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jerodancrystal · 01-15-2006, 10:00 PM

I am at a loss. I have had Kady a little less than a month and she has given me a run for my money. This little girl came with problems!!! First she had worms, tape worm, and some other paracite and the breeder would not help with the costs, in fact I called them once to tell them and I havent been able to reach them again. She is now completly healthy, my vet recommended treating both Homer & Kady so that that stuff doesnt get passed back and forth. Kady seems to be a lot more stubborn than Homer ever was. She is not doing well with the potty training on the potty pads. We have tried just about everything.... We do everything to celebrate making it on target but light fireworks

She does great one day and forgets everything for 2. Usually when I leave I put Kady in her aread that is blocked off, I feel bad because it seperates Homer and Kady from playing but then I dont have to worry about accidents all over the house. Well today I went out for a few hours and didnt lock her up.

, I got home and immediately I knew something was up....

Usually I hear the two dogs barking as I pull into the garage and Homer is waiting at the door for me.... This didnt happen. I walked in, put my bags down to see why it was so quiet, I came around the corner and Homer was in the farthest corner from me sitting and shaking... (he hates for me to be upset with him... he is VERY sensitive) and Kady was sitting on the opposite side of the room from Homer. I look down and I am looking at my carpet pulled up from the floor... row by row

Now my first instinct is OMG my husband is not going to be very happy. You see we used to live in an apartment and Homer at about a 12'x12' square up carpet up, (you could see the boards and nails underneath). This happened when was about 5 months old, and since we moved into the house with a backyard he has never done it again. This was Kady's first time home alone with out being put in her area... I know I shouldnt have done that... I just wanted them to be able to play

I just dont know who did it. If Kady has a potty accident Homer acts like he has done something wrong.. He is just a very emotional little guy. So I dont know if he is acting like he is in trouble because he knows that it is REALLY BAD to eat the carpet or what?? I just dont know what to do. When Homer ate the carpet before, he got in trouble, if Kady ate the carpet I cant say for sure that it was her so I refuse to punish either of them, but now is Homer going to think that it is ok??? I dont know what to do? I cant seem to potty train Kady and I dont want to send mixed signals to Homer.... HELP!!! I am sorry for going on and on, I just dont know where else to turn.

~Crystal~

yorkiegirl2 · 01-15-2006, 10:32 PM

Same problem but mine are eating the Linoleum.

Since I have 5 it hard to say who is doing it..
When I say who did this ..they all look guilty..
but I think it is one of the younger girls.
A teething thing

I take a fly swatter and slap the floor area and tell them NO..bad dogs..
I had to do it several time but they are starting to leave it alone NOW..thank goodness.
I have a lab that when she was young ate a chunk out of the wall.

Sherry

jerodancrystal · 01-15-2006, 10:50 PM

I will have to try that. I will also spray it with the bitter apple that is how I was able to stop Homer from doing this in the apartment. I am so exhausted!!! I never realized how different each dog is... I think Homer's personality is more like mine, and Kady's personality is more like Jerods (my husband).....

Connie · 01-15-2006, 11:03 PM

I don't know what to say about the carpet...they are probably both guilty...who knows! About the potty training, how old is Kady now? If she is still a young puppy, don't be discouraged about her not being housetrained. It takes time and for some, it takes longer than others. Be consistent and praise her again and again when she goes on the pad or outside...maybe give her a little treat as a reward. Another suggestion...maybe you could try a diaper on her...she could run around the house and you wouldn't have to worry about the carpet getting soiled, and hopefully she wouldn't wet in her diaper. Many dogs won't wet when wearing a diaper...and if she does, you could put a mini pad in it to keep from having to wash it so much.

I hope your carpet can be repaired. Maybe when you are gone, you should confine them both? I probably haven't been much help, but wanted to try because you seem frustrated and I'll say what my mom tells me when I'm frustrated..."Better days are coming!" Best wishes to you!

jerodancrystal · 01-15-2006, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Connie

I don't know what to say about the carpet...they are probably both guilty...who knows! About the potty training, how old is Kady now? If she is still a young puppy, don't be discouraged about her not being housetrained. It takes time and for some, it takes longer than others. Be consistent and praise her again and again when she goes on the pad or outside...maybe give her a little treat as a reward. Another suggestion...maybe you could try a diaper on her...she could run around the house and you wouldn't have to worry about the carpet getting soiled, and hopefully she wouldn't wet in her diaper. Many dogs won't wet when wearing a diaper...and if she does, you could put a mini pad in it to keep from having to wash it so much.

I hope your carpet can be repaired. Maybe when you are gone, you should confine them both? I probably haven't been much help, but wanted to try because you seem frustrated and I'll say what my mom tells me when I'm frustrated..."Better days are coming!" Best wishes to you!

