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MyDearSam · 01-15-2013, 11:03 AM

I looked at the Snow Blue site, and the amount of information just made my head spin. Way way over my concentration level. But I do have a question.

Is it still common practice for breeders to destroy babies simply based on their colors?

Verbena · 01-15-2013, 11:16 AM

No they do not destroy the puppies. They put them up for adoption with strict pet neuter.

bchgirl · 01-15-2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Verbena

No they do not destroy the puppies. They put them up for adoption with strict pet neuter.

I believe you're incorrect in that assumption. It is still done in a variety of breeds.

Yorkiemom1 · 01-15-2013, 11:41 AM

It is not as common for breeders to destroy babies.....but unfortunately, I do know of some very exclusive breeding facilities that do NOT want that color gene fault to be associated with their line of dogs.....so they will quietly cull those babies...not anywhere on the volume that was once very common place, but it is still done by some. It isnt only the color gene that can get babies culled by breeders so inclined to keep "their reputations intact and absolutely perfect"............

Verbena · 01-15-2013, 12:02 PM

That is truly sad. They could just fix them and even send them to a a shelter. Makes me sad

Yorkiemom1 · 01-15-2013, 04:08 PM

When I first started learning and researching breeding and breeding practices, I kept reading about "culling"....I thought for sure I was loosing my mind and had not understood what the meaning of "culling" was....I was shockerd and amazed when I actually began to speak with people that do this almost second nature....just like breeders that believe in survival of the fittest principle, and if there is a fading baby in a litter, they will do nothing to actually save that baby, allowing nature to take its course....I just can not do that, especially when I honestly believe that baby is a product of MY intentions....if I have screwed something up and misjudged or misinterpreted something, and now this poor little unfortunate soul is struggling to survive, I believe I have to get in there and fight for /with that baby, because that baby would not be in the fight/struggle of its life, if it was not for me. If it is Gods will that baby goes back to Him, then He will take it regardless of what I do....but He expects me to do SOMETHING......

Namor · 01-15-2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marhcarter

Ok, probably a stupid question, but i just dont know:what is the difference in a parti yorkie and a biewer? Symmetry of markings?

I have the same question.

Namor · 01-15-2013, 04:25 PM

I just read the information on the SnowBlue Yorkies website. Very interesting. I do love the Biewers. The coat is just magnificent!!!!

MyDearSam · 01-15-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

When I first started learning and researching breeding and breeding practices, I kept reading about "culling"....I thought for sure I was loosing my mind and had not understood what the meaning of "culling" was....I was shockerd and amazed when I actually began to speak with people that do this almost second nature....just like breeders that believe in survival of the fittest principle, and if there is a fading baby in a litter, they will do nothing to actually save that baby, allowing nature to take its course....I just can not do that, especially when I honestly believe that baby is a product of MY intentions....if I have screwed something up and misjudged or misinterpreted something, and now this poor little unfortunate soul is struggling to survive, I believe I have to get in there and fight for /with that baby, because that baby would not be in the fight/struggle of its life, if it was not for me. If it is Gods will that baby goes back to Him, then He will take it regardless of what I do....but He expects me to do SOMETHING......

And this is why I think you are one of the true gems on this site. I can't even fathom an innocent, precious baby being 'disposable'.

msyorktown · 01-15-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MyDearSam

And this is why I think you are one of the true gems on this site. I can't even fathom an innocent, precious baby being 'disposable'.

Very well said, I agree 100%

joann1166 · 01-15-2013, 06:17 PM

I want a biewer so bad to go with my two yorkies. :-) one day one day I will be able to afford one!

Teresa Ford · 01-15-2013, 06:31 PM

My Julia Rose is a Parti Yorkie. She is a cutie.

Lap Princess · 01-15-2013, 07:26 PM

I've been reading about the Biewers & partis & read the Snow Blue website as well. This whole thing sounds alot like the deal with Cocker Spaniels. It was quite a while before the AKC accepted parti cockers. Now there are 3 categories, but they are ALL still cockers.

Same thing here. They are all yorkies, period. This Biewer fellow wanted AKC recognition for a color variation, they didn't want to do it, therefore he went down the road of trying to market them as a new breed, which they really aren't. Maybe at some time down the road this whole tri-color acceptance thing will develop to the point where the cocker spaniel is now as far as the AKC is concerned. Seems like the biggest problem is the lack of genetic variation withing the strictly Biewer lines and the need to breed out to standard yorkies to keep the health factors sound. Those that insist on breeding Biewer to Biewer are risking more health issues.

Or at least that's how i read it.

Carissad · 01-15-2013, 08:58 PM

I have two and around where I live they just aren't heard of. When some ask I tell them what they are and they just give me a blank look. And I say we'll they both have papers and I also tell them to google it!!

navillusc · 01-15-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

When I first started learning and researching breeding and breeding practices, I kept reading about "culling"....I thought for sure I was loosing my mind and had not understood what the meaning of "culling" was....I was shockerd and amazed when I actually began to speak with people that do this almost second nature....just like breeders that believe in survival of the fittest principle, and if there is a fading baby in a litter, they will do nothing to actually save that baby, allowing nature to take its course....I just can not do that, especially when I honestly believe that baby is a product of MY intentions....if I have screwed something up and misjudged or misinterpreted something, and now this poor little unfortunate soul is struggling to survive, I believe I have to get in there and fight for /with that baby, because that baby would not be in the fight/struggle of its life, if it was not for me. If it is Gods will that baby goes back to Him, then He will take it regardless of what I do....but He expects me to do SOMETHING......

