Scared about how big my puppy will be

[luvlee]

Originally Posted by amyazer

SHes not a biologist! Every doctor ive met says mixed breeds are better health wise and my research...im not talking about breeders and how they breed bad lines because you can breed a bad line in a pure breed and mixed breed...however mixed breeds have lesser health issues its proven...breeders that r saying its soo wrong to breed mixed breeds is because they want people to continue buying pure breeds! what would akc do if mixed breeds where suddenly what people wanted... for people that r soo intelligent your closing your eyes!

None of this chest puffing matters. The person breeding the mixes (who you like) isn't a geneticist either. I hope you expended as much energy/effort questioning her credentials & program & the genetics of the dogs she put together as you are exerting here on YT.

Do you really KNOW the pedigree/genetic history of that person's sires/dams? Did you ever really want to know?

When you adopt a "mix" pup from a shelter, you're taking that pup without knowing its history. That's part of the deal. When you BUY a pup deliberately bred to look a certain way, it is incumbent upon YOU to obtain its complete pedigree & history from the "breeder." You have to know the lines going way back of all the breeds used.

You had the opportunity to find out everything. I hope you did.

[amyazer]

luvlee actually i do know where my puppy came from i have her record from previous generations

[MishyMish]

As others have mentioned, puppies will grow at different rates. Your pup if a purebred, will range about 6 or more pounds. My pup was just under that I think. He is just under 4 pounds now and he is about 7 months now.

It doesn't matter the size as long as their healthy.

[TxVicki]

Originally Posted by amyazer

I have my views and Believe in them. The fact that no one hear can have a debate on anything just proves how one tracked minded you all are. Trying to convince me of something i do not agree with is by far manipulative. I approve of mixed breeding. Period.

Well this just proves the saying, Never mind, I don't want to be banned.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by amyazer

yorkietalkjilly you can have a plan for mixed breeding too

But not the long, proven lines going back generations with the same genetic probabilities that you can anticipate with breeding like-to-like due to such variety in size, color, coat types, temperament, ear set, placement of limb, length of neck, back, legs, muzzle, etc., that you can anticipate in same-breed pairings. But when you provide the credible proof of lesser health issues you spoke of, we can all see what you are talking about and change our thinking. If there are sufficient credible studies, peer reviewed, and clearly showing that mixed-breed dogs are healthier then purebred, I'm sure we all are ready to read them and change our minds about which is healthier. And then there is the worry about temperament and what to expect in mixed-breed dogs. Until then, I, for one, have to go with what reputable breeders and current conventional wisdom tell me about purebreds and a carefully planned breeding program based on genetic probabilities over that of mixing breeds however well-planned. I'm open-minded, though, and really do want to know of there is a better way to get healthier toy dogs. I love the Yorkie breed but if I could know with some degree of certainty that a certain mixed breed line is going to fairly reliably produce dogs that are far healthier, I'm interested for sure.

Regarding your post about being a biologist first, above, I said "a geneticist is a biologist who..................."

As a breeder though, I wouldn't care nearly as much about the biologist background as much as the genetics knowledge when I'm studying heredity and variations of genetic development for breeding - I'm interested in someone who can think beyond biology and go into heredity and how it can or cannot vary from the genetics of the lines in play in the current breeding for betterment of the breed.

[amyazer]

Only one here who is respectful is yorkietalkjilly and actually is debating...thanks for being respectful and yet passionate in what you believe

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by amyazer

Only one here who is respectful is yorkietalkjilly and actually is debating...thanks for being respectful and yet passionate in what you believe

Your not being respectful so why in the word would you expect people to be respectful to you?

[msyorktown]

Originally Posted by amyazer

gemy you obviously dont know anything about genetics no offense

This statement in itself is downright rude!!!

Originally Posted by amyazer

Only one here who is respectful is yorkietalkjilly and actually is debating...thanks for being respectful and yet passionate in what you believe

The disrespect came from you, how do you expect to get respect when you yourself don't give it?!

[luvlee]

Originally Posted by amyazer

luvlee actually i do know where my puppy came from i have her record from previous generations

Well, I'd be quite surprised if the "breeder" actually supplied not only the sire/dam pedigree of the dog you purchased but of the lines of all the animals that have been deliberately put into your dog.

That would be a monumental task.

[amyazer]

Another caveat, that just because you mix a supposed hyp0-allergenic dog with another breed that is not hypoallergenic, that the coat will always be of the hypo-allergenic type. I say BALDERDASH to that assumption.

that was one of gemy's statements one that i disagree with...and she had said alot of other things that for one i do not agree with...so i felt it was disrespectful because (unlike yorkietalkjillie who has been talking in respectfulll way) gemy really wasnt respecting my views using terminology such as Balderdash...that is why i said she isnt not a geneticist...I wasnt being rude just stating a fact

[gemy]

balder dash.

[amyazer]

Thanks all for proving my point

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by amyazer

SHes not a biologist! Every doctor ive met says mixed breeds are better health wise and my research...im not talking about breeders and how they breed bad lines because you can breed a bad line in a pure breed and mixed breed...however mixed breeds have lesser health issues its proven...breeders that r saying its soo wrong to breed mixed breeds is because they want people to continue buying pure breeds! what would akc do if mixed breeds where suddenly what people wanted... for people that r soo intelligent your closing your eyes!

Are these the same vets that say its ok to breed a 3 pound female and then release the pups at 8 weeks?

And you disagree that mixing a so-called hypo- allergenic dog with another breed won't always result in a so-called hypo-allergenic dog? Well then, shall we ask my neighbor with the labradoodle that crazy?

When you mix 2 breeds, you are not creating a new breed. Just a mutt. It takes at least 3 different mixes to create a new genetic makeup. And then that dog has to be bred with other dogs of the same genetic makeup for it to be called a breed.

I've had mixed breeds who were healthy. I've also had (and currently have) a mixed breed who has an inherited disorder that is very rare in each of the breeds she comes from, but has a higher prevalence when this so called "designer" dog is bred.

I have to agree with others who have said on this thread. You have no desire to learn about proper breeding techniques; only to defend the fact that you either purchased or breed mutts.

[amyazer]

If you think vets are not educated then please dont take your animals there when they are in need of medical care

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by amyazer

If you think vets are not educated then please dont take your animals there when they are in need of medical care

That was really a stupid statement.

Vets know about treating illnesses but very, very little about breeding and genetics. It's not part of their training.