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Old 02-17-2010, 06:54 AM   #31
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I just wonder if you realize how you might come across with your discouraging words about rescue? There are people reading this thread who are considering adopting from a rescue and your negativity is very disturbing. I have adopted from a yorkie rescue group and they were in no way intrusive in my personal life, nor did they ask inappropriate questions as you are suggesting. I now volunteer and foster for another yorkie rescue group and while we may have many questions, they all pertain to the well being of the pups and are very important in ensuring proper placement and a happy, healthy environment. I'm not saying adoptiing from a rescue is for everyone, but please don't give others the idea that it's a bad experience - because it isn't. These little guys in rescue are wonderful, adorable, loveable babies that deserve a good home.
Reputable rescues do everything possible to place the right family with the right dog. Yes, they do ask questions and conduct home visits, but then so do reputable breeders. It is all done in what is best for the dog. They do not want to see said dog back in rescue.

Rescue is not for everyone, and as in picking a puppy from a reputable breeder, homework should be done in advance.
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IMO, anyone that gets a dog should have to go through the same "rescue type" questioning whether you're adopting from a rescue, shelter or purchasing a pup through a reputable breeder. If there were an application process for obtaining a dog, the numbers in shelters/rescues would be reduced greatly, of that I'm certain.
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Reputable rescues do everything possible to place the right family with the right dog. Yes, they do ask questions and conduct home visits, but then so do reputable breeders. It is all done in what is best for the dog. They do not want to see said dog back in rescue.

Rescue is not for everyone, and as in picking a puppy from a reputable breeder, homework should be done in advance.
You both make excellent points. For both reputable rescues and reputable breeders, it's all about doing what is best for the dog.
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You both make excellent points. For both reputable rescues and reputable breeders, it's all about doing what is best for the dog.


It would be a better world if breeders were more thorough in who they sold to!
What a dream that we would one day not have a need for rescues, but until that happens, I say ask the tough questions! Rescue dogs have already been through a lot, so they to make sure they are going to good homes!
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I really don't see how it is possible to find a reputable breeder who is breeding a yorkiepoo. Because one of the defining factors of a reputable breeder is one who is breeding to improve the breed. There is now way to make a better yorkie by crossing it with a poodle. Most people that are breeding this way are doing it for money, and if money is their only motivation then I really doubt that they spent money on testing and other important things to insure a healthy mom and litter. Good luck with your search and decision.
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I really don't see how it is possible to find a reputable breeder who is breeding a yorkiepoo. Because one of the defining factors of a reputable breeder is one who is breeding to improve the breed. There is now way to make a better yorkie by crossing it with a poodle. Most people that are breeding this way are doing it for money, and if money is their only motivation then I really doubt that they spent money on testing and other important things to insure a healthy mom and litter. Good luck with your search and decision.
I couldn't agree more! Improving the breed is NOT mixing it with ANOTHER breed!
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Old 02-17-2010, 09:49 AM   #36
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Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone by saying that cocker spaniels are dumb. If it's any consolation, Thor is not breaking any doggie MENSA records either. To be honest, every pure bred cocker I've met is... (really dumb, sorry!), and they are ranked very low on the breed intelligence scale. I believe Border Collies are ranked the smartest. That doesn't mean cockers aren't great, loving pets.

The thing is, a good breeder is going to be very careful that none of her pets end up in shelters. She'll be very picky with her buyers. So while I think a hobby breeder who breeds mixes might be a nice person, I doubt that she's being super-rigorous about testing for genetic diseases and mandating that all her dogs are sold on a s/n contract.

I do think that some breeders are working seriously to get their breeds recognized, and they are considering all these factors. But I think the average person who thinks it's fun to breed a litter here and there is not considering the fact that she may be contributing to the massive pet overpopulation in this country. I believe as breeders and owners, we have a great responsibility to dogs on this issue, and the very least we can do is make sure we don't make it worse.

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Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone by saying that cocker spaniels are dumb. If it's any consolation, Thor is not breaking any doggie MENSA records either. To be honest, every pure bred cocker I've met is... (really dumb, sorry!), and they are ranked very low on the breed intelligence scale. I believe Border Collies are ranked the smartest. That doesn't mean cockers aren't great, loving pets.

The thing is, a good breeder is going to be very careful that none of her pets end up in shelters. She'll be very picky with her buyers. So while I think a hobby breeder who breeds mixes might be a nice person, I doubt that she's being super-rigorous about testing for genetic diseases and mandating that all her dogs are sold on a s/n contract.

I do think that some breeders are working seriously to get their breeds recognized, and they are considering all these factors. But I think the average person who thinks it's fun to breed a litter here and there is not considering the fact that she may be contributing to the massive pet overpopulation in this country. I believe as breeders and owners, we have a great responsibility to dogs on this issue, and the very least we can do is make sure we don't make it worse.
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There are rarely any little dogs in rescue or in shelters. 90% are big dogs, or dogs with serious issues and some people don't want big dogs, or have to deal with issues a rescue brings (especially little dogs).

