Differences between Biewer and Parti Yorkies? - YorkieTalk.com Forums

snowie · 05-16-2010, 06:05 PM

I was looking at yorkie pictures and the parti and briewer look the same. What are the differences.

JeanieK · 05-16-2010, 06:41 PM

The biewer was established in the UK and the parti in the US. The Biewer has been established as a breed of it's own, the parti has not. The parti is an AKC registered yorkshire Terrier with a color fault, the Biewers are not recognized by the AKC.

Both the parti and the Biewer, originally came from two traditional colored yorkshire Terriers parents.

You will probably get a variety of very compolicated answders, but this is the simple condensed version.

kpstoybox · 05-16-2010, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowie

I was looking at yorkie pictures and the parti and briewer look the same. What are the differences.

I own both...and the only difference I can see is one has a tail and one is docked.

In all seriousness...they both trace back to the same lines but were developed in different countries. The Biewer Yorkie is a German tri yorkie that was denied acceptance by the VDH (Germany's equililant to the AKC) and so was labeled a new breed. The parti Yorkie is an American tri Yorkie and is AKC registered.

You can get more info on the Parti Yorkie here...

THE PARTI YORKSHIRE TERRIER CLUB - Home

Biewer info can be found here...

Biewer Breed Club of America Inc. BBCA

index

BamaFan121s · 05-16-2010, 07:16 PM

Simply put...the Biewer originated in Germany (not the UK) in the mid 80's. Over the years it was selectively bred, named after the founder, and a standard was set. The standard is similar to the YT, but calls for specific color placement (white paws, tip of the tail, symetrical coloring on the head and face, etc) and calls for a tail. It has been recognized as a separate breed by some organization and can be shown in some venues. (not AKC)

Partis are tri-colored Yorkies. They can be registered with AKC, but not shown in AKC, but can be in some other venues. There is no standard set for them that allows for the non-standard coloring, but typically, most Parti breeders follow the YT standard with that as the exception.

Wylie's Mom · 05-17-2010, 05:04 AM

So...this question gets asked allllllll the time and I'd like place something short and easy to read, such as what you all said above, in The Library - so it's always there.

I'm almost afraid to ask (you know how these threads can go...)...but...which one of these would be the best one to use? Or, a combo? There are pieces in each explanation which I think are helpful and educational....but this is not my expertise, experts

.

I'd like it to just be 1 post...which is why I don't want to move this thread up to the Library.

Micah my love · 05-17-2010, 05:33 AM

Being a owner of Biewers & reading as much as i can about them & the parti's

Misty's post would get my vote it seems she has listed everything very honest as to my reading on the subject

Cirlonde · 05-17-2010, 05:45 AM

I know I'm the farthest thing from an expert, but just from what I've noticed looking at pictures...the biggest visual difference I can see is that Biewers tend to have a similar pattern/layout to their colors, as Misty said. Not always, but usually. And partis seem to have a very wide array of pattern. Some of them are mostly white, others just have patches, etc. So for the layman photo viewer, that's what I see as differences.
-C

yorkielady06 · 05-17-2010, 08:04 AM

I personally feel that kpstoybox was the most informative regarding each. She listed the websites of the Biewer club and the Parti Yorkie club. Each one has great info on them about how each came about to where they are at.
"You can get more info on the Parti Yorkie here...

THE PARTI YORKSHIRE TERRIER CLUB - Home

Biewer info can be found here...

Biewer Breed Club of America Inc. BBCA"
Just my opinion though..

Breny · 05-17-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkielady06

I personally feel that kpstoybox was the most informative regarding each. She listed the websites of the Biewer club and the Parti Yorkie club. Each one has great info on them about how each came about to where they are at.
"You can get more info on the Parti Yorkie here...

THE PARTI YORKSHIRE TERRIER CLUB - Home

Biewer info can be found here...

Biewer Breed Club of America Inc. BBCA"
Just my opinion though..

