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mscat · 08-09-2011, 04:55 PM

One good thing is now this baby is in the right hands. To a loving , caring owner. I do agree with YT'ers , and hoping you may consider it .To spay her and free yourself of this contract. You got a beautiful little Yorkie , and I will agree you did save her from anymore harm that would have come to her if she stayed with Glenda.

roseylovestosho · 08-09-2011, 04:57 PM

Also, considering that you just acquired a dog that as you stated in another post, is not potty-trained, socialized, etc you should spend your time trying to train her rather than trying to look for a mentor at this stage. You have your hands full with a new dog, you should focus on her.

Furbaby Friend · 08-09-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MadDeDo

I don't think anyone is questioning the fact that the dog came to you in bad condition and that Glenda is at fault for it. It's obvious that she is in a much better place now, and that's wonderful for the little girl.

What someone was trying to point out above is that you have two options right now:
#1 Spay her and keep her as just a pet. If you decide that you still want to step into the show ring in the future--start over again and this time with a reputable breeder who is thoroughly checked out, etc.

OR #2: Sign Glenda's required contract in order to recieve her AKC papers (which I assume she is holding until you sign said contract), and enter into an agreement with her that keeps you "bound" to an irresponsible breeder for many years to come. This second option seems to be the ONLY way that you will get her AKC papers on full registration--and in order to show/breed her you would HAVE to have the full registration papers.

SO the question they were asking is why would you want to enter a contract with someone you disagree with and who is obviously not a reputable breeder? That's what they meant...if those are your only two options...why choose the 2nd knowing what kind of breeder you're dealing with in Glenda?

My personal advice would be to just keep her and spay her, and love her as a special little pet. She deserves it after her rough start in life. It's great that she was "rescued" from that awful situation and she has a chance for a new beginning with you. Work with her and take her everywhere you go--she is still young enough that she can be "re-socialized" and come out of her shell.

I pulled a little 2 year old Yorkie girl from an outside kennel who had probably never been held or touched this Spring. She was so afraid of people. It took me several days once she was in my home before I could pick her up. She was incredibly thin as well and covered in fleas, infested with worms. Long story short...she was placed into a very special home with a wonderful family who was recommended to me by a friend. She is now a beautiful spayed little princess who LOVES her family, belly rubs, cuddling, her toys (which she had never seen before she came to me), and she has filled out and in a good healthy size because her new mom cooks for her every day. Her pictures make me cry every time I get an update--she has truly made a 180. So, there IS hope for this little girl to turn around in her personality. Just wanted to share that story with you.

Good luck with your new baby!

Well said

TxVicki · 08-09-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by roseylovestosho

Also, considering that you just acquired a dog that as you stated in another post, is not potty-trained, socialized, etc you should spend your time trying to train her rather than trying to look for a mentor at this stage. You have your hands full with a new dog, you should focus on her.

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purplekisses77 · 08-09-2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by roseylovestosho

Also, considering that you just acquired a dog that as you stated in another post, is not potty-trained, socialized, etc you should spend your time trying to train her rather than trying to look for a mentor at this stage. You have your hands full with a new dog, you should focus on her.

Nice oppion and u have a right to your own thoughts but i do have a husband and kids that help too and I do all I need to take care of her thank you ... Thats like telling show people don't go show when you have a puppy or dog at home to train I can well balance my life thanks for your concern!!!!

TxVicki · 08-09-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by purplekisses77

AMEN...... WELL PUT LAST WRITERS
I am sad i gave that money to someone that would treat a dog like that i feel i paid for a puppy from a puppy mill or a back yard breeder i feel responsible and hurt over this I have to pull myself through this and i wish i had away to stop this crap from happening. I never thought this would be me....I tell people all the time do your research and look what happened grrrr sooo i need to get to know good breeders and show peoples so recommend some to me please peoples and wishing to find someone close to us in Madison Wisconsin???

The last thing you need right now, is trying to find another breeder or another dog.
To me I just keep hearing about the almighty dollar's that you have put out for her, when you were warned. BUT you said you already researched her, I guess you didn't do that too well.
Not once when you first started posting about this did you ever mention you wanted a show dog or a breedeing dog, now only after you have been wronged do you mention it.
Chalk it up to, you didn't do your homework correctly from I can tell. You never do this kind business over the phone and never do you do purchase a a show potential without actually seeing the dog first or having a mentor.

capt_noonie · 08-09-2011, 07:17 PM

This is what confuses me. If you have been showing before and know how the show world is, why don't you know the way to look for a mentor is to go to a bunch of shows and meet people. You don't find a mentor by posting on forums. Good mentors are in demand and busy and will not mentor just anyone. I doubt anyone will be giving you many names.

