My Male Yorkie hunted and killed my neighbours cat

[Beamers Mom]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Yes, have read that. I was just addressing the fault and not the how. I am glad the dog is safe and unhurt and sorry for the poor cat.

Actually the was the reply to your post. The addition was just a "general" post. Wasn't aimed at you

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by Beamers Mom

Actually the was the reply to your post. The addition was just a "general" post. Wasn't aimed at you

Oh, gosh, I couldn't tell. I thought you were just reacting to my post. I am so sorry. Just joined in Feb. and am still figuring things out. How for sure can I tell so as to avoid responding to the wrong thing in the future?

[Beamers Mom]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Oh, gosh, I couldn't tell. I thought you were just reacting to my post. I am so sorry. Just joined in Feb. and am still figuring things out. How for sure can I tell so as to avoid responding to the wrong thing in the future?

No, was my bad!!! I should have made a separate post.

[Coton Momma]

I don't think that any of us are happy the cat was dead, no matter how it happened. But I also think your yard is your yard. I don't want other people's kids in mine, or their pets. And I strongly disagree with the laws that let cats just roam and don't require shots or licenses. It is not safe for the cats and it is not fair to others. There are few things more disgusting than going out to weed your garden and finding great big piles of cat poop among your rose bushes I would never do anything to hurt them but I sure will shoo them away.

If you have never been to an Earth Dog trial I would recommend it. They are a lot of fun! You can find them in your area here: American Kennel Club - Earthdog

And when the moles hit again this summer and my husband is on his LAST nerve I will bring up the natural instincts of Yorkies . It might just be the thing to get him to say YES to one!

[yorkietalkjilly]

Why won't he let you have a Yorkie? They are wonderful dogs! Is it just the "thing" some men have about small dogs?

[Islandloverr]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

I disagree. If my dog is in his own backyard living his life and a pet allowed to roam gets into my yard, I don't feel it is my or my dog's fault if the pet is accidentally injured or killed by my dog. It is the responsibility of the pet's owner to keep their own pet home, safe, out of harm's way and above all, off others' premises. I would be very sorry it happened and definitely feel their pain pretty intensely but my fault would not be equal in any way to that of the other animal's owner. Each owner is solely responsible for keeping his pet from trespassing on other's property and safe from harm. That's basic animal ownership responsibility. I only hope that all pet owners will keep their own dearly loved animals safe on their own property so these horrible things will not happen. While I do watch Tibbe when he is out due to his small size, if I owned a Mastiff I would not stand outside or sit by the window the entire time he was out just in case a negligent owner allowed their pet to get into my yard! It is a shame a poor cat is dead because he either had no home or his owner just let him out on his own.

i know im a bit late with the reply but my phone died & i just reached home.

But you basically made the same point as me. The neighbor undoubtedly needed to be watching their cat. Theres no arguing with that. Because the neighbors was so irresponsible....their cat (may it rest in peace) was killed. Whether by the op's yorkie or not.

My point is...that YES its YOUR yard....but u HAVE to keep an eye on your pet also. Especially a yorkie, being that its so small. I know some of you are older with kids....so would you have let your baby out in the back yard freely without supervision?....no right?....why?...because there are soooo many things that can happen or go wrong in a split second. Yes its your property...but its still out in the open.... Unless you have a force-field around your yard. lol.

Now if this was a situation where the Op's yorkie had gotten stolen, squeezed between the fence & ran off, or taken away by a larger bird...because it was left unsupervised in "their backyard"...who was going to take the blame for that?....

The hawk?....the theif??....the whole in the fence?....no the OWNER! You shouldnt have to wait for something bad to happen to YOUR yorkie in your own backyard for you to understand that.

but hey....some people learn better the hard way.

[Coton Momma]

Well, Hubby is not quite sure about a Yorkie for a few reasons. One is that Angel is still little, just five months, but still not house trained. Both of us have always had large, easy to train breeds. Our last girl was a Border Collie and VERY smart even by BC standards. She was house trained in a few days. Next are health issues and the cost of them. Cotons have few issues but Yorkies have their share. He is worried about paying vet bills once he retires in five or so years. I am looking at insurance. So it is not really a Yorkie he has reservations about but another dog period. I hope that once I get Angel trained up he will be more willing. I REALLY think a Yorkie would be a good companion for Angel.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by Islandloverr

i know im a bit late with the reply but my phone died & i just reached home.

But you basically made the same point as me. The neighbor undoubtedly needed to be watching their cat. Theres no arguing with that. Because the neighbors was so irresponsible....their cat (may it rest in peace) was killed. Whether by the op's yorkie or not.

My point is...that YES its YOUR yard....but u HAVE to keep an eye on your pet also. Especially a yorkie, being that its so small. I know some of you are older with kids....so would you have let your baby out in the back yard freely without supervision?....no right?....why?...because there are soooo many things that can happen or go wrong in a split second. Yes its your property...but its still out in the open.... Unless you have a force-field around your yard. lol.

Now if this was a situation where the Op's yorkie had gotten stolen, squeezed between the fence & ran off, or taken away by a larger bird...because it was left unsupervised in "their backyard"...who was going to take the blame for that?....

The hawk?....the theif??....the whole in the fence?....no the OWNER! You shouldnt have to wait for something bad to happen to YOUR yorkie in your own backyard for you to understand that.

but hey....some people learn better the hard way.

Yes, I agree that we need to watch these Yorkies of ours when they are outside as they can be prey themselves.

[concretegurl]

I have to ask how is a cat owner irresponsible for allowing their cat to be a cat?

