I am soooo lost on what to do..please help!!

[red98vett]

ps. I am NOT a stupid person.

I did read your whole thread.

Matter of fact it crossed my mind to send you something because I HAVE been in your situation financially - still am ...but not to the degree I was when I lost my husband.

The reason I bolded some of your comments in RED is because those were the statements I didn't understand. I love my girls and HAVE gone without eating to keep them taken care of ....but taking them to a shelter or putting them to sleep is an option that never in a million years would even cross my mind.

There are always alternatives and while not everyone can deal with the issues you dealt with - those are the 2 that I found deplorable even if you did say it out of frustration. So again - you did the right thing.

all the best to you. I hope you find peace in your decision whatever it is.

[Lori63]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

My guess is, the woman you gave her to is not going to let you just waltz in and take her back.

When one loves their animal, they do what is best for the animal. Giving her to someone who colud afford to take care of her was good, wanting to take her back, not so good.

Remember she is still going to have the same issues when you get her back, the same reasons that you gave her away. your financial situation has not changed. You still hve two other dogs that need to see the vet.

Why not focus on doing what is best for them. And be greatful to this other person for giving your girl a nice home

Just out of my own sick curiosity, I found myself back on here to see how many people would or would not see that some of you have attacked me and see that I had the right to defend myself. I found your post and since it was that of [U]some[U] compassion, felt I would respond. The woman that has Savannah DID, in fact tell me that I was welcome to come and get her if I felt i needed to. So, yes, i CAN just waltz in there if I want....not to say that I will. All I ever needed from all of you were your opinions, given all that you were able to read from ALL of my posts. It's fine that my post from July was brought into this. Though I am, most assuredly ashamed that I allowed myself to get that flustered to say the things I said that night. I cannot take it back once it's been said. I am only human and we all have said MANY, MANY things out of anger, frustration, sadness, grief, any and every emotion we could feel that we later regretted. We have also done things out of love that we were not wise or down right stupid that we have also regretted. It was words. Words and that's all. Words typed on a keyboard. She has always known that I loved her above everything! Listen, I made it clear even in my updated post that Savannah tested me to my limits more times that I can even count. She did. She did some of the most disgusting things that sent me hurling out of my home more times than I could count. For example: She would go outside and poop and the other 2 would be out there as well. She would turn right around and eat hers and then go and eat theirs if I didn't manage to stop her in time. Then later on inside she would begin to vomit and she vomited liquid (thick) poop!!! It looked as tho someone had just crapped in my floor, carpet or whatever she did this in. There are many utterly disgusting things I could share but why?? You all would never understand this unless you have endured it. This is one event that happened that night in July to me. So in saying that, I did and do love her despite it all. She was mine! and disgusting habits, hardships or good times I loved her for all that she was to me, and meant to me and the joy that she DID give me. My 'hate'/love comment concerning her was a deplorable thing to say as well as the fact that my only alternative was to put her to sleep. Though I could and would never do that, makes it that much of a horrible thing to say. That was indeed wrong and I can understand how all could be confused. But as I said, it was a moment of frustration when I said the wrong thing. I NEVER hated her. It was a poor choice of words at a bad moment.
Jeanie, thank you for your advice. You told me all that I needed to know in the above post and I appreciate that you smoothed your words this time. Everyone has good advice and all valid. I'm sorry that I made anyone think I needed a soft sell to get thru to me. It wasn't that at all. I just wish all of you could understand how I feel and understand that it is Christmas. It's already a crappy one for me being laid off with money issues- so NO Christmas for me at all. But then, I'm having to deal without her and it's all just over-whelming. Thank you all for your advice good or bad, hateful and kind. I appreciate you all taking the time to help me.
Merry Christmas and many blessings to everyone!!!!

[YorkieRose]

I never understood why people post these types questions...my dogs are my responsiblity..I ask God to guide me in making wise choices regarding them...then I make the decision..I do consult a vet or dog friends for medical advise...but all other decisions are mine and mine alone. People can not and do not know your life and situation..and no one can know your heart and emotions..?

Why care what others think if you think you have done what is best for your pet..and if you have not done what is best..then learn from the mistake and do not make it again...

Crappy Christmas is a state of mind...people had wonderful Christmas's before Walmart,K-mart, Macy's and the mall...
Best wishes...

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I never understood why people post these types questions...my dogs are my responsiblity..I ask God to guide me in making wise choices regarding them...then I make the decision..I do consult a vet or dog friends for medical advise...but all other decisions are mine and mine alone. People can not and do not know your life and situation..and no one can know your heart and emotions..?

Why care what others think if you think you have done what is best for your pet..and if you have not done what is best..then learn from the mistake and do not make it again...

Crappy Christmas is a state of mind...people had wonderful Christmas's before Walmart,K-mart, Macy's and the mall...Best wishes...

