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MandiesMom · 03-11-2013, 10:49 AM

Unless it is AKC (no other letters), it is basically a paper registry and just about anybody can register any dog and claim they are purebred.

The fact that she sent that pic of the parent, tells me that she honestly believes she has purebred yorkies. She isn't faking you out with pics of pure yorkies. She sent the real pic of the parent. That tells me that she is probably misinformed and not actually trying to fraud you.

Your Minnie is part yorkie. I see that in her. So you have a yorkie...it's just mixed with something. As a matter of fact, I read recently about red legged yorkies (look into pics of those when you get a chance). There is a chance the parent's pic you showed is one. I'm not versed enough in them to know.

gracielove · 03-11-2013, 10:53 AM

I agree with Yorkietalkjilly. Dishonest breeders will switch litter registration slips around and they do it very easily. AKC is the only reputable organization to register dogs in the US but the registration is only as good as the breeder is reputable.

This breeder appears to have royally ripped you off. Consider doing the DNA testing and reporting her to the AKC. After you get your DNA results either write or call her to let her know that you are aware of what she is doing and are going to report her. Someone as brazen as this probably will be prepared to fight you but don't back down. When people walk away from something like this it only encourages the disreputable breeder to continue doing this.

There is a small chance that this could have been the result of an unplanned breeding with a Chi or Min Pin but a Yorkie breeder would certainly have known by the time she sold you that puppy that it was not a full bred Yorkie.

I'm sorry this happened to you. There are all kinds out there The popularity of the Yorkie has caused a lot of greedy people to start breeding them.

nanahas3 · 03-11-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MandiesMom

Unless it is AKC (no other letters), it is basically a paper registry and just about anybody can register any dog and claim they are purebred.

The fact that she sent that pic of the parent, tells me that she honestly believes she has purebred yorkies. She isn't faking you out with pics of pure yorkies. She sent the real pic of the parent. That tells me that she is probably misinformed and not actually trying to fraud you.

Your Minnie is part yorkie. I see that in her. So you have a yorkie...it's just mixed with something. As a matter of fact, I read recently about red legged yorkies (look into pics of those when you get a chance). There is a chance the parent's pic you showed is one. I'm not versed enough in them to know.

Even red legged yorkies are fluffy as pups. I see min pin in this little pup. My sis has them and this little one looks an awful lot like hers did as pups.

MandiesMom · 03-11-2013, 11:13 AM

Yeah, I didn't know if they were or not. I just knew their hair is coarse (or hard) and grows slow and sparse. Thought that parent's pic may have some characteristics of some I've seen (and some I just researched right now). From researching just now, I'm leaning more away from red legged and I see jack russel in the nose of this parent. (not in the pup but the parent)

OP - just so you know some of the things I was looking at in my research on the red legged, it was these 2 threads:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ed-yorkie.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...ed-yorkie.html

With all of that said - I still don't think the seller/breeder was trying to fraud you on purpose or would not have considered sending that pic of the parent. Everything is not always black and white.

divinemissm · 03-11-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Calypso

Looks like a mix to me for sure. Can you be certain the parents she showed you we indeed the parents to that pup? I saw a case once where the pup sold and parents to the pup were shown and turned out the dad was not the dad.

We always have to be careful when dealing with breeders who are not honest just because a dog is akc does not mean its possibly purebred dishonest breeders over the years have learned how to "hang" papers on different dogs usually they have two or more litters born at the same time and then take papers from the purebred litter and hang it on the mixed breed litter. In The Cat Fanciers Association in was done all of time. Millie

nanahas3 · 03-11-2013, 11:30 AM

I have been told by several including my vet that Laddy is a redlegged yorkie but I was never sure either. Below is a picture of him as a pup and he still has redder more than gold on him other than his topnot. His fur is slow growing but he has plenty of it. He was 5 months around same age as the OP's pup in this picture. His ears grow very little hair also. Only need trimmed every 2 or 3 months and never need shaved.

MandiesMom · 03-11-2013, 11:34 AM

Oh my gosh, Charlene!! He's too stinkin cute there!!

nanahas3 · 03-11-2013, 11:36 AM

Thanks

. He is a spoiled little guy. We are getting ready to leave for groceries and he went and hid because he doesn't get to go lol.

divinemissm · 03-11-2013, 11:43 AM

Sorry i dont know if i did this right but I got my little Suri on sunday she is an adult dog four years old I did not want to raise a puppy not at my age she is already trained has a beautiful disposition and is a little teapot eight pounds! I did not want a teacup yorkie I wanted a normal size one, so far I have no complaints and I am in love. Millie

