Scared about how big my puppy will be

[yorkietalkjilly]

Truly, like I posted elsewhere, the puppies on the Angel Dog website look just like the puppies in the small dog section of any local Animal Shelter except for far, far less money and sans the impossible and outlandish claims of solving certain health problems and creating permanent puppies.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by ColesMommy01

So this breeder that I named who is AKC, has nothing but AKC dams/sires and by this puppies is not reputable? How so? The breeder is very nice and keeps her home(where she keeps her animals) impeccable! I did not get a puppy from her because I found another breeder Ithat I liked better , but I would recommend her to others that were looking into getting one. This breeder:

1) Asked me many questions about my family life/routine
2) Is AKC
3) Treats her animals like her children
4) Home is SPOTLESS
5) Dams have their own birthing room
6) Traces her dogs pedigrees
7) Does all the recommended genetic testing for this breed
8) Feeds her animals some of the best food available
9)Dogs are very social with no tempermant issues from my interaction with them

What else would she need to do to be considered reputable? As I stated earlier in this thread not EVERYONE who uses the term "teacup" is uneducated, a byb, or out to scam you. The word is based on the context in which you use it. It is not very popular on this forum based on what the breed club says. I don't see anywhere within the club's website/guidelines where the term teapot is accepted either but others use it so freely here without any type of backlash. Yes, I understand negative connotations can come up when using the term but to some who use the term."teacup" and own a Yorkie it is just a cute adjective for them to use like the word "teapot"

The word teacup was invented by puppy mills and bad breeders. This women is also breeding females under 5 pounds and the puppies are listed as products on her website! I noticed no prices where listed so what i she selling these dogs for $2,000 or $3,000. Not a reputable breeder a reputable breeder follows the mother club to a T.

[lisaly]

If you start off on a different foot, Amy, I'm sure you will see what a loving community YT is. We will do anything to help dogs, whether they are purebred Yorkies or not Yorkies at all, and the people who love them. You will see people rush in to help with questions, problems, or anything else, even if it's not dog related at all. YT is a passionate and compassionate group who hurt when we see dogs or people exploited. As in any group of people, we have varied opinions, but that's what makes it interesting , and it also helps us to learn and grow. Even after having dogs all of my life, I still make mistakes with Katie, but I am committed to being the best mom I can be to her, and I continually want to learn. Three years ago, when I lost my little angel at the Rainbow Bridge, Ashley, when she was seventeen, I still remained part of this community. I was attached to the people and the pups here. We are not just names on a computer screen. We really care about each other and are an extended family.

[amyazer]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Truly, like I posted elsewhere, the puppies on the Angel Dog website look just like the puppies in the small dog section of any local Animal Shelter except for far, far less money and sans the impossible and outlandish claims of solving certain health problems and creating permanent puppies.

Well that where i bought my puppy from...yorkoftheshire is supposedly supposed to go there so you cant judge until she comes back

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by amyazer

Well that where i bought my puppy from...yorkoftheshire is supposedly supposed to go there so you cant judge until she comes back

uhhhh yeah we can just because someone may have a good set up doesn't make them a good breeder. Breeding to better the breed and following the breed club to a T is what makes a good breeder. I am sorry you got taken but at least you will know better in the future. We all make mistakes.

[Gillykat]

Originally Posted by amyazer

Purebred-A x Purebred-B = F1 Hybrid Dog

F1 x Purebred-A = F1b Hybrid Dog

F1 x F1 = F2 Hybrid Dog

F1 x F1b = F2b Hybrid Dog

F2 x F2 = F3 Hybrid Dog

A true hybrid would be, say, a wolf crossed with a dog: hybrid = two different species! ie horse + donkey = mule/hinny (depending on who the sire is).

Yorkie + Maltese = Crossbreed (or F1 if you prefer) (aka Morkie to make folks pay more!)

F1 + F1 = MONGREL!!!!!!!! And as to F2, F3 and F4's......just even MORE mixed-up mongrels Lovely dogs in themselves BUT don't give them a fancy name and an even fancier price tag As I said earlier, there's over 350+ perfectly good pedigree dogs so SURELY there must be the right breed for everyone There's just no need to continue breeding more for money.....nothing else!