I agree, very informative, I like hers too

Breny · 05-17-2010, 09:52 AM

Great information!

Very well said. Thank you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpstoybox

I own both...and the only difference I can see is one has a tail and one is docked.

In all seriousness...they both trace back to the same lines but were developed in different countries. The Biewer Yorkie is a German tri yorkie that was denied acceptance by the VDH (Germany's equililant to the AKC) and so was labeled a new breed. The parti Yorkie is an American tri Yorkie and is AKC registered.

You can get more info on the Parti Yorkie here...

THE PARTI YORKSHIRE TERRIER CLUB - Home

Biewer info can be found here...

Biewer Breed Club of America Inc. BBCA

index

bchgirl · 05-17-2010, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpstoybox

I own both...and the only difference I can see is one has a tail and one is docked.

In all seriousness...they both trace back to the same lines but were developed in different countries. The Biewer Yorkie is a German tri yorkie that was denied acceptance by the VDH (Germany's equililant to the AKC) and so was labeled a new breed. The parti Yorkie is an American tri Yorkie and is AKC registered.

You can get more info on the Parti Yorkie here...

THE PARTI YORKSHIRE TERRIER CLUB - Home

Biewer info can be found here...

Biewer Breed Club of America Inc. BBCA

index

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Simply put...the Biewer originated in Germany (not the UK) in the mid 80's. Over the years it was selectively bred, named after the founder, and a standard was set. The standard is similar to the YT, but calls for specific color placement (white paws, tip of the tail, symetrical coloring on the head and face, etc) and calls for a tail. It has been recognized as a separate breed by some organization and can be shown in some venues. (not AKC)

Partis are tri-colored Yorkies. They can be registered with AKC, but not shown in AKC, but can be in some other venues. There is no standard set for them that allows for the non-standard coloring, but typically, most Parti breeders follow the YT standard with that as the exception.

I think the links Karen posted are good sources of information....and Bama's is a concise explanation.

Micah my love · 05-17-2010, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bchgirl

I think the links Karen posted are good sources of information....and Bama's is a concise explanation.

I totaly agree

how come i didn't say that

Pinehaven · 05-17-2010, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cirlonde

[F Sans MS]I know I'm the farthest thing from an expert, but just from what I've noticed looking at pictures...the biggest visual difference I can see is that Biewers tend to have a similar pattern/layout to their colors, as Misty said. Not always, but usually. And partis seem to have a very wide array of pattern. Some of them are mostly white, others just have patches, etc. So for the layman photo viewer, that's what I see as differences.
-C[/FONT]

The reason that most Biewers have a consistent spotting pattern is do to the fact that the gene responsible for their white markings is called the Irish Spotting gene. Characteristics of this gene are white legs, chests, neck, under body and tip of tail. White markings don't cross over the back between the shoulder and tail.

Parti's white markings on the other hand, are caused by the piebald gene and extreme white piebald gene. There is no consistent pattern with these spotting genes, it's very random. Extreme white's normally have some dark markings on head and near the tail with minimal markings on body, some extreme white piebalds are almost solid white.

Another source for learning about Parti's is this website:

CYTC...Party Color

Wylie's Mom · 05-17-2010, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bchgirl

I think the links Karen posted are good sources of information....and Bama's is a concise explanation.

Thank you all

...I will use a combo of these to create something...unless someone wants to take a shot at re-writing these 2 together.

Nancy1999 · 05-17-2010, 03:24 PM

How about this, I changed Misty's words slightly and took out the "not in the UK," and added the links people suggested and renamed them, as well as adding my favorite link! Does everyone think this is fair?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

The Biewer originated in Germany in the mid 80's. Over the years it was selectively bred, named after the founder, and a standard was set. The standard is similar to the Yorkshire Terrier, but calls for specific color placement (white paws, tip of the tail, symetrical coloring on the head and face, etc) and calls for a tail. It has been recognized as a separate breed by some organization and can be shown in some venues. (not AKC)

Partis are tri-colored Yorkies. They can be registered with AKC, but not shown in AKC, but can be in some other venues. There is no standard set for them that allows for the non-standard coloring, but typically, most Parti breeders follow the YT standard with that as the exception.