Thanks for the advice. Kady is now 11 weeks old. I am going to try the potty pads for a few more weeks and then maybe try the diaper is she is still having a hard time. I have been sittiner here thinking and she is a lot younger than Homer was when I got him. He was 12 weeks old and probably within 3 weeks he was pretty much potty trained. The breeder I bought Homer for was already starting to potty train the pups. I am sure that the breeder I bought Kady from probably wasnt doing it, since he sold me a sick dog, at 8 weeks old! I am really glad that she came home with me, so that I know she is being taken care of and is now VERY healthy. I reward her with little treats when she uses the potty pads, my husband and I jump around and gether all excited telling her she is a good girl and give her a treat.... She finaly got the concept last weekend and proceeded to use the 3 different potty pads that there are in the house, one right after another so that she could get more treats.... We did the same routine for each perfect potty, and there were no accidents that day....The next day I think she had amnesia... and that is how she has been since!

Connie · 01-15-2006, 11:45 PM

11 weeks is very young and it will take time to get her potty trained! Homer was very exceptional to be trained at such a young age! I couldn't help but laugh when you said how she was going on the pads to get a treat! They sure are smart in that respect, huh? My Maddie wants to go outside many times more than she'd have to and I know she's just got a craving for a treat!

Gina1978 · 01-16-2006, 12:44 AM

I have 2 girls and Iv noticed that when one does something wrong,they both hide and its because they know I will be angry.
Jess is wonderful about pooping and peeing on her pad,she NEVER goes anywhere else and if ever there is a puddle on my floor,I KNOW for sure its not her (mainly because Ladys puddles are tiny)..but even so,Jess hides just in case

Lady is 2 years old and still has accidents unless confined,and of course when she does,I scold her.Well Jess doesnt like to see me angry and even though she hasnt done anything wrong,she puts her ears down and sits in her corner until she can see that Im ok.
The same thing happens vice versa.Jess used to eat my walls (they are concrete! lol) and when I used to scold her,Lady used to hide too.I guess they just dont like it when we get angry and they keep out of the way just incase.

FirstYorkie · 01-16-2006, 01:13 AM

I agree with the others! 11 weeks is far to young to expect her to be potty-trained. You just got lucky before.

As far as potty-training, continue what you are doing: praise and reward for getting it right. Do not punish (not even yelling) when she gets it wrong. If you catch her in the act, say no, and whisk her to her potty pads to finish. When she does - treat! It will take a while but she WILL get it eventually if you are consistent (and watch her like a hawk!).

I agree with Gina that hiding or cowering doesn't imply guilt. It means that they fear punishment. If you didn't catch them in the act, there isn't anything that you can do about it.

I'd definitely keep the puppy contained until she is fully housebroken. If you think it's possible that Homer is being destructive, then I'd contain him, too!

jerodancrystal · 01-16-2006, 06:44 AM

I Found the culprit!!!! She is 11 weeks old & her name is Kady!!! at 6:15 this morning when we were getting up she used her potty pads!!!! YAY!!!!

At 6:30am I heard her growling so I went into the livinging room and she was fighting with my carpet ( I think the carpet made her mad about something

) I picked her up and told her no and put her in her confined area... she doesnt like to be in there when I am home. When I told her know... her little ears went down... I almost wanted to cry for her

but i was strong... she was only in there a few min. She is still too young to be in time out for too long. We are going to keep working on the potty training... I just have to say I am sure glad that it is the puppy that was chewing the carpet, not Homer because that means.... he has learned his lesson and there is real hope for her too....

KimMee's Mom · 01-16-2006, 07:09 AM

I also think Kady is too young to be expected to be potty trained. I didn't trust my girl until she was six months old. As a matter of fact- last night she ran at top speed to the door and peed before I could get it open and she is 17 months old. Maybe Homer

is the exceptional one and Kady will take more time to train. good luck with the carpet chewing

jerodancrystal · 01-16-2006, 05:37 PM

Thanks, I guess I have been spoiled with Homer and now I am learning how puppies can be a lot of work! Thanks so much!

mustangbee · 01-16-2006, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerodancrystal

Thanks, I guess I have been spoiled with Homer and now I am learning how puppies can be a lot of work! Thanks so much!

They are a lot of work!
But their hearts are solid gold!
Hang in there!!!

SnowWa · 01-16-2006, 06:02 PM

As far as the carpet goes - since you don't know who did it - you're doing the right thing by not punishing either one. But - you can still look at the carpet (without paying any particular attention to either dog) -- and show a lot of displeasure.

My one sweet little dog that would never go to the bathroom in the house (unless she was sick or absolutely couldn't help it) was also very sensitive.
If either dog or the cat had an accident, and it wasn't her -- she still hid under the bed for an hour or so. And, of course, the little culprit that did it - couldn't care less.

