Feeling A Little Guilty.

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by love1yorkie

when folks start judging and putting their "idea' about how we do things into their own words. Ridiculous. BTW, I have a class B lic. kennel lic, local business lic DBA all the above. And this woman never bought a dog from me...I ststed that i joked with them about a very sweet deal and it seems only the people you seem to be the most generous with come back and actually criticize. This lady did NOT get the dog they wanted and then complained. Another customer on YELP got a dog from my mom and then started blogging that she SAVED her Perfectly healthy dog....Nutcases. They think this and that. If they just stated the facts it would be much less hurtful. The Yelp customer felt she overpaid and threated blackmail virtual attack if I did not give her dog to her for $300.00 because she found other pups for that price the day later. C'mon I know and deal face to face with any customer I meet( there aren't that many) I know every single one. And some of them turn out to be creeps. be honest..you never had a really unreasonable customer or someone you met that acted irrationally? This original poster stated she felt guilty for NOT getting it as if she was supposed to rescue it. Ridiculous..I cannot stand Martyrs. Not one of them was saving a dog, they were BUYING a dog. If they want to save them then go do the work, dedicate your life and get on with it. Ah poor little pampered YORKIES do not need their saving or sympathy. My dogs are so pampered indoor and outdoor gardens and sleep in a bed with myself and my children every night. Our kennel gets opened in the morning and the race is on to see who can find the cat first. Save someone who needs it....you all are funny.

If you don't screen your potential buyers well, you most definitely will wind up selling to "creeps". That just proves you are willing to sell to anyone who has the money to pay, not a good breeder in my book, and many others here feel the same. If you REALLY cared for your dogs, you would make sure no creep would ever get one of your dogs, but you don't.

If anyone pays over $300 for a mixed breed dog they ARE overpaying. Go to the local shelters where they are full of mixed breed dogs and adopt one for $80.

The fact that you breed mixed breeds says volumes about you.

[love1yorkie]

I asked God many years ago to give me happiness. God said, No, I will give you many blessings, Your happiness is up to you !!! Merry Christmas to all of you and your fur babies!!

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

Normally you don't wind up being licensed and inspected UNLESS you are selling large quantities of pups and more often because you are selling wholesale to pet stores and brokers. The small breeders, breeding for quality and not profit do not have to get involved with the USDA licensing and inspection routines. Puppymills and large scale breeders do.

The District Attorney for Santa Clara County (San Jose is the city and as such uses the county DA) is a WOMAN! So, I don't think you have your facts right unless it is an unconventional marriage using "husband" as a term.

I thank you for your service -- I too am a vet -- retired Navy (22 years active). Hardly think it a good entrance to say everyone here are mean people. We have some of the most compassionate, caring, and charitable people in the world as YT members.

It was specific things from the first post that we spoke to. I still believe what I wrote. If those things were said and done, it was wrong. Woundn't matter who did it -- still wrong.

Are you going to address what Debra asked you?

Originally Posted by love1yorkie

Thank you to all the people who have written me private notes apologizing. It was very hurtful and upsetting trying to defend the Labels people try and pin on you. We love our animals, all our babies and YES, I love setting up my pups playpen at the boutique and my dad's tractor repair and my sister's nursery . We've done this for over 20 yrs. and no one ever called a any of the POP culture labels because we simply do not fall into the sludge of those bad people. We actually do rescue several times a year. But a Big Thank you to the private messages . We work really hard to maintain very high standards and take a lot of pride in our family, pets and homes. KC

Why would they apologize in private? If they truly were apologetic, they would do so in the public forum.

If anyone did truly apologize, for what? why do it in private? hmmm.

[capt_noonie]

I will post this here so everyone can see, no need to post on my profile.

were all your dogs rescued or did you buy them??????