The following links have more information:

Yorkshire Terrier Club of America (YTCA)

Biewer Breed Club of America Inc. BBCA

Biewer Yorkshire Terrier National Club (BYTNC)

The Parti Yorkshire Terrier Club (PYTC)

Colorful Yorkshire Terrier Club (CYTC)

05-16-2010, 06:05 PM	#1
snowie Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 130	Differences between Biewer and Parti Yorkies? I was looking at yorkie pictures and the parti and briewer look the same. What are the differences.

05-17-2010, 05:04 AM	#5
Wylie's Mom Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 35,889 Blog Entries: 2	So...this question gets asked allllllll the time and I'd like place something short and easy to read, such as what you all said above, in The Library - so it's always there. I'm almost afraid to ask (you know how these threads can go...)...but...which one of these would be the best one to use? Or, a combo? There are pieces in each explanation which I think are helpful and educational....but this is not my expertise, experts . I'd like it to just be 1 post...which is why I don't want to move this thread up to the Library. __________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann \| Pfeiffer \| Marcel Verdel Purcell \| Wylie \| Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨°

05-17-2010, 05:33 AM	#6
Micah my love Donating YT 100K Club Member & Top YorkieTalk Poster! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: western KY Posts: 108,935	Being a owner of Biewers & reading as much as i can about them & the parti's Misty's post would get my vote it seems she has listed everything very honest as to my reading on the subject __________________ Betty & Micah my love + Yogi

05-17-2010, 05:45 AM	#7
Cirlonde YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Norman, Oklahoma, United States Posts: 402	I know I'm the farthest thing from an expert, but just from what I've noticed looking at pictures...the biggest visual difference I can see is that Biewers tend to have a similar pattern/layout to their colors, as Misty said. Not always, but usually. And partis seem to have a very wide array of pattern. Some of them are mostly white, others just have patches, etc. So for the layman photo viewer, that's what I see as differences. -C __________________ (`•.¸Proud Momma of Chloe Belle and Karli Sue¸.•´) ~.•* Jersey's Four Leaf Clovers *•.~

05-16-2010, 06:41 PM	#2
JeanieK Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa Posts: 12,552	The biewer was established in the UK and the parti in the US. The Biewer has been established as a breed of it's own, the parti has not. The parti is an AKC registered yorkshire Terrier with a color fault, the Biewers are not recognized by the AKC. Both the parti and the Biewer, originally came from two traditional colored yorkshire Terriers parents. You will probably get a variety of very compolicated answders, but this is the simple condensed version.

05-16-2010, 07:16 PM	#4
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	Simply put...the Biewer originated in Germany (not the UK) in the mid 80's. Over the years it was selectively bred, named after the founder, and a standard was set. The standard is similar to the YT, but calls for specific color placement (white paws, tip of the tail, symetrical coloring on the head and face, etc) and calls for a tail. It has been recognized as a separate breed by some organization and can be shown in some venues. (not AKC) Partis are tri-colored Yorkies. They can be registered with AKC, but not shown in AKC, but can be in some other venues. There is no standard set for them that allows for the non-standard coloring, but typically, most Parti breeders follow the YT standard with that as the exception.

05-17-2010, 08:04 AM	#8
yorkielady06 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Up North Posts: 808	I personally feel that kpstoybox was the most informative regarding each. She listed the websites of the Biewer club and the Parti Yorkie club. Each one has great info on them about how each came about to where they are at. "You can get more info on the Parti Yorkie here... THE PARTI YORKSHIRE TERRIER CLUB - Home Biewer info can be found here... Biewer Breed Club of America Inc. BBCA" Just my opinion though..