On the future of your pup, are you planning on getting her spayed? $1250 is about the price for pet quality, not show quality. Glenda said you could show her, well you can, but she probably won't win.

gracielove · 08-09-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by purplekisses77

all you asked has been answered already that is why i asked for her to mentor me lol i asked the wrong breeder for one!! and she (Bella) is getting all the care she needs i know alot about that doing rescue and rehab and service training for 13 years and just so you know we have shown some already and yes I know how the show world is and it is why people like me that love the breed and want to do whats best for the breed and try to start somewhere but get told to do it one way by one breeder and then a different way by another let me say it's quite contradictory at times!! why do you think i am here asking questions and saying I am part to blame for this happening by not getting things in line before I paid for her by I trusted her and I am deeply sorry for that but one thing good came from this Bella isn't there anymore she is in a home that loves and cares for her!!!!

I will say however not anyone is perfect I'm sure everyone has a story or two to tell......I know I am doing the best I can with the knowledge I have been given and I will try my hardest everyday to do better then the day before!!!!

I know you are trying to do what is best. I am just trying to say that a forum is good. And talking to breeders is good, but if you are serious about showing you need to get involved in your local kennel club. There is no better information than learning from those who have worked at establishing sound lines and have been in the show ring for many years. Everyone has to start somewhere. Showing dogs takes training. Most people get started by finding someone who will help them learn the ropes. I am not trying to insult you. I am trying to point you in the right direction. You are upset right now and you have every right to be. Any breeder that would send a dog loaded with ticks to you on a plane is not reputable or even humane. I am glad you know how to train a dog. I am just trying to impart some helpful information to you. Your local kennel club has information and contacts that you cannot find on a forum or a website.

purplekisses77 · 08-09-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TxVicki

The last thing you need right now, is trying to find another breeder or another dog.
To me I just keep hearing about the almighty dollar's that you have put out for her, when you were warned. BUT you said you already researched her, I guess you didn't do that too well.
Not once when you first started posting about this did you ever mention you wanted a show dog or a breedeing dog, now only after you have been wronged do you mention it.
Chalk it up to, you didn't do your homework correctly from I can tell. You never do this kind business over the phone and never do you do purchase a a show potential without actually seeing the dog first or having a mentor.

1st off I didnt come on here (YT) saying I wanted to do anything with the dog, I just asked if anyone heard about glenda beaver!!
I had already sent money by then because she lied to me from the beginning as I already wrote on this site!! I had only found this site when I asked that about glenda!! the research I did and got info on was all good till I came on here (YT)

and 2nd I didnt say I know everything about anything!! I said we showed a few times well my daughter and I did in jr. and conformation division to see what it was like and to help a pug breeder out and to learn about how to show ect.
I know how show is only as a sideline person and seeing how political it is ......and what I have heard from other show people I know.it is hard work and takes alot of time and money ect..
I have already got people private messaging me about potential mentoring as well as in the clubs around my area willing to work with me and have already!!
I am not so worried about the money end of what I put out for her other then I didn't get what she said I was getting and other then that what is she going to do for the dogs she still has there, I just hope and pray it is more then what she did for our Bella!!!

so to say I didnt do so well on researching her part in your post,that is one thing I can agree with you on I was far to trusting of her, but I think I already said that hummm are you reading before you post goodness......and if you wanna come at someone sideways maybe you can at least read everything first before getting your red sharpie out and being all up in your feelings!!
thanks god bless you and yours... no disrespect but this forum post wasn't started to say omg look at what was done wrong only on her part but trust and believe she has done a ton wrong!!! it was to say dang I was wrong I should have listened and I hope others will before it's to late.

to all you other helpful nice people out here thanks for all your kind helpful words and thoughts I really don't mind peoples opinion I just can't stand when someone tries to act like your mom or like they are better then you are and come on what is the forum for to help or hurt people???? man how do I send some support to this website how do I become a member???

where's the popcorn

this place is great!!!

purplekisses77 · 08-09-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gracielove

I know you are trying to do what is best. I am just trying to say that a forum is good. And talking to breeders is good, but if you are serious about showing you need to get involved in your local kennel club. There is no better information than learning from those who have worked at establishing sound lines and have been in the show ring for many years. Everyone has to start somewhere. Showing dogs takes training. Most people get started by finding someone who will help them learn the ropes. I am not trying to insult you. I am trying to point you in the right direction. You are upset right now and you have every right to be. Any breeder that would send a dog loaded with ticks to you on a plane is not reputable or even humane. I am glad you know how to train a dog. I am just trying to impart some helpful information to you. Your local kennel club has information and contacts that you cannot find on a forum or a website.