Yorkiemommy1984 · 03-11-2013, 12:01 PM

It is frustrating bring lied to and I feel dumb but in the end I have an amazing lol dog who we all love more then anything. However if the breeders are false I am going to try and do something because its just wrong what she's doing and steeling extra money from people is so selfish and its all illegal. I guess I'll know more when I take her to the vet we shall see. my Minnie is perfect to us no matter what she is. our family is complete

MandiesMom · 03-11-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemommy1984

It is frustrating bring lied to and I feel dumb but in the end I have an amazing lol dog who we all love more then anything. However if the breeders are false I am going to try and do something because its just wrong what she's doing and steeling extra money from people is so selfish and its all illegal. I guess I'll know more when I take her to the vet we shall see. my Minnie is perfect to us no matter what she is. our family is complete

How did you find the breeder, if I may ask?

yorkietalkjilly · 03-11-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemommy1984

It is frustrating bring lied to and I feel dumb but in the end I have an amazing lol dog who we all love more then anything. However if the breeders are false I am going to try and do something because its just wrong what she's doing and steeling extra money from people is so selfish and its all illegal. I guess I'll know more when I take her to the vet we shall see. my Minnie is perfect to us no matter what she is. our family is complete

I do hope you try to see what you can do to help stop this breeder from passing dogs like that off as purebred Yorkies - if it is proved or extremely likely that is exactly what they are doing. It could save a lot of heartbreak and money - money that some people don't have and might have saved to get themselves the dog of their dreams - a full-blooded Yorkshire Terrier. Buying from one of the respected and reputable Yorkshire Terrier breeders in your area will likely be more expensive but perhaps not in the long run by the time you are finished trying to get to the bottom of this situation and get DNA tests, maybe hire a lawyer, etc. Here's hoping that you find some resolution that makes you feel better. But do you know what? Your little Minnie is precious and will probably keep you amazed at how smart she is if she is part MinPin and Yorkie. If she is part Chi and Yorkie, she will be a great watch dog and cuddle bug. Whatever she is genetically, she's a darling little girl who is so charming.

furrybaby · 03-11-2013, 12:38 PM

I'm still with the chorkie version, the eye coloring fits a yorkie and not a mini pinscher from what i can tell, compare on google images. Probably the breeders tried for a smaller dog and bred with the chihuahua. Then tried breeding back towards the yorkie maybe. The parent could also be a chorkie with chihuahua coloring but the ears don't stick up. When they cross breed, all the pups are a surprise. I suppose you didn't pay that much for the pup, did you? She's darling and less grooming for you. I'd keep her in a heart beat! Soo cute! And i bet she's smart!

Regarding the breeder, you could write up a consumer report at the least, no? It'll be intersting to hear what your vet advises.

dawn27 · 03-11-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemommy1984

She even has the parents and grandparents info on about them being purebred as well

You are reffering to the Generation Certificate.

Whether this person was trying to be deceitful and knowingly committed fraud by providing you with false statement on the registration paper or she truly believes that both parents are pure breed. Either way she is clearly mistaken and at fault.

Can I ask where you got your pup from and if the breeder has a web site can you add the link?

Yorkiemommy1984 · 03-11-2013, 06:04 PM

I honestly believe she's a chorkie. But I love her the same no matter what. I just messaged the breeder very kindly and let her know that I think something's not right here. So now I will have to wait Bd see what she has to say. I honestly at this point feel she lied to me she played the real sweet card but I just have this weird feeling sbd I'm usually pretty good with that kind of stuff but now it's just the waiting game to see whetrvshevgoes next with this situation

03-11-2013, 10:49 AM	#31
MandiesMom and Shelby's too Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Millbrook, AL Posts: 7,842	Unless it is AKC (no other letters), it is basically a paper registry and just about anybody can register any dog and claim they are purebred. The fact that she sent that pic of the parent, tells me that she honestly believes she has purebred yorkies. She isn't faking you out with pics of pure yorkies. She sent the real pic of the parent. That tells me that she is probably misinformed and not actually trying to fraud you. Your Minnie is part yorkie. I see that in her. So you have a yorkie...it's just mixed with something. As a matter of fact, I read recently about red legged yorkies (look into pics of those when you get a chance). There is a chance the parent's pic you showed is one. I'm not versed enough in them to know. __________________ Terri, proud mom to Mandie & Shelby-Dale