I completely agree more. You are one of the truly wonderful ones!!!

I couldn't no way do anything like 'culling' but I've heard...to my horror...it has been/is still being routinely done.

I seem to recall reading somewhere sometime

that "God helps those who help themselves" so my feeling is if I won't do anything, why would/should He? I don't wait around, and I expect Him NOT to either...I have NEVER been disappointed by my expectation.

01-15-2013, 11:16 AM	#32
Verbena Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: with my flying monkeys Posts: 15,620 Blog Entries: 7	No they do not destroy the puppies. They put them up for adoption with strict pet neuter. __________________ Teri . . . Galen Jameson Frazier Seraphina Luna Rosencrantz, Saber Tooth Tiger, Pussy Willow Pandora Guildenstern

01-15-2013, 12:02 PM	#35
Verbena Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: with my flying monkeys Posts: 15,620 Blog Entries: 7	That is truly sad. They could just fix them and even send them to a a shelter. Makes me sad __________________ Teri . . . Galen Jameson Frazier Seraphina Luna Rosencrantz, Saber Tooth Tiger, Pussy Willow Pandora Guildenstern

01-15-2013, 04:25 PM	#38
Namor Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,504	I just read the information on the SnowBlue Yorkies website. Very interesting. I do love the Biewers. The coat is just magnificent!!!! __________________ Mary & Deuce

01-15-2013, 06:17 PM	#41
joann1166 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Arab, AL, USA Posts: 1,117 Blog Entries: 1	I want a biewer so bad to go with my two yorkies. :-) one day one day I will be able to afford one! __________________ Charlie & Natalie & Ollie

01-15-2013, 06:31 PM	#42
Teresa Ford Therapy Yorkies Work Donating Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Central, Florida Posts: 3,863	My Julia Rose is a Parti Yorkie. She is a cutie. __________________ Teresa & Rubin, Gracie, Abba, Ginny Joy and Julia Rose Act like a dog, be kind, forgiving, and loyal.

01-15-2013, 11:03 AM	#31
MyDearSam YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Tennessee Posts: 646	I looked at the Snow Blue site, and the amount of information just made my head spin. Way way over my concentration level. But I do have a question. Is it still common practice for breeders to destroy babies simply based on their colors?

01-15-2013, 11:41 AM	#34
Yorkiemom1 Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 9,462	It is not as common for breeders to destroy babies.....but unfortunately, I do know of some very exclusive breeding facilities that do NOT want that color gene fault to be associated with their line of dogs.....so they will quietly cull those babies...not anywhere on the volume that was once very common place, but it is still done by some. It isnt only the color gene that can get babies culled by breeders so inclined to keep "their reputations intact and absolutely perfect"............

01-15-2013, 04:08 PM	#36
Yorkiemom1 Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 9,462	When I first started learning and researching breeding and breeding practices, I kept reading about "culling"....I thought for sure I was loosing my mind and had not understood what the meaning of "culling" was....I was shockerd and amazed when I actually began to speak with people that do this almost second nature....just like breeders that believe in survival of the fittest principle, and if there is a fading baby in a litter, they will do nothing to actually save that baby, allowing nature to take its course....I just can not do that, especially when I honestly believe that baby is a product of MY intentions....if I have screwed something up and misjudged or misinterpreted something, and now this poor little unfortunate soul is struggling to survive, I believe I have to get in there and fight for /with that baby, because that baby would not be in the fight/struggle of its life, if it was not for me. If it is Gods will that baby goes back to Him, then He will take it regardless of what I do....but He expects me to do SOMETHING......

01-15-2013, 07:26 PM	#43
Lap Princess Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2009 Location: with my Yorklet! Posts: 1,356	I've been reading about the Biewers & partis & read the Snow Blue website as well. This whole thing sounds alot like the deal with Cocker Spaniels. It was quite a while before the AKC accepted parti cockers. Now there are 3 categories, but they are ALL still cockers. Same thing here. They are all yorkies, period. This Biewer fellow wanted AKC recognition for a color variation, they didn't want to do it, therefore he went down the road of trying to market them as a new breed, which they really aren't. Maybe at some time down the road this whole tri-color acceptance thing will develop to the point where the cocker spaniel is now as far as the AKC is concerned. Seems like the biggest problem is the lack of genetic variation withing the strictly Biewer lines and the need to breed out to standard yorkies to keep the health factors sound. Those that insist on breeding Biewer to Biewer are risking more health issues. Or at least that's how i read it. __________________ _______________________________________ Inga - Loved by Lexie

01-15-2013, 08:58 PM	#44
Carissad Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 23	I have two and around where I live they just aren't heard of. When some ask I tell them what they are and they just give me a blank look. And I say we'll they both have papers and I also tell them to google it!!