As i have stated on other threads and many times since I have been a member of YT, I bought my ONE dog before i knew any better. i knew not to buy from pet shops, but did not know of brokers. You said you are both. I know now what I did was wrong, and I work with rescue now to try to right my own wrong. i also foster. I do all i can to help people from making the same mistake I did, many others here feel the same. I am glad that I am fairly lucky with mine who only have grade 2 lp, and only very mild pancreatitis. Just read a bit on here and see how many people have sickly puppies bought from breeders like you who do no testing, don't know their lines, continue to breed dogs with genetic conditions that are passed along, like the "spastic" puppy you admit his sire also had the same condition. I ask you why did you breed the sire? Like i said, your actions show what kind of breeder you really are.

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by love1yorkie

I guess I'm just the dog you're kicking today..right Capt noonie..attacking anyone within bite range. You're so super sweet . I think you need a muzzle or a debark surgery.

I am against muzzles and especially against debarking surgery. i believe in training. and I don't kick dogs. i will though stand my ground against people like yourself.

[EmmaPeel]

...for suspending this poster. It was getting really old and she was becoming nasty to others.

Nobody needs to endure that...ESPECIALLY during this time of the year.

Merry Christmas to you all!!!!!

[Mardelin]

It amazes me when people resort to name calling when they're backed against the wall. No surprise here....from one that is cross breeding it speaks volumes.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

She was the first to review, as stated on yelp and that was in January of this year 2010.

Can you explain all of the filtered reviews? Reviews don't filter for no reason.

i wouldn't pay a penny more than $300 for a mix either. Much less actually

I wouldn't pay a penny for a mix. Geez, got them for free growing up. If I want a mix I'll go to a shelter.

[capt_noonie]

The tags are still there. I guess if someone were to search for a yorkie breeder in the bay area, this thread would likely pop up, so i guess that's why they left it in?

[concretegurl]

Quote:
Originally Posted by capt_noonie http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/ima...s/viewpost.gif
She was the first to review, as stated on yelp and that was in January of this year 2010.

Can you explain all of the filtered reviews? Reviews don't filter for no reason.

i wouldn't pay a penny more than $300 for a mix either. Much less actually

I wouldn't pay a penny for a mix. Geez, got them for free growing up. If I want a mix I'll go to a shelter. -Mardelin
Hybrid hating for the Holidays?-Really? I hope I'm just sleep deprived and way off here...I can see the real animal lover coming out in comments like that...although going to a shelter is a good idea...you can find a lot of purebreds there too...but I was wondering what this all had what to do with the thread? I understand some people obvious for good reason have their views about purebreds and towards mixes, but really is it necessicary to say that any life otherwise has no value? I love my Schnorkie and I paid well none of anyone's business, but more than any of you would obviously for him-to a rescue...
Huh I paid $10 for a three legged Russian dwarf hamster once too...pet store didn't realize he had only three legs and when I pointed it out they were ready to well...he was "defective" gotta love that mentality...of course I didn't breed him either, but no need to be rude...

[manina]

Originally Posted by jencar98

EmGo11....you absolutely did the right thing! First off the pet store wasn't holding an adoption event....they were allowing a breeder to sell puppies. The only difference between the pet stores normal practice of just offering pups for sale, was to have a breeder there to peddle the pups. Secondly, if this pup was acting spastic, you can bet there is a reason for it and the issue most likely wasn't/isn't going to be inexpensive to treat, if it's possible to be treated.

Also, I agree with Debra....timetells is most likely "Kelly" or one of her friends. This happens on YT, the breeder is made aware of a critical post, comes on pretending to be a satisfied customer. It happens often enough that this was my very first thought when I read timetells' post.

In this case, I think the username is so appropriate because....lol... time will tell.

Agree !! I would have done the same thing, If the price is too good and they're pushing and coming down on the price so fast, something is very wrong.
Can u image taking him home and to vet and be told , they can't help him. Or it will cost hundreds of dollars , by this time u r holding to your furbaby and just asking them to save them, Yes! We all fall in love with our furbabies , like if they were our kids, Hell some of us don't have kids , these furbabies are our life and we live for them.
Your Boyfriend family will find a furbabies , now they know what they want and how to get one, maybe the breeder that sold u your furbaby can help.
bark@ulatter!!!!!!
manina,mileymax

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by concretegurl

Quote:
Originally Posted by capt_noonie http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/ima...s/viewpost.gif
She was the first to review, as stated on yelp and that was in January of this year 2010.

