Yorkshire Terrier Club of America breeders are good breed?

[107barney]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Obviously, there are some good breeders who aren’t in the club, after all, people aren’t born in into the club they join it, so they must be a good breeder before someone can recommend them. There will always be people joining clubs for the wrong reason; the right reason would be because you want to be with other likeminded people who believe in preserving and protecting the breed. This isn’t a club that helps you sell puppies, although many breeders don’t understand that. I’m so glad a YorkieTalk member recommended the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America to me. I really wasn’t that familiar with purebreds, and I was looking for a healthy dog as that was of prime importance to me. After caring for my elderly parents I needed something that would give back to me, and I just didn’t have it in me to nurse a dog at that time. I found an excellent breeder through the YTCA and we got to know each other over time, she wanted to be sure I was ready for the commitment, and she told me that even good breeders have dogs that are sick, there’s no real guarantee for that, I mean they might return your money, but how about your heart? I know that she would stick by me no matter what and I was sure she would offer the emotional support I would need. This enabled me to take the plunge. At almost 5 Joey’s the picture of health and knock on wood he continues that way. He’s absolutely adorable too!

So I always recommend someone talking to YTCA breeders, you will learn so much and you will eventually know what you want in a breeder.

I could not agree more. I think it is a good idea to ask to speak to former buyers, including buyers who have bought a dog with a medical concern. That is a good way to see just how much emotional support was given in an individual situation, and whether that person has an ongoing regard for the dog's health once the dust of the dispute has settled and an agreement reached.

[gemy]

Here is what I think. The YTCA is the national club, the breeders who are members agree to abide by a code of ethics, and must be endorsed prior to admittance as a breeder member. Does that mean all are great, have healthy dogs (forever), have a certain personality you are looking for? Of course not. Sadly as a human species people will fool other people for awhile, will not breed to the best of this breed, willl despite ethics fail to support their puppy buyers. But all breeder members have passed a certain bar, which still means that you as a would be purchaser needs to do your homework.

References are a must; former buyers, and the breeders vet. Knowledge for you the purchaser a must. There are many health concerns such that one out of three Yorkies may have one of these health concerns. Sobering isn't it?

But still what no breeder can guarantee absolutely 100% is that this puppy will never ever get sick ever over the life of the dog.
What you want to do is to buy into a healthy line with a breeder who stands behind their breeding. To offer you lifetime support and advice; and btw even if 15yrs later they have stopped breeding.

[YorkieRose]

When I was breeding, I gave my vets number, so the prospective owner could get a first hand idea of how the health and care was of my breeding dogs...

All breeders will have problems from time to time...Mother nature can really do a number on us sometimes...I always think an ethical and caring breeder, will return the money and allow the owner to keep the pet...if they want. I think it is a tactic to demand the puppy back in order to recoup your costs...

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by gemy

Here is what I think. The YTCA is the national club, the breeders who are members agree to abide by a code of ethics, and must be endorsed prior to admittance as a breeder member. Does that mean all are great, have healthy dogs (forever), have a certain personality you are looking for? Of course not. Sadly as a human species people will fool other people for awhile, will not breed to the best of this breed, willl despite ethics fail to support their puppy buyers. But all breeder members have passed a certain bar, which still means that you as a would be purchaser needs to do your homework.

References are a must; former buyers, and the breeders vet. Knowledge for you the purchaser a must. There are many health concerns such that one out of three Yorkies may have one of these health concerns. Sobering isn't it?

But still what no breeder can guarantee absolutely 100% is that this puppy will never ever get sick ever over the life of the dog.
What you want to do is to buy into a healthy line with a breeder who stands behind their breeding. To offer you lifetime support and advice; and btw even if 15yrs later they have stopped breeding.

This statement speaks volumes of a breeder. It's the support or lack of that makes a breeder an OUTSTANDING breeder. You can go to anyone to buy a puppy but IMO to really make that cut into the ranks of a highly respected breeder is to offer support when needed. Yes, a refund of money for a sick dog would be a plus if there was a medical concern but it's so much more. Being able to pick up the phone or a quick email to get a little genuine support would be very high on my list of important attributes of a breeder.

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

When I was breeding, I gave my vets number, so the prospective owner could get a first hand idea of how the health and care was of my breeding dogs...

All breeders will have problems from time to time...Mother nature can really do a number on us sometimes...I always think an ethical and caring breeder, will return the money and allow the owner to keep the pet...if they want. I think it is a tactic to demand the puppy back in order to recoup your costs...

Totally agree with all of the above. We fall in love with our pets and many of us treat them as our children. We will do whatever is necessary to give proper medical care to our little furkids. When a breeder requires the pet to be returned for a refund or makes a refund and cuts off communication it speaks volumes to who they are and why they are breeding.

Recently a new pet shop opened in my neighorhood so I had to go in to check it out. I knew the answers that I would get but asked anyway.