03-11-2013, 11:13 AM	#34
MandiesMom and Shelby's too Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Millbrook, AL Posts: 7,842	Yeah, I didn't know if they were or not. I just knew their hair is coarse (or hard) and grows slow and sparse. Thought that parent's pic may have some characteristics of some I've seen (and some I just researched right now). From researching just now, I'm leaning more away from red legged and I see jack russel in the nose of this parent. (not in the pup but the parent) OP - just so you know some of the things I was looking at in my research on the red legged, it was these 2 threads: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ed-yorkie.html http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...ed-yorkie.html With all of that said - I still don't think the seller/breeder was trying to fraud you on purpose or would not have considered sending that pic of the parent. Everything is not always black and white. __________________ Terri, proud mom to Mandie & Shelby-Dale

03-11-2013, 11:30 AM	#36
nanahas3 ♥Love My Snuggle Bugs♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 4,290	I have been told by several including my vet that Laddy is a redlegged yorkie but I was never sure either. Below is a picture of him as a pup and he still has redder more than gold on him other than his topnot. His fur is slow growing but he has plenty of it. He was 5 months around same age as the OP's pup in this picture. His ears grow very little hair also. Only need trimmed every 2 or 3 months and never need shaved. Attached Thumbnails __________________ *CharleneMama to Laddy and Kyra and Always in our hearts Lolita* Last edited by nanahas3; 03-11-2013 at 11:32 AM.

03-11-2013, 11:34 AM	#37
MandiesMom and Shelby's too Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Millbrook, AL Posts: 7,842	Oh my gosh, Charlene!! He's too stinkin cute there!! __________________ Terri, proud mom to Mandie & Shelby-Dale

03-11-2013, 11:36 AM	#38
nanahas3 ♥Love My Snuggle Bugs♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 4,290	Thanks . He is a spoiled little guy. We are getting ready to leave for groceries and he went and hid because he doesn't get to go lol. __________________ *CharleneMama to Laddy and Kyra and Always in our hearts Lolita*

03-11-2013, 10:53 AM	#32
gracielove YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY Posts: 6,582	I agree with Yorkietalkjilly. Dishonest breeders will switch litter registration slips around and they do it very easily. AKC is the only reputable organization to register dogs in the US but the registration is only as good as the breeder is reputable. This breeder appears to have royally ripped you off. Consider doing the DNA testing and reporting her to the AKC. After you get your DNA results either write or call her to let her know that you are aware of what she is doing and are going to report her. Someone as brazen as this probably will be prepared to fight you but don't back down. When people walk away from something like this it only encourages the disreputable breeder to continue doing this. There is a small chance that this could have been the result of an unplanned breeding with a Chi or Min Pin but a Yorkie breeder would certainly have known by the time she sold you that puppy that it was not a full bred Yorkie. I'm sorry this happened to you. There are all kinds out there The popularity of the Yorkie has caused a lot of greedy people to start breeding them.

03-11-2013, 11:43 AM	#39
divinemissm Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Mohawk ny usa Posts: 23	Suri is here Sorry i dont know if i did this right but I got my little Suri on sunday she is an adult dog four years old I did not want to raise a puppy not at my age she is already trained has a beautiful disposition and is a little teapot eight pounds! I did not want a teacup yorkie I wanted a normal size one, so far I have no complaints and I am in love. Millie

03-11-2013, 12:01 PM	#40
Yorkiemommy1984 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Pa Posts: 90	It is frustrating bring lied to and I feel dumb but in the end I have an amazing lol dog who we all love more then anything. However if the breeders are false I am going to try and do something because its just wrong what she's doing and steeling extra money from people is so selfish and its all illegal. I guess I'll know more when I take her to the vet we shall see. my Minnie is perfect to us no matter what she is. our family is complete

03-11-2013, 12:38 PM	#43
furrybaby Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Furville, CA Posts: 173	I'm still with the chorkie version, the eye coloring fits a yorkie and not a mini pinscher from what i can tell, compare on google images. Probably the breeders tried for a smaller dog and bred with the chihuahua. Then tried breeding back towards the yorkie maybe. The parent could also be a chorkie with chihuahua coloring but the ears don't stick up. When they cross breed, all the pups are a surprise. I suppose you didn't pay that much for the pup, did you? She's darling and less grooming for you. I'd keep her in a heart beat! Soo cute! And i bet she's smart! Regarding the breeder, you could write up a consumer report at the least, no? It'll be intersting to hear what your vet advises. Last edited by furrybaby; 03-11-2013 at 12:40 PM.

03-11-2013, 06:04 PM	#45
Yorkiemommy1984 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Pa Posts: 90	I honestly believe she's a chorkie. But I love her the same no matter what. I just messaged the breeder very kindly and let her know that I think something's not right here. So now I will have to wait Bd see what she has to say. I honestly at this point feel she lied to me she played the real sweet card but I just have this weird feeling sbd I'm usually pretty good with that kind of stuff but now it's just the waiting game to see whetrvshevgoes next with this situation