Can you explain all of the filtered reviews? Reviews don't filter for no reason.

i wouldn't pay a penny more than $300 for a mix either. Much less actually

I wouldn't pay a penny for a mix. Geez, got them for free growing up. If I want a mix I'll go to a shelter. -Mardelin
Hybrid hating for the Holidays?-Really? I hope I'm just sleep deprived and way off here...I can see the real animal lover coming out in comments like that...although going to a shelter is a good idea...you can find a lot of purebreds there too...but I was wondering what this all had what to do with the thread? I understand some people obvious for good reason have their views about purebreds and towards mixes, but really is it necessicary to say that any life otherwise has no value? I love my Schnorkie and I paid well none of anyone's business, but more than any of you would obviously for him-to a rescue...
Huh I paid $10 for a three legged Russian dwarf hamster once too...pet store didn't realize he had only three legs and when I pointed it out they were ready to well...he was "defective" gotta love that mentality...of course I didn't breed him either, but no need to be rude...

That is not Hybrid/Mutt/Mix hating. Pretty strong statements, since you know nothing about who I am. There are mixes in the shelter that are just waiting for homes. Anyone breeding mixes purposely or breeding indiscrimantely is just adding to an over population of shelters/rescues.

I didn't ask anyone what they paid for their mix, that's their business. What I said I wouldn't pay a penny......plenty of unwanted dogs in shelters that need homes.

Oh by the way I do have a mix, a poodle/maltese mix, a rescue. Sorry, I won't apologize for my beliefs. I'm pretty strong about them, since I've volunteered in shelters

[manina]

Originally Posted by love1yorkie

I also sneak my pets in restaurants on occasion but it doesn't mean i want people to think I eat them....you people are so totally ridiculous to attack anyone you have never met.........hurts my feelings to think how much we adore our pets..my sisters and i each go to bed every night with each of our 6 yorkies..so sad this disgruntled customer who never got anything from us would try and smudge our name or create hostility toward US of all people. It leads me to believe that the "group Think" and hen pecking still is possible in this hard society. If anyone really cared to know and enjoy us as the biggest sweethearts in the Yorkie world all they have to do is see us on Facebook. If anyone wanted to get a pup from us sometimes they have to wait 6 months., and many will. We love going to the clothing boutique and letting kids sanitize and sharing our babies. We always wait until they are 9-10 week after their 2nd shot. Why would I risk suck a huge investment?Hmmm, now that sounds like common sense. because , we love the breed and we love our friend's store and it brings people in and they are Happy when they pet a pup and I answer so many questions on care and feeding a nd realistic _vs_ unrealistic expectations. I share books and I often give referrals to other breeders i know are great and ethical. Someone sent cop in the other day to check all my permits and documents...guess what? he took my card and he and his wife came to our home and got a pup. look on our FB page at ABBY , the rescue lab no one wanted. We spent tons of money and time trying to rehab this anti social girl..she went to a Modesto PD and his family and avoided Euthanization..I have to ask myself why anyone who really does not know us would try and create bad feelings. The internet is full of violent hostile people who will stalk you and hurt you for things as many of you suggest or say about people you don't know. I have my own recipe and I am very proud because I have the very finest dogs money can buy..do you not think people will steal from us if given a reason or a chance? Think before you attack is all I say..It is really hard but reflect the way you think by being a positive and kind person. I forgive those of you who do not understand how this works.

Omg !! U got to be kidding me , You're BANNED, your friend Lilpuppylove is SUSPENDED ! Now all we need is Lucysfurbabies to show up, Who left the back door open at YT , Didn't we get enough of all 3 of u on Sat and Sun .
Yes my friends here on YT, just check out the mess this lady made under
" Another one bits the dust" that one she stared on Sun. But on Sat she was under "Very Angry Reassurance please " and she when into Sun.
Please Admin take this lady out and keep her out ! What a mess.
bark@ulater!!!!
manina,mileymiley

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by concretegurl

She was the first to review, as stated on yelp and that was in January of this year 2010.

