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01-26-2011, 10:49 PM | #1 |
YT Addict | First Incidence of shaking with fear! Hi Everyone ~ The hubby and I were watching the newest Shrek tonight (which was great btw) and at the end there were loud trumpet sounds. They were similar to trumpet raspberries like you would do to a baby's tummy...only way I can describe it but loud. All of a sudden Teddi just wanted to cuddle in - to EITHER of us and was shaking like a leaf!! My first instinct was of course to cuddle and soothe. My concern is what is the correct behavior when he is frightened of something to that extent? He notices / watches the TV quite a bit - recognizing it is there. The first time he realized it he started barking and looking for the guy on the screen. I have been able to get him past his camera fear by introducing it slowly while I am holding it. I then will put it down and take a few steps away so he can investigate - pick up the camera again etc. He used to fear bark at the camera. He has NEVER shaken from fear before!! We have not oversitmulated, he is in puppy class, takes walks, does training and has a sitter who owns a boarding facility but takes him into her house as her own to sit for him and lets him run with her pups. She also took care of Gizzy when he was ill and we had to work. Regardless of why - I would just like to know what to do about it when it happens... He acts as though he has been abused with this sound before or something. Are we supposed to ignore and let him work it out on his own? I'm so worried... Thanks for any advice and sorry this is so long...
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01-27-2011, 12:17 AM | #2 |
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| I found this...hope it helps a little: Shy or fearful puppies may grow up as extremely needy and may always look towards their owners for support in almost every situation they come across. And when this behavior becomes a habit, your dog may start to initiate aggression if he is not getting the soothing attention needed. This behavior could be labeled as aggression induced by fear. While you to caress and soothe your Yorkie puppy every time he is showing the feeling of extreme shyness and frightened, you are not helping him after all, instead you are just reinforcing the behavior. You might find it hard and heart breaking to ignore your puppy when he is shy and scared, but ignoring him is one of the ways to help him change his behavior and help him become bold and social animal with acceptable behaviors. Patience is virtue, as what many people always say. Yorkie dogs that are shy and timid must be handled patiently when you really want to help them adjust. Behaviors that he is used to do when scared will need to be stopped. Hope that helps!
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01-27-2011, 05:38 AM | #3 | |
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01-27-2011, 05:45 AM | #4 |
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| I agree it's hard not to cuddle, I made that mistake when Andy was a wee pup, I try to correct that by smiling at him and saying what's going on little man. My voice is calm I say get your toy taking his mind off it. Phew panic is diverted lol
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01-27-2011, 06:59 AM | #5 |
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| Whenever they show fear, just tell them it is all right and never pamper them!
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01-27-2011, 08:19 AM | #6 |
YT Addict | Thank you! I guess I already knew that ~ the no cuddling thing - but it IS really hard not to and it was his first incident...I will definitely be stronger during the next one! We did try the diversion tact to no avail!! Poor little guy...was shaking like a leaf! He has never done that before so I guess I was taken by surprise No excuse I know but it broke my heart. He is usually so bold and fearless! Also I have been thinking about taking him with us more to gigs and such but if he is nervous or frightened maybe I should ease into it. I just can't seem to find the right time. We are a bit over cautious because of what we went through with our Darling Gizmo recently. My sitter keeps reminding me that Teddi is healthy and should be treated as such. Didn't think we weren't but... Thank you all for your caring words! I was afraid someone would tell us to just ignore him and I know we could never do that!
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01-27-2011, 08:21 AM | #7 |
YT Addict | Just love the "little man" thing!! Adorable and will be using that, thanks!
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01-27-2011, 08:53 AM | #8 |
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| I hadn't had Kacee any time, when I decided to make some homemade ice cream one day. You should have seen her running out of the room and as far away as she could get when I turned that thing on! She got over it! She was just a baby then and it was something new.