My sensitive little dog would even take the other dog's poop and carry it piece by piece and put it by the back door ---and then go hide. She was something else again.

The things you are describing are things a lot of us have experienced with pets -- or with children for that matter! I guess a little of this comes with the territory. Unfortunately - and it's hard to guess ahead of time what they might do. But - I agree - the carpet thing is bad, bad, bad....

Hang in there! I really think dogs get better when they get a little older.

Carol Jean

01-15-2006, 10:00 PM	#1
jerodancrystal Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 57	Who gets the blame??? I am at a loss. I have had Kady a little less than a month and she has given me a run for my money. This little girl came with problems!!! First she had worms, tape worm, and some other paracite and the breeder would not help with the costs, in fact I called them once to tell them and I havent been able to reach them again. She is now completly healthy, my vet recommended treating both Homer & Kady so that that stuff doesnt get passed back and forth. Kady seems to be a lot more stubborn than Homer ever was. She is not doing well with the potty training on the potty pads. We have tried just about everything.... We do everything to celebrate making it on target but light fireworks She does great one day and forgets everything for 2. Usually when I leave I put Kady in her aread that is blocked off, I feel bad because it seperates Homer and Kady from playing but then I dont have to worry about accidents all over the house. Well today I went out for a few hours and didnt lock her up. , I got home and immediately I knew something was up.... Usually I hear the two dogs barking as I pull into the garage and Homer is waiting at the door for me.... This didnt happen. I walked in, put my bags down to see why it was so quiet, I came around the corner and Homer was in the farthest corner from me sitting and shaking... (he hates for me to be upset with him... he is VERY sensitive) and Kady was sitting on the opposite side of the room from Homer. I look down and I am looking at my carpet pulled up from the floor... row by row Now my first instinct is OMG my husband is not going to be very happy. You see we used to live in an apartment and Homer at about a 12'x12' square up carpet up, (you could see the boards and nails underneath). This happened when was about 5 months old, and since we moved into the house with a backyard he has never done it again. This was Kady's first time home alone with out being put in her area... I know I shouldnt have done that... I just wanted them to be able to play I just dont know who did it. If Kady has a potty accident Homer acts like he has done something wrong.. He is just a very emotional little guy. So I dont know if he is acting like he is in trouble because he knows that it is REALLY BAD to eat the carpet or what?? I just dont know what to do. When Homer ate the carpet before, he got in trouble, if Kady ate the carpet I cant say for sure that it was her so I refuse to punish either of them, but now is Homer going to think that it is ok??? I dont know what to do? I cant seem to potty train Kady and I dont want to send mixed signals to Homer.... HELP!!! I am sorry for going on and on, I just dont know where else to turn. ~Crystal~ __________________ Crystal , Homer 1 yr & Kady 11 weeks

01-15-2006, 10:50 PM	#3
jerodancrystal Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 57	I will have to try that. I will also spray it with the bitter apple that is how I was able to stop Homer from doing this in the apartment. I am so exhausted!!! I never realized how different each dog is... I think Homer's personality is more like mine, and Kady's personality is more like Jerods (my husband)..... __________________ Crystal , Homer 1 yr & Kady 11 weeks

01-15-2006, 11:03 PM	#4
Connie Loved by Maddie & Libby Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Dakota Posts: 10,732	I don't know what to say about the carpet...they are probably both guilty...who knows! About the potty training, how old is Kady now? If she is still a young puppy, don't be discouraged about her not being housetrained. It takes time and for some, it takes longer than others. Be consistent and praise her again and again when she goes on the pad or outside...maybe give her a little treat as a reward. Another suggestion...maybe you could try a diaper on her...she could run around the house and you wouldn't have to worry about the carpet getting soiled, and hopefully she wouldn't wet in her diaper. Many dogs won't wet when wearing a diaper...and if she does, you could put a mini pad in it to keep from having to wash it so much. I hope your carpet can be repaired. Maybe when you are gone, you should confine them both? I probably haven't been much help, but wanted to try because you seem frustrated and I'll say what my mom tells me when I'm frustrated..."Better days are coming!" Best wishes to you! __________________ Custom doggie dresses and vests Memory is a country where I can go to see your face - but where do I go when I miss your embrace?

01-15-2006, 11:45 PM	#6
Connie Loved by Maddie & Libby Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Dakota Posts: 10,732	11 weeks is very young and it will take time to get her potty trained! Homer was very exceptional to be trained at such a young age! I couldn't help but laugh when you said how she was going on the pads to get a treat! They sure are smart in that respect, huh? My Maddie wants to go outside many times more than she'd have to and I know she's just got a craving for a treat! __________________ Custom doggie dresses and vests Memory is a country where I can go to see your face - but where do I go when I miss your embrace?