Also, some people just don't want to deal with rescues, most get into parts of our life that are none of their business. It is easier to adopt a child then a dog..and i have done both

So people decide to go through a breeder. If she went to the pet store she could find what she is looking for, so I see no reason not to help her find a good breed who just happens to breed a mix. and lots of hobby breeders breed only one kind of mix.

Stop hating on the mixes. It is going to continue because people want them and I personally see nothing wrong with it (some mixes)..

I also want to add that I personally would never breed a yorkie with anything other than another yorkie just because they are wonderful and perfect as they are

There are actually a lot of small breeds in shelters as well as rescues. There are a lot of specific "small breed" rescues out there. I got my yorkiepoo from a rescue; he was rescued from a shelter where he was surrendered by his owner. Max is a wonderful dog who had some insecurity issues at first, but with some work and dedication, he has come a long way. He is super smart and it didn't take long for him to adjust to our home. Its almost like he knows that we rescued him. He has truly been a gift to our family; he has brought us so much joy.

No one should ever be discouraged from rescued a dog so long as the dog is good fit for their family. I think the reason that rescues get so in depth during the adoption process, is because they want to make sure the pet would be a good fit so that the dog/cat does not end up back at a shelter again. So many people get pets without thinking it through or don't want to spend the time training and therefore end up with behavioral problems. This is the main reason pets end up abandoned in the first place.
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There are rarely any little dogs in rescue or in shelters. 90% are big dogs, or dogs with serious issues and some people don't want big dogs, or have to deal with issues a rescue brings (especially little dogs).

Also, some people just don't want to deal with rescues, most get into parts of our life that are none of their business. It is easier to adopt a child then a dog..and i have done both

So people decide to go through a breeder. If she went to the pet store she could find what she is looking for, so I see no reason not to help her find a good breed who just happens to breed a mix. and lots of hobby breeders breed only one kind of mix.

Stop hating on the mixes. It is going to continue because people want them and I personally see nothing wrong with it (some mixes)..

I also want to add that I personally would never breed a yorkie with anything other than another yorkie just because they are wonderful and perfect as they are
It is going to continue because people continue to buy them! I have no problems with mixed breeds, I do know no reputable breeder intentionally breeds mixes! Yes, she can go to any pet store and buy what she wants, but does that make it right? As soon as she does, another one takes that ones place! That goes for all dogs, not just mixes! I don't know any GOOD breeder to suggest to her, the ones I know, along with myself, don't mix breed!
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It is going to continue because people continue to buy them! I have no problems with mixed breeds, I do know no reputable breeder intentionally breeds mixes! Yes, she can go to any pet store and buy what she wants, but does that make it right? As soon as she does, another one takes that ones place! That goes for all dogs, not just mixes! I don't know any GOOD breeder to suggest to her, the ones I know, along with myself, don't mix breed!
A bit off topic. But, the City of North Hollywood California just passed a law that they are unable to sell pets in pet stores. They can only place rescue dogs or sell dogs from reputable breeders. So, the reputable breeder thing is taken care of, since no reputable breeder would sell their dogs to a pet store.
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A bit off topic. But, the City of North Hollywood California just passed a law that they are unable to sell pets in pet stores. They can only place rescue dogs or sell dogs from reputable breeders. So, the reputable breeder thing is taken care of, since no reputable breeder would sell their dogs to a pet store.
YAH! Thanks Mary for the info! What a delight! I hope other city & states take notes!
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YAH! Thanks Mary for the info! What a delight! I hope other city & states take notes!
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I don't think you need to know them to know they are not responsible breeders, only people looking to profit of of innocent dogs.
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I really don't see how it is possible to find a reputable breeder who is breeding a yorkiepoo. Because one of the defining factors of a reputable breeder is one who is breeding to improve the breed.


In addition, I find the whole "hypoallergenic" marketing of dogs to be a complete load of bull. A dog is not magically "Hypoallergenic" just because it doesn't shed.
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Do you know any yorkiepoo breeders? Just because they breed a mix doesn't mean they are not responsible breeders.
Why would I refer you to a breeder I believe to be irresponsible? Wouldn't that make me the same? Just thinking out loud.
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This is a very touchy subject on the YT boards to be sure.
Please let us know how we can help you in finding a dog that is right for you.
There is nothing wrong with wanting a mixed breed puppy.
If you decide you want a Yorkie there are a number of great "reputable" breeders here on YT.
If you want to know who on YT I got my new puppy Mickey from, private message me.
I can not help out with finding a reputable Yorkiepoo breeder.
I thought Max's breeder was one...I researched a long time. Just not long enough.
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