I am soooo lost on what to do..please help!!

[Lori63]

I'm sooo confused!!!

[Lori63]

Originally Posted by ging4444

If I sent you the $167 could you go get her? My heart just breaks for both of you. I hope I can help.
Ginger

OMG!! What a very special thing to offer to someone you don't even know!!! I really appreciate the sweet gesture more than you could ever know, BUT...I could never accept that. The way I see it is that if I can't do that on my own right now, then perhaps this is what's meant to be. It could be a sign. But thank you....your offer made me cry!

[Lori63]

Originally Posted by Gennies

See you do want her back. Did you sign anything with this lady giving her rights to your dog?



So this lady isn't the new owner, but a foster type of home. I'm sorry, but I do agree with others that she's just looking out for the dog and trying to get the dog to adjust. Sweetie, try putting yourself in your dog's shoes (so to speak). First, you go from your family that you've lived with your whole life and you're to live with some stranger, then your momma comes to visit only you don't know what it means to visit, you think your going home, but then momma leaves and your still with this stranger. Dogs don't understand what's going on. SO I understand the foster not wanting visits right now. If you do go I hope you bring your baby home for her sake, if she isn't coming home with you then I say don't visit. Sorry, I know you may not want to hear that but you need to think of your little one. It's your decision to make no one else's. I recommend that you decide soon, as it's not fair to your dog or the foster who's caring for her. I hope and pray for the best to you all. ((((Hugs))))

This lady IS the new owner, not a foster at all. Believe me, I understand where she's coming from and exactly what you're saying. I know it would be confusing for Savannah. I've never had to do this before in my life. I've always had my little ones with me no matter where I had to live in order to keep them. They've ALWAYS come first. If we moved and the place I wanted to live in suited me, but didn't allow pets?....Guess what? I kept looking! You have no idea the places that I've had to go for the sake of my furry companions. I've sacrificed more than anyone will ever know for them. If it came to a choice of me eating or my babies eating, you can bet that they would have the full belly as I was smiling at their content. So, to make a choice such as I have had to face, after all I have endured for them out of the deep love and commitment I have for them......well, it would bring anyone to their knees in sobbing pain. And to sit back wondering if that person is doing all you would do for them and loving them the way you did, is not asking for much considering all the years you have invested in love for the animal. If you didn't worry and fret over it, lose sleep and not be able to eat until your questions were answered, you'd have to ask yourself if you ever REALLY loved them at all. I don't know how to find this out for myself without seeing them together.

And no, nothing has been signed. She would still be considered my dog.

[Ladymom]

Lori, I am so confused now about your reasons for giving Savannah up after reading your post from July:

Ok well, for all of you that are shaming the woman that started this post with the 'have patience' comments. I have 2 yorkies. My oldest is 14, going on 15 and the youngest is 12. It took me every bit of 2 yrs to house break both of them!!! Even tho they are house-broken, they will still pee and poop in the house if they need to. BOTH have regressed to being unbroken..as tho they aren't trained at all. This is mainly due to the youngest potty habits. I don't want ANYONE to bash me and tell me that it's something that I'M doing wrong because they WERE broken!!! This breed is by far the most stubborn when it comes to housebreaking of any breed I have ever owned. The youngest of the 2 is a complete and utter tyrant that has destroyed every place I have ever lived with her nastiness. I am getting ready to have to move yet again only this time it will be without her. I have come to the conclusion that I will never have anything or be able to live a 'normal' life as long as she is sharing my dwelling. I have had all the patience anyone could possibly have while going thru this. I have trained, re-trained, and re-trained in every method ever written and some I concocted on my own. She WILLLLL lay in it, sleep in it, heck, she even eats her own poop as well as the other dogs poop! It's absolutely the grossest dog I have ever owned. I have put up with this for, as I've said, 12 years for the sake of her. She's at an age where no one will or would take her now. The no kill shelter here wont take her. So I have 1 alternative and that is to have her put to sleep. I am beyond disgusted with being forced to do such a thing when I have fought long and hard to keep her. 12 years!!!!???????? It comes a time when a person has to look at how they have to live for the sake of an animal. One such as what I have. Believe me, I love her as much as I hate her sometimes and I am not the kind of person to do what I have to do. I've cried my eyes out at the thought of this but I really have no choice left. I cannot live this way anymore. My home reeks of urine and it's just not fair! So, to the woman that is having the difficult time.....you have a long road ahead of you and chances are pretty great that potty training will never completely be done! Everyone I know with yorkies complain that they are the HARDEST to break and are rarely fully broken. They're just sneaky enough to hide the evidence well. They are beautiful, sweet companions but the down-sides to them out-weigh the good!

[JeanieK]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Sounds to me like she is where she needs to be to get the medical attention that she needs.

Maybe now that everyone sees the "the rest of the story" they will advise differently.

[jrsygal37]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

You must do the unselfish thing and think of your dogs first. Take care of the ones you have and feel good that you did what you needed to do.

It must be terribley difficult, but be happy that you found someone that could afford to take care of her. not many people would want to take on a dog with health issues.