A free roaming animal? I'm not sure about everywhere else but here if you harm a cat in your own yard you are in violation of the law...you may scare the animal out, pick it up and remove it, but not harm it as that is how the "free roaming" part of the law is interpreted...of course its also not the fault of someone who has a dog that would kill a free roaming invader...

but I personally would hope people would put in the effort to socialize their dogs (Yorkie to GD) to not be social aggressive dogs, and of course as I said before on here my Elvis flips out the neighborhood cats...but I correct him, we're working on it...via the effort I put in.

[Cha Cha]

Originally Posted by concretegurl

I have to ask how is a cat owner irresponsible for allowing their cat to be a cat?

A free roaming animal? I'm not sure about everywhere else but here if you harm a cat in your own yard you are in violation of the law...you may scare the animal out, pick it up and remove it, but not harm it as that is how the "free roaming" part of the law is interpreted...of course its also not the fault of someone who has a dog that would kill a free roaming invader...

but I personally would hope people would put in the effort to socialize their dogs (Yorkie to GD) to not be social aggressive dogs, and of course as I said before on here my Elvis flips out the neighborhood cats...but I correct him, we're working on it...via the effort I put in.

All cat's lives are cut dramatically, half or more, when allowed to roam outside. The OP also said this cat was a TOM cat, which also means he was outside allowed to mate with all the feral cats in the neighborhood and beyond. Tom cats travel miles to mate, and get in dangerous cat fights in the process which causes terrible puncture wounds and death. I certainly don't mind a neighbor's cat on my property, but I find it difficult to believe a cat owner with a tom cat who by nature, roams,hunts, fights, and mates, can have their life snuffed out of them in an instant while the owner has no idea where he is, or where to look when it never comes home, being responsible. Most veterinarians recommend cats be confined to the house for their safety.

[concretegurl]

My outdoor cat lived to 12 years old...but I see your perspective...my female (his litter mate) was hit by a car and died at 4 years old.
I called him a Tom Cat and realized that I forgot the real meaning is that they are unaltered...mine was altered...good point about it being irresponsible having a free roaming outdoor cat that is unaltered. In two places I've lived I've fed and trapped feral cats from feral cat colonies here: well the humane society provided the traps adn then I'd drive them in to be altered& vaccinated and then picked them up and re-released them...they don't make for adoptable pets...the kittens if caught would be kept and adopted out

Originally Posted by Cha Cha

All cat's lives are cut dramatically, half or more, when allowed to roam outside. The OP also said this cat was a TOM cat, which also means he was outside allowed to mate with all the feral cats in the neighborhood and beyond. Tom cats travel miles to mate, and get in dangerous cat fights in the process which causes terrible puncture wounds and death. I certainly don't mind a neighbor's cat on my property, but I find it difficult to believe a cat owner with a tom cat who by nature, roams,hunts, fights, and mates, can have their life snuffed out of them in an instant while the owner has no idea where he is, or where to look when it never comes home, being responsible. Most veterinarians recommend cats be confined to the house for their safety.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by Coton Momma

Well, Hubby is not quite sure about a Yorkie for a few reasons. One is that Angel is still little, just five months, but still not house trained. Both of us have always had large, easy to train breeds. Our last girl was a Border Collie and VERY smart even by BC standards. She was house trained in a few days. Next are health issues and the cost of them. Cotons have few issues but Yorkies have their share. He is worried about paying vet bills once he retires in five or so years. I am looking at insurance. So it is not really a Yorkie he has reservations about but another dog period. I hope that once I get Angel trained up he will be more willing. I REALLY think a Yorkie would be a good companion for Angel.

Oh, I hope one day you will be blessed to own a Yorkie if that is what you decide, as they are a wonderful breed. Still, I really do understand it is a decision one must think about long and hard. I know how expensive they can be to care for with their dentals under anesthesia, propensity for LP, CT, etc. It seems they are subject to their share of mishaps due to their size and temperament. Despite their tiny size, they can be absolutely fearless when it comes to perceived territorial threats; and at least in Tibbe's case, have poor judgment as to whether or not they are subject to the laws of gravity! I have to watch him like a hawk due his habit of "living on the edge". He is full of the love of life, a desire to be involved in everything everywhere and rarely thinks before he acts when on a sudden mission!!! Despite my best attempts to train him otherwise so far, he can absolutely fly over his doggie steps and bound off the couch onto the floor or run just along the very edge of the bed trying to get to his bedroom doggie steps in reaction to a noise he needs to check out. He is just so fast and wreckless as to be up and gone before I even hear or see anything! That reaction is why he fiercely races after any cat, squirrel, large black bird, etc., in his yard. He is 110% terrier. He would probably do equally well in Cirque du Soleil and earth dog trials! These are things to think about before bringing a Yorkie home, as I think many of them are like Tibbe in these ways.

[rockbaker]

I can't imagine letting any of my 4 dogs outside alone....and I have a large metal fence...I just don't trust the outside world...


doesn't matter what time of day or night it is...I'm right there with them...

between hawks, neighbors, garbage from the neighbors, etc...no way..

not even a doggy door....

roxanne in NC

[lexi43]

That was a pretty mean post. My friend and I have 15 cats between us and 5 dogs. If you don't like cats that's your choice but don't make comments because many of us have cats as well as yorkies. As far as cats killing birds I've seen many a dog kill a bird. I don't like to see any animal dead except for some human animals.

[KazzyK810]

Originally Posted by lexi43

That was a pretty mean post. My friend and I have 15 cats between us and 5 dogs. If you don't like cats that's your choice but don't make comments because many of us have cats as well as yorkies. As far as cats killing birds I've seen many a dog kill a bird. I don't like to see any animal dead except for some human animals.

As you didn't quote it....to which of the previous posts are you referring?

Are you saying you have 15 cats & 5 dogs in one household??? In my community that would be considered animal hoarding and would be violation of local ordinance.