How folks can sleep at night KNOWING they are deliberately breeding all these mongrel puppies - especially if they deliberately go for smaller and smaller sizes - when there are MILLIONS of perfectly healthy mongrels & crossbreeds in shelters all around the world who would love a home. God, give these rescue dogs a silly name if you will but DON'T encourage the breeding of more by going to these greeders who prey on idiots with fat cheque books!

[amyazer]

Originally Posted by lisaly

If you start off on a different foot, Amy, I'm sure you will see what a loving community YT is. We will do anything to help dogs, whether they are purebred Yorkies or not Yorkies at all, and the people who love them. You will see people rush in to help with questions, problems, or anything else, even if it's not dog related at all. YT is a passionate and compassionate group who hurt when we see dogs or people exploited. As in any group of people, we have varied opinions, but that's what makes it interesting , and it also helps us to learn and grow. Even after having dogs all of my life, I still make mistakes with Katie, but I am committed to being the best mom I can be to her, and I continually want to learn. Three years ago, when I lost my little angel at the Rainbow Bridge, Ashley, when she was seventeen, I still remained part of this community. I was attached to the people and the pups here. We are not just names on a computer screen. We really care about each other and are an extended family.

Hopefully we can start of on a better foot...i

[lauren_f]

Originally Posted by Bentleysmommie

I do love my dog no matter the size but when you pay over 2k for a teacup and you receive a puppy that's a toy. Im sure your pretty upset!

*facepalm*

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by lauren_f

*facepalm*

many, many, many times!

[normarae63]

Originally Posted by lauren_f

*facepalm*

To be fair to the OP & the subject of your quote, your quote was from 3/27.
A LOT of discussion has taken place since then.

[lauren_f]

Originally Posted by normarae63

To be fair to the OP & the subject of your quote, your quote was from 3/27.
A LOT of discussion has taken place since then.

Just got up to page 20. Still feel the same way. I've owned two Yorkies both of which I've gotten from rescue groups. BOTH dogs came from puppy mill/backyard breeder situations. Craigslist breaks my heart because of all the mixed breed puppies people are trying to sell for "a $350 rehoming fee". I've been into a few shelters recently and seen nothing but chihuahua mixes, poodle mixes, pug mixes & doxie mixes. I can't believe there are people out there that are selling them as puppies for $1500 each.

[normarae63]

Oh, I know Lauren.

Neither of my two are from a perfect breeder either. Tuffy came from a person who represented themselves as the owner; a broker. Just as we were getting set to get him, I found YT. Bella came from people who show their dogs but luckily for me she ended up "too big to show".

[ColesMommy01]

I find her pricing for the puppies to be quite competitive. Her females start at $1200(pet quality/limited registration) and $1500(show/breeding quality)Males start at $1000. For a puppy that comes with AKC papers and has been raised in an excellent environment I find those prices quite reasonable. She aims to have smaller pups that are healthy but definitely has those projected to be within the 4 lb range and above. The female I saw that she was breeding at the time was within the 5lb range she was just known to give birth to pups on the small side 5lbs or less. I respectfully agree to disagree with you on this topic using the term "teacup" does not put "me off" a breeder as long as I see that they are doing everything else correct.

[lauren_f]

I don't understand what the fascination is with having a super tiny dog. My first Yorkie, Iggy was only 4lbs but he thought he was 100lbs. He never wanted to be carried in a purse or bag. He was very independent and liked going on long walks and hikes. He did not like to be cuddled and dressed up in cute outfits. He whined a TON in the car and was not a great traveler despite his size which is the usual excuse given when someone wants such a small dog.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by ColesMommy01

I find her pricing for the puppies to be quite competitive. Her females start at $1200(pet quality/limited registration) and $1500(show/breeding quality)Males start at $1000. For a puppy that comes with AKC papers and has been raised in an excellent environment I find those prices quite reasonable. She aims to have smaller pups that are healthy but definitely has those projected to be within the 4 lb range and above. The female I saw that she was breeding at the time was within the 5lb range she was just known to give birth to pups on the small side 5lbs or less. I respectfully agree to disagree with you on this topic using the term "teacup" does not put "me off" a breeder as long as I see that they are doing everything else correct.

What site are you looking at?