I agree. I don't think it would be right for you to ask for her back. This woman has put quite a bit of $$ out for a her and she obviously has a big heart because she took her knowing she had health issues. As you said, you do not have the means to pay for her medical. You have two other dogs too, they are older, what happens if they get sick, then you'll have three you cannot afford. Don't mean to sound harsh but I think you did the right thing and should let it lie. Elaine

[Lori63]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

Lori, I am so confused now about your reasons for giving Savannah up after reading your post from July:

Ok well, for all of you that are shaming the woman that started this post with the 'have patience' comments. I have 2 yorkies. My oldest is 14, going on 15 and the youngest is 12. It took me every bit of 2 yrs to house break both of them!!! Even tho they are house-broken, they will still pee and poop in the house if they need to. BOTH have regressed to being unbroken..as tho they aren't trained at all. This is mainly due to the youngest potty habits. I don't want ANYONE to bash me and tell me that it's something that I'M doing wrong because they WERE broken!!! This breed is by far the most stubborn when it comes to housebreaking of any breed I have ever owned. The youngest of the 2 is a complete and utter tyrant that has destroyed every place I have ever lived with her nastiness. I am getting ready to have to move yet again only this time it will be without her. I have come to the conclusion that I will never have anything or be able to live a 'normal' life as long as she is sharing my dwelling. I have had all the patience anyone could possibly have while going thru this. I have trained, re-trained, and re-trained in every method ever written and some I concocted on my own. She WILLLLL lay in it, sleep in it, heck, she even eats her own poop as well as the other dogs poop! It's absolutely the grossest dog I have ever owned. I have put up with this for, as I've said, 12 years for the sake of her. She's at an age where no one will or would take her now. The no kill shelter here wont take her. So I have 1 alternative and that is to have her put to sleep. I am beyond disgusted with being forced to do such a thing when I have fought long and hard to keep her. 12 years!!!!???????? It comes a time when a person has to look at how they have to live for the sake of an animal. One such as what I have. Believe me, I love her as much as I hate her sometimes and I am not the kind of person to do what I have to do. I've cried my eyes out at the thought of this but I really have no choice left. I cannot live this way anymore. My home reeks of urine and it's just not fair! So, to the woman that is having the difficult time.....you have a long road ahead of you and chances are pretty great that potty training will never completely be done! Everyone I know with yorkies complain that they are the HARDEST to break and are rarely fully broken. They're just sneaky enough to hide the evidence well. They are beautiful, sweet companions but the down-sides to them out-weigh the good!

You have had absolutely nothing positive to say and then you look for more to hit me with. To make things perfectly clear, go back to ALL of my posts before you pass judgement. Perhaps the one dated just this month when I updated everyone on the 'potty training nightmares'. Savannah tho I DO love her, was a tyrant, but she was MY tyrant! All the things about them that you once found to be so annoying you find hard to get past once they aren't there. I don't expect anyone to understand another's frustrations. In July, I was living in squaller because having my babies with me meant more to me than NOT having them. It's also true that potty training them was a complete and utter nightmare! At the time, I was working the worst shift 4:30p-12:30am. It would take me 30 mins to get to work and 30 mins home. Due to having the dogs with me, the only place I could find to live was way in the middle of no where, crossing a toll booth both ways!!! I had to pay twice the amount of rent for the place AND pay toll everyday! By the time I would get home...at 1am, I would walk in the front door to the smell of pee and poop. Open Savannah's crate and find that she had gone all over it and laid in it. Now I had to get all of them outside, come back in give her a bath, put her bedding in the washer and clean the crate. This happened EVERY night. She refused to be penned up all night. She would whine and bark all night long. Having not gone to bed until 2:30-3am I would walk them all once more before going to bed. I'd be back up by 8am-9am and find she had used my living room once more as her potty pad. You have NO IDEA what I have had to go through. I, as I've said, trained and retrained and never had any success with her. I'm sorry if everyone thinks that one night of utter FRUSTRATION constitutes me as some ogre that hates her animals. I've proven that I didn't and don't by the anguish that I've been enduring over separating from her. Did I have her put to sleep or is she in a happy home??????????????? Wow! I'm amazed that you even threw that in my face! After that post and right after that post, I ended up taking her with me to allow her to use my new home as her potty pad and she lived here happily for yet another 5 months! Once my job ended in August I was able to spend more time with her and got her where she needed to be on that. My giving her up had not ONE thing to do with my frustration that night. Does anyone else want to pass judgement now? No one on this forum has EVER been frustrated??

[Lori63]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Sounds to me like she is where she needs to be to get the medical attention that she needs.

Maybe now that everyone sees the "the rest of the story" they will advise differently.

Wow you guys!!!!!!!! Read my update post, will ya? and read my response to the lady that so happily felt the need to throw me under the bus and made me look like such a BADDDDDDD PERSON!!! Sorry I'm not as perfect of a mommy as you all are! Considering I'm the only one here that has ever been THAT frustrated. Do any of you work????????? How were things when you had to potty train them, work, AND be the only person to look after them???? How were things then? Successful??????? No frustration????? Right! It was just me! Irregardless of what you think of me it's only obvious that I love my babies with all my heart. I didn't go thru this many years with all of them because I hated them. I didn't do as I threatened to do back in July. (nor could I have!!! In a million years! I was what they call VENTING! That's all!) So if everyone wants to pick me apart, go ahead. Whatever you want to do.