I feel bad when people believe that it takes money to make a good Christmas.
Here in the midwest we are having a blizzard, Many families, including my own have had to change their plans.

I have a refrigerator full of food, and a beautiful table set, and no one is able to get here. But I was able to talk to them all and I am happy that they are all safe and well.

I could moan and complain how Christmas was ruined, but what good would it do. They will all make it here eventually Christmas is in your heart, not in a package under the tree.

[YorkieRose]

[QUOTE=JeanieK;2927759]:t

"I have a refrigerator full of food..."

Half the world would love a full belly today, let alone food for the week..Nothing else needs to be said....

[Lori63]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

I feel bad when people believe that it takes money to make a good Christmas.
Here in the midwest we are having a blizzard, Many families, including my own have had to change their plans.

I have a refrigerator full of food, and a beautiful table set, and no one is able to get here. But I was able to talk to them all and I am happy that they are all safe and well.

I could moan and complain how Christmas was ruined, but what good would it do. They will all make it here eventually Christmas is in your heart, not in a package under the tree.

OMG!!!! Do you all stop for 2 seconds before assuming what I do and don't mean before you begin to type????????????? I just said it was crappy. I couldn't care less if there are presents under my tree. It's not and never was about what I was or wasn't getting for Christmas!!!!!!!!!! How could you be soooo cold and on CHRISTMAS none the less!!!??? I do NOT have a refrigerator full of food so to the last lady that posted....I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE!!!!!! I don't have a beautiful table set for myself let alone anyone else!!! I still took the time to thank everyone for their advice and wished you all a wonderful and blessed Christmas and what did I get for that? More blood thirsty, unthoughtful, cold and shallow people who want to tell me what Christmas means to them?????????????? And shame on me for not being able to find joy in this!!!??? Well, ya know what? I would rather sit here with the heart that I possess than to ever be as cold and ruthless as some of you. The truth is, you last posters don't understand the meaning of Christmas at all!!!

[Lori63]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I never understood why people post these types questions...my dogs are my responsiblity..I ask God to guide me in making wise choices regarding them...then I make the decision..I do consult a vet or dog friends for medical advise...but all other decisions are mine and mine alone. People can not and do not know your life and situation..and no one can know your heart and emotions..?

Why care what others think if you think you have done what is best for your pet..and if you have not done what is best..then learn from the mistake and do not make it again...

Crappy Christmas is a state of mind...people had wonderful Christmas's before Walmart,K-mart, Macy's and the mall...
Best wishes...

I understand about the decision making. I wont ask you all again for anything. As far as YOUR interpretation of what I meant about a crappy Christmas. You are wayyyyyyyyy offff on that one! I've responded to it. Not doing it again.

[Chorkie]

I am new to this forum so I do not have any pre-set ideas about you, but seriously, if your dog was constantly eating poop, throwing up, etc. that means she needed to see a vet then. That is not normal. She wasn't doing it just to squick you out. You sound like you were mad at her - why? It wasn't her fault at all.

Sometimes we have to ask ourselves is what we really love is the animal (which would be a selfless love where you want what's best for the pet, even if that isn't you and your home) or if we what we love is the emotions we get from having the pet around (where you want the animal with you no matter what and it's about yourself, not the pet). If you truly love the animal, you're happy if they're with someone who can provide them with top notch care as well as love, even if you personally do not like the person, or the person is not nice to you.

[Lori63]

Originally Posted by Chorkie

I am new to this forum so I do not have any pre-set ideas about you, but seriously, if your dog was constantly eating poop, throwing up, etc. that means she needed to see a vet then. That is not normal. She wasn't doing it just to squick you out. You sound like you were mad at her - why? It wasn't her fault at all.

Sometimes we have to ask ourselves is what we really love is the animal (which would be a selfless love where you want what's best for the pet, even if that isn't you and your home) or if we what we love is the emotions we get from having the pet around (where you want the animal with you no matter what and it's about yourself, not the pet). If you truly love the animal, you're happy if they're with someone who can provide them with top notch care as well as love, even if you personally do not like the person, or the person is not nice to you.

This is getting almost funny that I have to keep explaining WHAT I MEAN every 2 seconds on here!!!! I did NOT even insinuate that I was mad. I simply said I was sent hurling out of my house by the look and smell of it. MEANING: I have a weak stomach and I can't stand the smell or looks of runny crap! Didn't say she MEANT to gross me out, just said it grossed me out. 2: Since when is coprophagia a symptom of a disease? Every wild animal has eat their own poop!!!! They're animals, they do those things!!! Could they get ill if they eat the poop of a diseased or sick animal???? Heck yeah! But she ate hers and my other 2 dogs poop. They aren't sick and diseased and believe it or not, she was fine other than having a UTI infection. Not due to that. She was to the vet and she HAD been seen! I never said she did this all the time. She went thru spells where she did it on occasions and other times she would do it for days, but then she'd stop. And as for your comment that dogs that eat poop isn't normal, you don't know a whole lot! Check your facts before you give false information! It's very common!