1. What is the health guarantee
2. What if the puppy gets sick

the answers were this:

1. One week for parasites and one year for genetic issues
2. You will need to return the puppy and we will refund.

This tactic is used for nothing more than getting out of refunding the purchase price. Who is going to turn in a puppy that has been sick at a year old? You become attached and they are part of your family.

A responsible breeder who genuinely cares about the dogs they are breeding should step up, refund and support the owner. But I now feel that after my time on YT I am a much more educated consumer and would not expect anything less from a breeder that I would chose.

Furthermore, a member of a breed club (ie YTCA) should go the extra mile with all they do because they are being held to a much higher bar than the puppymill or the lady selling Yorkies on a sign at the post office.

[YorkieRose]

Here in Florida, a pet shop must post the breeder and address of every puppy in the store.
One shop owner used to argue up and down she only bought from reputable local breeders...so I stopped in to check it out...every single breed of pup was listed from the same breeder in MO...!

[Yorkielover0102]

Thank you guys soo much for your opinions!

[sissy55]

Hello, everyone this is a first time for me not sure how to go about things. well my yorkie is almost 2 years old and I would like to fine him a dam. in my area.

[tinalove]

The breeder referral is very helpful on YTCA. It helped me locate a wonderful breeder that I got Khloe from. However, I got Kirby from a hobby breeder. I didn't know what to look for when I got Kirby but I was fortunate. Don't buy from pet stores and places like flea markets. I cringe when I hear folks saying they got their pets from a flea market.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by sissy55

Hello, everyone this is a first time for me not sure how to go about things. well my yorkie is almost 2 years old and I would like to fine him a dam. in my area.

Welcome to YT! Unfortunately, adds for studding your dog or finding a mate is not allowed per YT rules. Feel free to come chit chat, and share yorkie stories and pictures.

[belladonna40]

hello,
if anyone knows of a breeder in the Buffalo/Rochester area could you please let me know. I am looking for a female yorkie for a companion for my 3 year old yorkie.

Many Thanks,

[DBlain]

I could be wrong but aren't most members of the YTCA show breeders, or former show breeders. If that is the case then you will likely get a good representation of the breed appearance standard as opposed to just assuming an AKC yorkie breeder is breeding to standards. And of course as others have stated it is important to check out each breeder as carefuly as you can.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by Teresa Ford

The only way to vouch for a breeder is to research them, talk to them, visit them and be as informed as possible. Just because they belong to a club is no assurance they are a good breeder. If you are looking for a show dog, go to dog shows, ask questions, listen to what people say about different breeders. Are you thinking about breeding dogs ? If you are, really do your homework, and ask why am I doing this ? Be honest with yourself too. You will probably not make a profit for years and maybe never. Not to long ago, I went to visit breeders listed with AKC and YTCA, when I was looking for a male puppy. Some were great, some good and some not so good.
Not all good breeders have professional kennels, some just have their own beautiful healthy Yorkies that live in their home. You will hear a lot of bad things on here, about Back Yard Breeders who breed for just for profit. So just learn as much as you can and keep looking. Go visit, check references, and be realistic about what you want, can afford, and how much time you have to share with a dog.

My very first Yorkie, back in 1978, came from a breeder listed on YTCA....that little baby had numerous genetic issues, died on me within 4 weeks of purchase, was not offered refund or even a replacment baby.....she remained in business and a member on this forum until she was busted a couple years ago as running a puppy mill.....so be cautious...clubs and such affiliations are only 1/3 of the total "score"....you need to talk to people that have gotten babies from that person, people that KNOW that breeder, and it takes a lot of time to get enough VALID, INFORMATIVE, NON BIASED opinions about any breeder....but it will save you a lot of money and heartache.......BUY THE BREEDER FIRST, SHE WILL HAVE YOUR PUPPY!!

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

When I was breeding, I gave my vets number, so the prospective owner could get a first hand idea of how the health and care was of my breeding dogs...

All breeders will have problems from time to time...Mother nature can really do a number on us sometimes...I always think an ethical and caring breeder, will return the money and allow the owner to keep the pet...if they want. I think it is a tactic to demand the puppy back in order to recoup your costs...

I agree that any breeder can have something jump up and bite them in the butt, regardless of all the care and measures they take to avoid problems...breeders are NOT God....they can only put dogs together that they know individually are wonderful,healthy examples of the breed....but Mother Nature can get into the mix and cause a problem....it is HOW the breeder handles the problem that will determine how good, how dedicated, how compassionate, how ethical a breeder she really is.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by sissy55

Hello, everyone this is a first time for me not sure how to go about things. well my yorkie is almost 2 years old and I would like to fine him a dam. in my area.

He already has a dam...that would be his momma. Are you thinking seriously about breeding your little male? You should be very knowledgable about what your little mans pedigree is, so you can produce litters that are free from genetic issues and adhere to the breed standard. That is where you start. You dont want to be having to refund peoples money and then spend thousands of dollars to provide medical care to puppies that are ill.