Scared about how big my puppy will be

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by gemy

LoL of course Lisa you would recognize those few ole English words.

Let us see, do you think we can get through the six or is it 5 stanzas? Without resort to Google

I will start. I hope with the first verse.

Beware the Jabberwock my son,
Beware the Jubjub bird,
And shun the frumious Bandersnatch.

Go on, am loving it.

[ColesMommy01]

So this breeder that I named who is AKC, has nothing but AKC dams/sires and by this puppies is not reputable? How so? The breeder is very nice and keeps her home(where she keeps her animals) impeccable! I did not get a puppy from her because I found another breeder Ithat I liked better , but I would recommend her to others that were looking into getting one. This breeder:

1) Asked me many questions about my family life/routine
2) Is AKC
3) Treats her animals like her children
4) Home is SPOTLESS
5) Dams have their own birthing room
6) Traces her dogs pedigrees
7) Does all the recommended genetic testing for this breed
8) Feeds her animals some of the best food available
9)Dogs are very social with no tempermant issues from my interaction with them

What else would she need to do to be considered reputable? As I stated earlier in this thread not EVERYONE who uses the term "teacup" is uneducated, a byb, or out to scam you. The word is based on the context in which you use it. It is not very popular on this forum based on what the breed club says. I don't see anywhere within the club's website/guidelines where the term teapot is accepted either but others use it so freely here without any type of backlash. Yes, I understand negative connotations can come up when using the term but to some who use the term."teacup" and own a Yorkie it is just a cute adjective for them to use like the word "teapot"

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Go on, am loving it.

wait is this cockney rhyming?

[gemy]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

wait is this cockney rhyming?

Mayhap. Lewis Carroll poem in Alice through the Looking Glass.

I loved the nonsense in my young person's mind. And all the words just rolled off your tongue

[gemy]

I will wait for Lisa to post the next verse, although there is another verse I am thinking of; that maybe started the poem.

It goes a bit of it that is: Twas brillig and the slihty toads

Did........

[lisaly]

Originally Posted by gemy

LoL of course Lisa you would recognize those few ole English words.

Let us see, do you think we can get through the six or is it 5 stanzas? Without resort to Google

I will start. I hope with the first verse.

Beware the Jabberwock my son,
Beware the Jubjub bird,
And shun the frumious Bandersnatch.

I remember a lot of the beginning, which is amazing because I have a terrible memory for these things. I know it's not right, but it's all I remember.

It began, "'twas brillig was the slithey toves. Did gyre and gamble momes in the wabe
All misty were the borogroves
And the nomes wrath outgrabe

Beware of the Jabberwocky, my friend
The jaws that bite the claws that catch
Beware of the jube jube bird, the glorious bandersnatch

I know the first verse repeats and is in the end of Lewis Carroll's poem, but I don't remember the middle. I'm sure you know more, Gail.

[P-Nut Mom]

Originally Posted by lisaly

I remember a lot of the beginning, which is amazing because I have a terrible memory for these things. I know it's not right, but it's all I remember.

It began, "'twas brillig was the slithey toves. Did gyre and gamble momes in the wabe
All misty were the borogroves
And the nomes wrath outgrabe

Beware of the Jabberwocky, my friend
The jaws that bite the claws that catch
Beware of the jube jube bird, the glorious bandersnatch

I know the first verse repeats and is in the end of Lewis Carroll's poem, but I don't remember the middle. I'm sure you know more, Gail.

So close, hee! It goes like this: " twas brillig and the slithey toves
did gyre and gimble in the wabe
All mimsy were the borogoves
And the mome rathes outgrabe."

I named one of my first cats Mimsy when I was young.

I had to translate the poem in college...that was fun!

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by ColesMommy01

I just wanted to give y'all a heads up and say there ARE some AKC breeders out there that use the term "teacup".....I found this breeder Maria Campos's website Home Page on the AKC's website even I was looking for a breeder that had available pups. I'm not trying to join the debate because I understand everyone's viewpoints that have been respectful in their correspondance, but I remember someone asking for an AKC breeder that uses the term.