[Darlene68]

If I were in your situation, and I know that it could happen to just about anyone ( Right now I am on disability and would be in bad shape if it were not for the help of my BF ), I would leave Savannah with the lady who can afford to take her to the vet and give her the care she deserves, even though it is difficult and you miss her, that would be the unselfiish thing to do and in the best interest of the dog. You have 2 other dogs that are getting up there in age and all animals need vet care regularly, let alone the extra expensive you may have to incur with an elder pet who might one day need more involved vet care.

[J_is_my_initial]

Originally Posted by Lori63

This is getting almost funny that I have to keep explaining WHAT I MEAN every 2 seconds on here!!!! I did NOT even insinuate that I was mad. I simply said I was sent hurling out of my house by the look and smell of it. MEANING: I have a weak stomach and I can't stand the smell or looks of runny crap! Didn't say she MEANT to gross me out, just said it grossed me out. 2: Since when is coprophagia a symptom of a disease? Every wild animal has eat their own poop!!!! They're animals, they do those things!!! Could they get ill if they eat the poop of a diseased or sick animal???? Heck yeah! But she ate hers and my other 2 dogs poop. They aren't sick and diseased and believe it or not, she was fine other than having a UTI infection. Not due to that. She was to the vet and she HAD been seen! I never said she did this all the time. She went thru spells where she did it on occasions and other times she would do it for days, but then she'd stop. And as for your comment that dogs that eat poop isn't normal, you don't know a whole lot! Check your facts before you give false information! It's very common!

First I am sorry you are so heartsick. I have had to give up beloved cats due to hubby and dtr being allergic so I have felt the pain.
I did want to note coprophagia can be a symptom of a disease. From
Coprophagia | Cat and Dog Behavior and Veterinarian Care

"When adult dogs begin to eat stools, it may also be due to malabsorption of nutrients or nutritional deficiencies. In addition, any condition that might cause an increase in appetite or an unusual appetite, such as diabetes, Cushing’s disease, thyroid disease, or treatment with certain drugs such as steroids may lead to an increase in stool eating. Dogs that are placed on extreme calorie restricted or poorly balanced diets may also begin to eat their stools"

I am no means saying these were the probs but just be aware. I personally feel the dog is in a better place now. If I took in a dog for someone and bonded I would have a hard problem giving it back, esp if I thought the same problems were still there. I have 3 dogs now, the oldest at 3 yrs. Luckily with hubby and I both working and credit cards (and family) we have the money to get any help our dogs need. With Gypsy's joint problems I fear it will get to be a large amt. This is in a time when we are asking our dr for generic drugs cause we can not afford some of the newer meds. You have to do what is best for your animals even if it means heartbreak for you.

[Lori63]

Originally Posted by Darlene68

If I were in your situation, and I know that it could happen to just about anyone ( Right now I am on disability and would be in bad shape if it were not for the help of my BF ), I would leave Savannah with the lady who can afford to take her to the vet and give her the care she deserves, even though it is difficult and you miss her, that would be the unselfiish thing to do and in the best interest of the dog. You have 2 other dogs that are getting up there in age and all animals need vet care regularly, let alone the extra expensive you may have to incur with an elder pet who might one day need more involved vet care.

Thank you, Darlene for your thoughts on it. It's very much appreciated.
Merry Christmas!

[cynsir]

Lori, we are all concerned with the health of your puppy. The best thing that you did was to relinquish the pup to the vet. If you had kept your puppy and were not able to get the proper care for the puppy, what do you think would have happened? Your puppy would have died. Now your puppy has a chance to get the vet care that it needs. Yes, I can understand your anger and frustration in not being able to get the puppy back, but you did the right thing. You will at least be able to take comfort in the fact that the puppy did not die. And someone will adopt Savannah and give her the medical care that she needs. I'm not one of those do-gooders or someone who knows-it-all. I am just a person who cares dearly for my pets and if something ever happened to one of these dogs and I couldn't afford the treatment, I would in heartbeat give them up so they can get the vet care that they need. I would be devastated and miss them with all my heart, but I would know that they would be getting the care that they needed.

Please try having a happy holiday and give hugs and kisses to your puppies.

Cyndi

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Lori63

I appreciate you all taking the time to help me.
Merry Christmas and many blessings to everyone!!!!

Happy Holidays to you as well! I wish you knew how much I meant that at this moment .

I'm going to close this thread both because I see a lot of miscommunication going on...and I think that bodes badly for more miscommunication....and bc I don't really want there to be anymore hurt feelings over this situation...especially today. I hope everyone understands.

I sincerely wish you the best.