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01-27-2011, 09:30 AM | #9 | |
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01-27-2011, 09:37 AM | #10 |
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| I dont know about not showing any comfort when a yorkie shakes. When I give my Jewels some attention when she shakes it is reasuring to her. I dont want her thinking I dont care when somethings bothering her. I agree you shouldnt make a big fuss but a little comfort is okay. I had 2 kittens that were shaking because they had just been spayed that day and I gave them alot of attention and love and now their bond to me is stronger. I just want strong bonds with my pets
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01-27-2011, 09:56 AM | #11 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | It is hard to see a wee pup shaking from fright. What I have done, and this was with a 7mth black russian pup; she was terrified of her first exposure to fire crackers, she was out in backyard with dh, and after that loud bang, ran pell mell to garden door, I let her in and she ran underneath a chair in the garden room. I've never seen eyes so big,and surrounded by so much white. I called our other dogs into the room, I sat down in the chair next to her, and called the dogs to my feet. I just calmly talked to the other two, turned the TV on, and then she came out and laid at my feet, I gave a few pets, then just chatted with the dogs. When her quivering had stopped, I walked up to kitchen and everyone got some treats. We have worked with loud sounds since then; like banging a lid onto a pot when in the kitchen (reassuring cooking smells is coupled with nasty bang sound), in backyard when bbqing, dropping the lid down (loudly). Lawn mower, etc. She stills startles to thoses sounds, but only a bit and doesn't shake or quiver. Firecrackers when she is in the house is a little harder, she will shake for a bit, and outside she will try to bolt for home, but it is getting better.
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01-27-2011, 10:21 AM | #12 |
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| I have not had any problems with Remy -- except when we go for a car ride. But... my shih tuz had terrible anxiety issues. He will not let anyone pet him (out of his family-- who he is very loving toward). I had a bad icident at a dog park.. he got so afraid that he planted himself between my feet and defended me against every dog that came near. I am sure I transmitted my nerves to him (not fun seeing your little shih tuz stand up to a 100 lb dog!!) I have been working on socialization and it has gotten some better. So it seams the advice given is great.. just like a baby who falls and looks around to see if anyone is watching before he cries.. a lot of behavior is learned from how we react.
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01-27-2011, 01:20 PM | #13 |
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| My nearly 3 yr old yorkie is sometimes very fearful. The fire alarm , for example sends her into complete terror. A power outage is anther good example of fear , shaking, and running as fast as she can to get away. What I do is allow her to go in one of the bedrooms. She likes my sons room the best. We do comfort her to a certain extent. It it too hard to ignore her when she is so scared . My son does most of the holding and reassuring her that it will be allright. I hope it is not reinforcing the behavior.... We just want to show her we care , and help her feel safe. I do not think a little comfort is a bad thing to do. She is fearful of riding in the car too. We do our best though. She use to become carsick. Not anymore. She is a very good little watchdog though. Loves people, and very energetic. Those qualities far outweigh her fears . Suzi has not gotten use to the things that scare her either. I don't think we can desesintize all of her fears. One other thing she is scared of is the stairs off our balcony. This is a + . She never runs down them. OUr shih tzu has followed in her footsteps. Thankgoodness for that. Sometimes fear can be a good thing.
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01-27-2011, 01:57 PM | #14 |
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| I've learned it's really important not to let your little one hide, run away from things or situations that scare them... or pet them while they are fearful......because that does eventually foster aggression!!..... My sisters dog was allowed to run to her bed...or her dog carrier...and hide every time she was frightened....then they would try to sooth her by petting her in this fearful state.... SO eventually she got so worked up she bit my Daizy right thru her eye...when Daizy came near her in this fearful state...(thank goodness her tooth just went into Daizy's tear ducts...Vet gave us salve..she is fine) BUT we knew we had to start addressing her issues......so we removed EVERY bed, carrier...and hiding place that we could...exposed her to her fears....and new experiences....we didn't let her run away....(we did it a little bit at a time over several months).........also her family stopped petting Blossom when she was fearful and shaking.....it really did work... Now her Blossom is the most loving balanced dog! I couldn't imagine her ever biting one of my babies now!
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01-27-2011, 10:43 PM | #15 |
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| Shaking Everybody who has replyed has had some real nice tips but one other thought, though this doesn't sound like it applies to you right now, like Lil Sis said "just like a baby who falls and looks around to see if anyone is watching before he cries.. a lot of behavior is learned from how we react" OR it's a show for sympathy/attention. Now as I said, yours doesn't sound like that but Sprocket will sometimes when we are out and about will take and have the "shivers" you know the ears tremble, pitiful looks, poor baby, etc. and what does he get? OH poor baby, he's cold, he's afraid, etc., he gets attention. The ladies just melt and he sucks it up, oh he works it really well, little poop, they try to be nice and he acts afraid. I know it's an act because as Wabbit noted working on the social skills of an acceptable dog/owner is important. And we sure worked hard on those ones, maybe to hard on the social-ness of the skills? LOL. Anyway, good luck, with your love/support Teddi will get better and he will be the independent social being with others that he is with you.
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