thanks for clearing that up and sorry yes I am upset right now and didn't mean to be mean if you were just trying to help I'm woman enough to say sorry!!
yes I agree the local kennel club is a helpful place to start and have been working on hooking up with people from there and was at one point working with someone but she moved!! that is why I started learning and being around people of like mind many years ago and even started showing some (not my dog) in 2004 and been doing rescue since 1997 and grooming and service work as well. I wanted to have as much back ground as I could I really thought she was trust worthy I even had talked to some other people that had got dogs from her....and since have learned more of the story and wished I knew more before I bought her but either way she is here now and all I can really do is give her the gift of living not just surviving every time I think of what she has gone through I cry and get mad all at the same time!! she is a blessing and very special to me and my family it's funny in a way to see her scared and in love all at the same time hehehe she makes me giggle and she tries new things for the 1st time it's so heart lifting and cute as heck to hear my husband say to her "ain't no one gonna hurt and be mean to that baby no more daddy's got you" lol big smile comes across my face man i can go on and on but I just am hurting for her and great-full we can give her just what she needs!! and that makes me soooo happy!!

purplekisses77 · 08-09-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by capt_noonie

This is what confuses me. If you have been showing before and know how the show world is, why don't you know the way to look for a mentor is to go to a bunch of shows and meet people. You don't find a mentor by posting on forums. Good mentors are in demand and busy and will not mentor just anyone. I doubt anyone will be giving you many names.

On the future of your pup, are you planning on getting her spayed? $1250 is about the price for pet quality, not show quality. Glenda said you could show her, well you can, but she probably won't win.

well at 1st like I said already, she was suppose to be a pet/show dog then after I talked to glenda about her condition the day I picked her up from airport Glenda said to breeder!!!!!!
lol I wish people would read before dippin' in the kool aid and not knowing the flavor!!! ok this is enough of this by the way I'm not JUST ANYONE wow and I already have people offering mentoring thanks sparky for your words of great wisdom and you know it's people like you that make me want to show her and work my aXX off to get her there cause I'm sorry you are not god and can't tell me we won't win!! thanks for your support but it's negativity like yours I don't really want or need!!

I think i have had alittle to much of YT tonight grrr I'm getting off here for now thanks to all the wonderful people that have been helpful!!

capt_noonie · 08-09-2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by purplekisses77

well at 1st like I said already, she was suppose to be a pet/show dog then after I talked to glenda about her condition the day I picked her up from airport Glenda said to breeder!!!!!!
lol I wish people would read before dippin' in the kool aid and not knowing the flavor!!! ok this is enough of this by the way I'm not JUST ANYONE wow and I already have people offering mentoring thanks sparky for your words of great wisdom and you know it's people like you that make me want to show her and work my aXX off to get her there cause I'm sorry you are not god and can't tell me we won't win!! thanks for your support but it's negativity like yours I don't really want or need!!

I think i have had alittle to much of YT tonight grrr I'm getting off here for now thanks to all the wonderful people that have been helpful!!

You really remind me of someone.....
I have read all your posts, so I do know "what the flavor of the Kool Aid is". You already know what you wanna do, so go ahead and do it. So you have some people PMing you all these mentors' names, how do you know they are trustworthy? Why don't you go to shows and meet people in person instead of having total strangers tell you who they think would be a good mentor?

I'm so done with this one too. Good luck with showing and all. Win those blue ribbons.

xoxo,
Sparky

Lolasmom1211 · 08-10-2011, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by purplekisses77

thanks for clearing that up and sorry yes I am upset right now and didn't mean to be mean if you were just trying to help I'm woman enough to say sorry!!
yes I agree the local kennel club is a helpful place to start and have been working on hooking up with people from there and was at one point working with someone but she moved!! that is why I started learning and being around people of like mind many years ago and even started showing some (not my dog) in 2004 and been doing rescue since 1997 and grooming and service work as well. I wanted to have as much back ground as I could I really thought she was trust worthy I even had talked to some other people that had got dogs from her....and since have learned more of the story and wished I knew more before I bought her but either way she is here now and all I can really do is give her the gift of living not just surviving every time I think of what she has gone through I cry and get mad all at the same time!! she is a blessing and very special to me and my family it's funny in a way to see her scared and in love all at the same time hehehe she makes me giggle and she tries new things for the 1st time it's so heart lifting and cute as heck to hear my husband say to her "ain't no one gonna hurt and be mean to that baby no more daddy's got you" lol big smile comes across my face man i can go on and on but I just am hurting for her and great-full we can give her just what she needs!! and that makes me soooo happy!!

