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Old 03-11-2011, 11:33 AM   #61
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Oh birds! Mine go crazy to get the birds in the yard!

I forgot they freaked out during our construction here...I swear for a few brief moments I thought we were being haunted...okay it was late at night I was watching the haunted show on animal planet waiting for the boy to get off work and the dog would growl and freak out n the kitchen...NOTHING WAS THERE!!!

I was semi concerned...then even more so when I found mouse droppings across my kitchen counter-ewwwwww...that was one brave mouse...but i boarded up the area and put up snap traps...don't want my dogs hurt or sick over a mouse...of course I used a snap trap to end the mouse instantly...humane euthanasia and all...don't like sticky traps they are cruel and poison is well who wants a decomposing mouse in their wall or one that your dog could eat when found...again-ewwww, do we all check the vitamin K level of our dogs?
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[QUOTE=concretegurl;3459192]Bengals are very dangerous in the same way wolf-dogs are huh?-...people assume they are a cat/dog and treat them as such ignoring the wild animal part that is inbred in them...We were just talking about that...I'd love get a Wolf but I have dogs and kids and the chase instinct and response to any type of "weakness" will most likely result in a dangerous incident...just not worth the risk to me, or in creating an irresponsible unfair situation to all here.

Bengals are bred by an Asian Leopard cat (small wild cat from Bay of Bengal) with a domestic cat - tabbies were one of the first ones bred. The first and second generation are quite wild. My breeding females were 4th generation and their offsprings were even more removed from the wild. Mine were extremely friendly with anyone who came to my home. The term "wolf-dog" would I assume, be the first or second generation and not too trustworthy - I have know experience so can't judge. For my cats' own protection they have always been inside. Not too irresponsible, don't you think??
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Has anyone said if they thought the cat might have died from a heart attack when or before the time of the fight? Maybe the little thing had a heart murmur and the stress from it all caused it's death. Just a thought.
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Nope that's exactly the same the first three hybrid generations fo wof-dog hybrids are especially concerning in behavioral issues it's the 4 th generations that are "safer" etc...that must be some kind of wild hybrid rule of thumb etc.

I don't know seems responsible to me. Were they given ample room and habitat and allowed outside in an enclosed area-my opinion of course on my opinion of standards of care and responsibility. People have house cats but I'm guessing Bangels are not the same obviously...I feel bad for house cats too though never allowed out...I mean if they can't be out for their safety or other's I'd hope they'd get an enclosure to be able to be "out" in some form.

I'm more familiar with pure wolfs than hybrids but am aware of their issues etc. Friend had a bobcat kittens...no really bob cat (lynx) was impregnated by a domestic cat...

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Bengals are very dangerous in the same way wolf-dogs are huh?-...people assume they are a cat/dog and treat them as such ignoring the wild animal part that is inbred in them...We were just talking about that...I'd love get a Wolf but I have dogs and kids and the chase instinct and response to any type of "weakness" will most likely result in a dangerous incident...just not worth the risk to me, or in creating an irresponsible unfair situation to all here.

Bengals are bred by an Asian Leopard cat (small wild cat from Bay of Bengal) with a domestic cat - tabbies were one of the first ones bred. The first and second generation are quite wild. My breeding females were 4th generation and their offsprings were even more removed from the wild. Mine were extremely friendly with anyone who came to my home. The term "wolf-dog" would I assume, be the first or second generation and not too trustworthy - I have know experience so can't judge. For my cats' own protection they have always been inside. Not too irresponsible, don't you think??
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I guess you're right Steve. I guess I'm just over emotional when it comes to dogs and cats. Sorry about that.
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Bengals are very dangerous in the same way wolf-dogs are huh?-...people assume they are a cat/dog and treat them as such ignoring the wild animal part that is inbred in them...We were just talking about that...I'd love get a Wolf but I have dogs and kids and the chase instinct and response to any type of "weakness" will most likely result in a dangerous incident...just not worth the risk to me, or in creating an irresponsible unfair situation to all here.

Bengals are bred by an Asian Leopard cat (small wild cat from Bay of Bengal) with a domestic cat - tabbies were one of the first ones bred. The first and second generation are quite wild. My breeding females were 4th generation and their offsprings were even more removed from the wild. Mine were extremely friendly with anyone who came to my home. The term "wolf-dog" would I assume, be the first or second generation and not too trustworthy - I have know experience so can't judge. For my cats' own protection they have always been inside. Not too irresponsible, don't you think??
Bengals are beautiful you are lucky to have them. I have regular domestic cats but they are my babies I love them to death
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[QUOTE=concretegurl;3459263]Nope that's exactly the same the first three hybrid generations fo wof-dog hybrids are especially concerning in behavioral issues it's the 4 th generations that are "safer" etc...that must be some kind of wild hybrid rule of thumb etc.

