my right hand as we drive along (Lord knows - we spend a lot of our time at stop lights, etc.) He threw up before I got the car seat - and never has since he has been riding in his car seat. But - his car seat is high and he's able to look out the windows and see what's going on. I remember when we were kids - we all fought to ride in front....because the ones in the front never got car sick - just the ones riding in back. Carol Jean |
02-22-2006, 07:58 PM | #11 |
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| Great post! I have been so concerned about my daughter's car seat that I totaly forgot about a car seat for Gracie! I am so glad that you started this thread! Thank you!
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02-23-2006, 11:15 AM | #12 | |
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I would start taking him for short rides. If we go for a long ride I always stop and let Princess have a break. Sometimes there's just not enough time, but I do it anyway. For the first 3-4 months, Princess didn't like car rides, but after that she has been fine with them. Gizmo is still young, maybe if you put one of your sweaters in his seat, he will feel close to you. If he was fine for a 60 mile trip on your lap, he just might be scared.
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02-23-2006, 11:33 AM | #13 |
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| I just ordered one of those Outlook car seats last week and will hopefully have it soon.
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02-23-2006, 11:44 AM | #14 |
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| I posted this on a thread about car seats a few weeks ago..... Tatum LOVES her console lookout carseat. I feel so much safer with her in it. She doesn't ride with me very often - I commute an hour each way to work every day so I don't like to travel much on the weekends. She goes for short trips "to town" occasionally though. With mine, it can stay attached to the console but slide backwards into the back seat area when I'm not using it. Does that make sense? That gets it out of the way. I told a story a while back about my car accident with my toy poodle when he was 8 weeks old. He was with me for the first time for a short ride and was running back and forth across the seats because he was so excited. Well, the worst happened - I ran off the road trying to control him, flipped the car many times and ended up across the road with the bottom of my car against a tree. Freaked us both out but fortunately we were perfectly fine (physically). Really made me nervous to drive with him after that. To make things worse, my husband would let him ride on his lap with his feet on the steering wheel so that's what he (the dog) expected from me too and I wouldn't do it. Wish I would have known about doggie carseats back then! It was my very first purchase after getting Tatum and I don't regret it one bit!
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02-23-2006, 12:09 PM | #15 |
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| TatumsMom, OMG, I am so glad you are alright! It could have been so much worse. I don't know if its true or not, but I was told by a owner of a pet store here in San Diego that if you get caught with your dog in your front seat, on your lap while you are driving- you would get a ticket. I certainly don't want to cause an accident or get a ticket, so I thought it would be best to buy a car seat. Actually it was your post I read about the Lookout Car Seat and I decided to stop taking chances and make the purchase. So Thank you!
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