Can you explain all of the filtered reviews? Reviews don't filter for no reason.

i wouldn't pay a penny more than $300 for a mix either. Much less actually

I wouldn't pay a penny for a mix. Geez, got them for free growing up. If I want a mix I'll go to a shelter. -Mardelin
Hybrid hating for the Holidays?-Really? I hope I'm just sleep deprived and way off here...I can see the real animal lover coming out in comments like that...although going to a shelter is a good idea...you can find a lot of purebreds there too...but I was wondering what this all had what to do with the thread? I understand some people obvious for good reason have their views about purebreds and towards mixes, but really is it necessicary to say that any life otherwise has no value? I love my Schnorkie and I paid well none of anyone's business, but more than any of you would obviously for him-to a rescue...
Huh I paid $10 for a three legged Russian dwarf hamster once too...pet store didn't realize he had only three legs and when I pointed it out they were ready to well...he was "defective" gotta love that mentality...of course I didn't breed him either, but no need to be rude...

You're missing the point entirely. This breeder purposely breeds mixed breeds. A breeder who does that and sells them for inflated prices obviously does not have the betterment of either breed in mind. They have money in their pockets in mind. Why pay 100s of $$$ for a mixed breed when there are plenty in the shelters who need good homes bc breeders like this breed willy nilly and sell to anyone.

Breeding mixes does not better either breed. It should not be purposely be done. I am not agains mixed breed dogs, I am against the people who breed them. I also think others should not pay for mixed breeds bc they are continuing the cycle of these types of breeders to create these so called designer breeds and give them cutesy names when they are not a breed at all.

Did I say I hated mixed breeds? Did I say they were ugly? Did I say they don't deserve good homes? No, so why do you think I am hybrid hater? Again, I am against the purposely breeding of hybrids.

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by concretegurl

Quote:
Originally Posted by capt_noonie http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/ima...s/viewpost.gif
She was the first to review, as stated on yelp and that was in January of this year 2010.

Can you explain all of the filtered reviews? Reviews don't filter for no reason.

i wouldn't pay a penny more than $300 for a mix either. Much less actually

I wouldn't pay a penny for a mix. Geez, got them for free growing up. If I want a mix I'll go to a shelter. -Mardelin
Hybrid hating for the Holidays?-Really? I hope I'm just sleep deprived and way off here...I can see the real animal lover coming out in comments like that...although going to a shelter is a good idea...you can find a lot of purebreds there too...but I was wondering what this all had what to do with the thread? I understand some people obvious for good reason have their views about purebreds and towards mixes, but really is it necessicary to say that any life otherwise has no value? I love my Schnorkie and I paid well none of anyone's business, but more than any of you would obviously for him-to a rescue...
Huh I paid $10 for a three legged Russian dwarf hamster once too...pet store didn't realize he had only three legs and when I pointed it out they were ready to well...he was "defective" gotta love that mentality...of course I didn't breed him either, but no need to be rude...

Mary doesn't mean she's "against" hybrids here she means that any breeder willing to sell them for as much or more than a purebred is NOT a good breeder and is only doing it for the money. hybrids are beautiful and cute dogs, but they happen in the wild all the time. we here at YT for the most part are against breeding for money and for the "pet" industry. we believe that breeding should be done to create the best possible breed standard. hybrids are not breed standard they are mixed mutts. they are cute sure, but not worth the money that bad breeders are trying to sell them for as "designer" dogs. hybrids are not recognized by the AKC and therefore do not meet any standard for the breeds they are being mixed with. it's irresponsible breeders that combine two perfectly good breeds to mix a mutt and then ask for thousands for them. it's WRONG! nothing wrong with a natural mutt, but breeding for them on purpose is not bettering either dog breed involved.