01-16-2006, 01:13 AM	#8
FirstYorkie YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: American in London Posts: 1,739	I agree with the others! 11 weeks is far to young to expect her to be potty-trained. You just got lucky before. As far as potty-training, continue what you are doing: praise and reward for getting it right. Do not punish (not even yelling) when she gets it wrong. If you catch her in the act, say no, and whisk her to her potty pads to finish. When she does - treat! It will take a while but she WILL get it eventually if you are consistent (and watch her like a hawk!). I agree with Gina that hiding or cowering doesn't imply guilt. It means that they fear punishment. If you didn't catch them in the act, there isn't anything that you can do about it. I'd definitely keep the puppy contained until she is fully housebroken. If you think it's possible that Homer is being destructive, then I'd contain him, too! __________________ FirstYorkie We Love Clicker-Training!

01-15-2006, 10:32 PM	#2
yorkiegirl2 YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,394	Same problem but mine are eating the Linoleum. Since I have 5 it hard to say who is doing it.. When I say who did this ..they all look guilty.. but I think it is one of the younger girls. A teething thing I take a fly swatter and slap the floor area and tell them NO..bad dogs.. I had to do it several time but they are starting to leave it alone NOW..thank goodness. I have a lab that when she was young ate a chunk out of the wall. Sherry

01-16-2006, 12:44 AM	#7
Gina1978 BANNED! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Majorca Posts: 163	I have 2 girls and Iv noticed that when one does something wrong,they both hide and its because they know I will be angry. Jess is wonderful about pooping and peeing on her pad,she NEVER goes anywhere else and if ever there is a puddle on my floor,I KNOW for sure its not her (mainly because Ladys puddles are tiny)..but even so,Jess hides just in case Lady is 2 years old and still has accidents unless confined,and of course when she does,I scold her.Well Jess doesnt like to see me angry and even though she hasnt done anything wrong,she puts her ears down and sits in her corner until she can see that Im ok. The same thing happens vice versa.Jess used to eat my walls (they are concrete! lol) and when I used to scold her,Lady used to hide too.I guess they just dont like it when we get angry and they keep out of the way just incase.

01-16-2006, 06:44 AM	#9
jerodancrystal Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 57	Guilty!!! I Found the culprit!!!! She is 11 weeks old & her name is Kady!!! at 6:15 this morning when we were getting up she used her potty pads!!!! YAY!!!! At 6:30am I heard her growling so I went into the livinging room and she was fighting with my carpet ( I think the carpet made her mad about something ) I picked her up and told her no and put her in her confined area... she doesnt like to be in there when I am home. When I told her know... her little ears went down... I almost wanted to cry for her but i was strong... she was only in there a few min. She is still too young to be in time out for too long. We are going to keep working on the potty training... I just have to say I am sure glad that it is the puppy that was chewing the carpet, not Homer because that means.... he has learned his lesson and there is real hope for her too.... __________________ Crystal , Homer 1 yr & Kady 11 weeks

01-16-2006, 07:09 AM	#10
KimMee's Mom Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,857	I also think Kady is too young to be expected to be potty trained. I didn't trust my girl until she was six months old. As a matter of fact- last night she ran at top speed to the door and peed before I could get it open and she is 17 months old. Maybe Homer is the exceptional one and Kady will take more time to train. good luck with the carpet chewing

01-16-2006, 05:37 PM	#11
jerodancrystal Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 57	Thanks, I guess I have been spoiled with Homer and now I am learning how puppies can be a lot of work! Thanks so much! __________________ Crystal , Homer 1 yr & Kady 11 weeks

01-16-2006, 06:02 PM	#13
SnowWa YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,992	As far as the carpet goes - since you don't know who did it - you're doing the right thing by not punishing either one. But - you can still look at the carpet (without paying any particular attention to either dog) -- and show a lot of displeasure. My one sweet little dog that would never go to the bathroom in the house (unless she was sick or absolutely couldn't help it) was also very sensitive. If either dog or the cat had an accident, and it wasn't her -- she still hid under the bed for an hour or so. And, of course, the little culprit that did it - couldn't care less. My sensitive little dog would even take the other dog's poop and carry it piece by piece and put it by the back door ---and then go hide. She was something else again. The things you are describing are things a lot of us have experienced with pets -- or with children for that matter! I guess a little of this comes with the territory. Unfortunately - and it's hard to guess ahead of time what they might do. But - I agree - the carpet thing is bad, bad, bad.... Hang in there! I really think dogs get better when they get a little older. Carol Jean __________________ http://tinypic.com/ipxhmb.jpg A Yorkie is worth a thousand words.