It makes me smile to read your post about your husband wanting to protect Bella. I think it's wonderful that he has her and she has him. If she is able to live in a home where people love her and want only to proect her - a place where she can live and be pampered and nothing more is expected from her, she will thrive! It sounds like that is exacty what you are doing with her. Things happen to us in life that seem so unfair at times, such as you being sent this baby that was misrepresented - but I bet in time this baby will be a blessing to you and your family. Give it time and I bet she will end up meaning more to you than any show dog you can imagine! It sounds like she has already stolen your hearts. Good luck and best wishes to Bella and your family!

roseylovestosho · 08-10-2011, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by purplekisses77

well at 1st like I said already, she was suppose to be a pet/show dog then after I talked to glenda about her condition the day I picked her up from airport Glenda said to breeder!!!!!!
lol I wish people would read before dippin' in the kool aid and not knowing the flavor!!! ok this is enough of this by the way I'm not JUST ANYONE wow and I already have people offering mentoring thanks sparky for your words of great wisdom and you know it's people like you that make me want to show her and work my aXX off to get her there cause I'm sorry you are not god and can't tell me we won't win!! thanks for your support but it's negativity like yours I don't really want or need!!

I think i have had alittle to much of YT tonight grrr I'm getting off here for now thanks to all the wonderful people that have been helpful!!

We do read...since you've apparently forgotten the chain of events let me remind you:

"i want to tell you i have never been so sad and happy all in one time the day i picked up Bella i paid 1250 for her i was suppose to get a show quality dog that one day we might start a breeding program from. i had talked to glenda for over a month before buying her. i was so happy because i was told she had a great personality and that she was born dec 3 20010 and at that age would be potty trained and in good health and up keep, specially since i bought her from a show breeder with a great long history with yorkies...."

That's your very first post on the subject, so clearly you bought the dog with the intention of showing her and breeding her, and it was an offer that was made to you prior to the dog arriving to your house, and not an offer that was presented to you after the fact.

" I already have people offering mentoring thanks sparky for your words of great wisdom and you know"

Really, that's great! Because all of the legitimate showers/breeders will make an offer in private over the internet with someone they barely know. That worked out really well the first time didn't it? Were those the things that Mardelin and Gemy suggested to you? No, of course not, because when people give you suggestions you don't agree with...you ignore them.

"it's people like you that make me want to show her and work my aXX off to get her there cause I'm sorry you are not god and can't tell me we won't win!!"

You're joking? Everyone has been telling you how adorable your dog is, YOU'RE the one that keeps sobbing over what you call your "high priced rescue."

Everyone knows the flavor of your koolaid, it's just that nobody likes it.

Rhetts_mama · 08-10-2011, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by capt_noonie

You really remind me of someone.....
I have read all your posts, so I do know "what the flavor of the Kool Aid is". You already know what you wanna do, so go ahead and do it. So you have some people PMing you all these mentors' names, how do you know they are trustworthy? Why don't you go to shows and meet people in person instead of having total strangers tell you who they think would be a good mentor?

I'm so done with this one too. Good luck with showing and all. Win those blue ribbons.

xoxo,
Sparky

I don't drink kool aid.

08-09-2011, 04:55 PM	#61
mscat YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hanford, CA Posts: 4,895	One good thing is now this baby is in the right hands. To a loving , caring owner. I do agree with YT'ers , and hoping you may consider it .To spay her and free yourself of this contract. You got a beautiful little Yorkie , and I will agree you did save her from anymore harm that would have come to her if she stayed with Glenda. __________________ "No matter how little money & how few possessions, you own, having a dog makes you rich."

08-09-2011, 04:57 PM	#62
roseylovestosho Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: #4 PRIVET DRIVE Posts: 1,685	Also, considering that you just acquired a dog that as you stated in another post, is not potty-trained, socialized, etc you should spend your time trying to train her rather than trying to look for a mentor at this stage. You have your hands full with a new dog, you should focus on her. __________________

08-09-2011, 07:17 PM	#67
capt_noonie www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County Posts: 17,408	This is what confuses me. If you have been showing before and know how the show world is, why don't you know the way to look for a mentor is to go to a bunch of shows and meet people. You don't find a mentor by posting on forums. Good mentors are in demand and busy and will not mentor just anyone. I doubt anyone will be giving you many names. On the future of your pup, are you planning on getting her spayed? $1250 is about the price for pet quality, not show quality. Glenda said you could show her, well you can, but she probably won't win.