No we where asking for reputable breeders who use the term many many people even puppy mills will breed AKC dogs

[lisaly]

Originally Posted by P-Nut Mom

Hee -it's " twas brillig and the slithey toves
did gyre and gimble in the wabe
All mimsy were the borogroves
And the mome rathes outgrabe."

I named one of my first cats Mimsy when I was young.

I had to translate the poem in college...that was fun!

You're right about mimsy. I thought I found all the words my iPad overwrote.

[P-Nut Mom]

p.s. all I remember is "brillig" is late afternoon, "mimsy" is messy/miserable looking and mome rathes are green pigs...

[P-Nut Mom]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

No we where asking for reputable breeders who use the term many many people even puppy mills will breed AKC dogs

She breeds dogs to be under 3lbs full grown and uses the word "teacup" everywhere. Just because she SAYS she's AKC doesn't make her reputable.

[P-Nut Mom]

Originally Posted by lisaly

You're right about mimsy. I thought I found all the words my iPad overwrote.

This must be driving the iPad nuts and my spell check was freaking out!

[lisaly]

It was, and I didn't remember it perfectly, but I knew more than what it produced. I should have gone back and checked it. I was trying to do two things at once. I love the auto correct feature, but not in this case. I knew the second line, but the iPad messed it up. It's not important, just frustrating.

[amyazer]

The way to start a good mixed breeding program is by getting two Akc pure breds that have great bloodlines...say i wanted to start breeding good lines thats how i would do it...no one hear can disagree with that...ALL of you are confusing puppymills and brokers for what Im saying your assuming that these mixed breed lines arent accounting for. now if i was a bb then yes i would just take any two dogs and breed them together this is a person trying to use dogs as profit gain however when a person is interested in genuinely breeding mixed dogs together to explore the genetic gene pool that is a different situation. You mixed the two situations up bb breeders and a knowledgeable breeder (AKC or not)...

[amyazer]

It’s hard to understand why people cannot simply look at the health pros and cons of any breed or mixed breed of dog and come to the logical conclusions rather than get on the band wagon promoting their favorite breed and ignore scientific evidence. While I am a strong advocate of crossbreeding as the simplest and fastest way to improve genetic diversity, I cringe at people crossing two different breeds of dog simply because the combination of the two parent breeds names will make a cute new name. Crossbreeding should be used to create genetically stronger, healthier dogs.
Another factor to be considered in crossbreeding is that a genetic cause for a certain “disease” in one breed may be caused by an entirely different set of genes in another breed, thus even if the parents of a mixed breed dog each carry a gene for that disability, they (the genes) may be unlikely to pair up and cause the problem in the resulting offspring. When I cross dogs of different breeds I not only consider how well the mix of the two breeds will complement each other, but also how far apart the breeds are genetically. When I cross Irish wolfhound and Alaskan malamute I believe I am introducing relatively unrelated genes that have not been in the same animal for thousands of years. But if I were to cross my Irish wolfhounds with Scottish deerhounds I might well be recombining unwanted genes that were found in a common founding ancestor of both breeds.
Though I personally have no interest in dog shows, I don’t believe it’s actually the show ring that is destroying registered breeds of dogs, but the closed pedigree system required by the breed clubs such as the AKC. When I breed show pigeons or chickens I can cross any breed I want into my birds and as long as the resulting offspring meet the “breed standard” they can win in a show. If this type of breeding program were practiced with dogs, new, badly needed genetic material could be introduced into any breed and the resulting puppies that meet the breed standard could still be shown, and any puppies that didn’t meet the standard could become family pets. If people are insistent on breeding dogs for show purposes this is the only sensible and sane way to go about it. We must do away with the closed registry system. At the same time breed clubs must also rewrite the standards of some breeds, especially for brachycephalic dogs, so they do no harm to individual animals.