I don't know seems responsible to me. Were they given ample room and habitat and allowed outside in an enclosed area-my opinion of course on my opinion of standards of care and responsibility. People have house cats but I'm guessing Bangels are not the same obviously...I feel bad for house cats too though never allowed out...I mean if they can't be out for their safety or other's I'd hope they'd get an enclosure to be able to be "out" in some form.

I'm more familiar with pure wolfs than hybrids but am aware of their issues etc. Friend had a bobcat kittens...no really bob cat (lynx) was impregnated by a domestic cat...

Funny you ask - the first thing we did when we moved into our home wasn't renovating our house - instead we fully insulated our garage for the cats, and installed three small windows that opened into a 16'long x32'wide by 8'high doubled wired outside run we built so neighbourhood cats couldn't have any contact with my cats. I have heard of people breeding cats with stacks of cages on top of each other - disgusting in my opinion. Before anyone criticizes me; cats that are not neutered and spayed will spray and are not suited to be inside a home. I also was a fully licensed and registered cattery which I was very proud of. People could come to my home to see my cats anytime they wanted. When my daughter was born I knew I couldn't put the same amount of time in to taking care of my cats and had them spayed and neutered and kept them as pets. I still have one girl left, from my first litter and she is a happy 15 1/2 year old sweetie! Hope this answers any concerns.
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I love it how creative!

Yes cages are sickening I can't believe people do that to animals...some people are sick...my Scoobers is a pup mill rescue dog...pretty familiar with the aftermath rehabilitation it takes to undo the psychological issues from such treatment.

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Too add to that, rats can be different sizes in different parts of the world from pretty small to pretty darn big and a rat or a squirrel can put up a fight every bit as much a cat can. Have you ever seen the teeth on a pack rat? WOWZWER! These Terriers may be small but they can also be mighty. When they want to turn it on, they can! I have always said cats have the advantage only if they can get up and out of reach or get away.
Wait a minute! My husband says I am a pack rat and my teeth aren't big (of course I have dentures)
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I would be sick at heart if my dog killed a cat no matter where it happened but I don't think you can be blamed unless you just watched it happen and didn't intervene.
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Tucker has a very high prey drive, but Im not sure if he would or could kill a cat. He chases my cats around the house on a daily basis and they will go round and round with hissing and barking so yeah you can definitly tell that they are "fighting" sometimes he does get rough enough that I need to separate them but he has never physically hurt them or the cats him. My dogs are kept on leashes when outside, but he does try to chase the birds, wild rabbits, and my mom cats when they are in the yard and he wants to go after them so bad that he barks, whines and yelps untill I bring him in the house. Honestly, Im not sure if a Yorkie could kill a cat or not, but I agree that you would of heard some kind of fight if he was truly hurting that cat.
I have 3 cats that were all rescused as kittens, That I refuse to let outside and feel that they are much safer, healthier and happier in the house and that Im a reponsible pet owner for doing so. I have pulled too many of my own (a long time ago), the neighbors and stray cats out of the road, To ever let them out!
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I used to raise Bengal cats 9 years ago. I still have 4. One is my 17 year old stud cat. He has no claws or teeth but he is still very strong. My Bengals are all very sweet and loving and fetch better than some of my dogs. My cats are never allowed outside; inside cats live much longer and do not have as many health problems. My yorkie, Ceasar, does not approach the Bengals but will try to play with some of my other cats.

I hate what happened to the cat. I love both dogs and cats. I hope everyone has a great weekend!!
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Are talons in the uk? Never saw them here in Wales, I honestly have no idea, It was to full of blood to examine it, I just bagged it and gave it to my Neighbour since she would not do it, I know my yorkie could not have done that much damage to it, I am thinking it was killed by a fox, Though there is nothing except a bird that could get in to my garden, Except a cat jumping over the fence, The cat was pretty warm on a cold day, and a Fox could not get in the garden, It is either my yorkie or a bird of prey, I would accept a bird of prey but I saw my yorkie pounce at it in the long grass at the corner of my garden, I never saw the cat until it was dead, I just saw my dog stalking up to the long grass then pouncing.
http://www.fernbank.edu/Birding/bird_feet.htm You have birds of prey too. Their are many types of hawks and owls. These birds are all over the world.
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