[Lori63]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

Lori, I am so confused now about your reasons for giving Savannah up after reading your post from July:

Ok well, for all of you that are shaming the woman that started this post with the 'have patience' comments. I have 2 yorkies. My oldest is 14, going on 15 and the youngest is 12. It took me every bit of 2 yrs to house break both of them!!! Even tho they are house-broken, they will still pee and poop in the house if they need to. BOTH have regressed to being unbroken..as tho they aren't trained at all. This is mainly due to the youngest potty habits. I don't want ANYONE to bash me and tell me that it's something that I'M doing wrong because they WERE broken!!! This breed is by far the most stubborn when it comes to housebreaking of any breed I have ever owned. The youngest of the 2 is a complete and utter tyrant that has destroyed every place I have ever lived with her nastiness. I am getting ready to have to move yet again only this time it will be without her. I have come to the conclusion that I will never have anything or be able to live a 'normal' life as long as she is sharing my dwelling. I have had all the patience anyone could possibly have while going thru this. I have trained, re-trained, and re-trained in every method ever written and some I concocted on my own. She WILLLLL lay in it, sleep in it, heck, she even eats her own poop as well as the other dogs poop! It's absolutely the grossest dog I have ever owned. I have put up with this for, as I've said, 12 years for the sake of her. She's at an age where no one will or would take her now. The no kill shelter here wont take her. So I have 1 alternative and that is to have her put to sleep. I am beyond disgusted with being forced to do such a thing when I have fought long and hard to keep her. 12 years!!!!???????? It comes a time when a person has to look at how they have to live for the sake of an animal. One such as what I have. Believe me, I love her as much as I hate her sometimes and I am not the kind of person to do what I have to do. I've cried my eyes out at the thought of this but I really have no choice left. I cannot live this way anymore. My home reeks of urine and it's just not fair! So, to the woman that is having the difficult time.....you have a long road ahead of you and chances are pretty great that potty training will never completely be done! Everyone I know with yorkies complain that they are the HARDEST to break and are rarely fully broken. They're just sneaky enough to hide the evidence well. They are beautiful, sweet companions but the down-sides to them out-weigh the good!

UPDATE!!!!!

Lori63;2924519]This is an update on my 12 yo. I kept her afterall but ended up finding her a good home just 3 days ago. We did move and I brought her along. She surprised me and did well here, at least as best as she could. As it turns out and after many trips to the vet, I found out that she was having an issue that was causing her to pee the way she was peeing. She had a UTI twice! Her health began to deteriorate and after having tried to give the vets in my area chance after chance to fix her so that I could keep her and we could all be happy again, they failed us both. Miserably!! I spent all that I had to get her help. I've been unemployed for almost 5 months now and there's no one hiring anywhere near me. Living on a measly unemployment check to pay it all. Savannah needed health care. She was going out and doing her business and I would praise her and give her treats and it became a game to her. She knew if she went out and even dribbled she'd go in and get a treat. But I'd find dribbles in the floor and the towel in her box soaked. Her urine reeked of cat urine. The vet told me she had a high ph in her urine and that was it!!!! She had also developed a cough that the vet told me not to worry about! Yes! they were horrible people!!!!!! You go looking for answers and these are the answers you get!!!! Right now she is with an older lady that has nothing but time, money and patience. I am immensely heartbroken, having cried for the last 3 days virtually non-stop. I miss her more than I ever imagined I would. I've said this before but I've never had an animal test me to the limits she tested me. In the end tho, I did all that I could to help her and keep her with me. She was a very loving part of our family and was worth all that I endured. I will always, always miss her!!!

[Crickettsmom]

From reading your posts, I feel that you did the right thing for your baby, she is now getting the medical attention that she needs. I know it has to be hard for you to let her go, but you need to let her go. She is getting the care now that you were unable to provide by no fault of yours. Think of her and the benefits she will get from this, not how your heart is hurting. In time that will get better. If you take her back is she going to be anybetter off than she was before you rehomed her? She needs the medical attention and it will only get worse as she ages. Please take comfort in knowing you did the right thing by finding her a new home. Have a Merry Christmas!!!

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Lori63

You have had absolutely nothing positive to say and then you look for more to hit me with. To make things perfectly clear, go back to ALL of my posts before you pass judgement. Perhaps the one dated just this month when I updated everyone on the 'potty training nightmares'. Savannah tho I DO love her, was a tyrant, but she was MY tyrant! All the things about them that you once found to be so annoying you find hard to get past once they aren't there. I don't expect anyone to understand another's frustrations. In July, I was living in squaller because having my babies with me meant more to me than NOT having them. It's also true that potty training them was a complete and utter nightmare! At the time, I was working the worst shift 4:30p-12:30am. It would take me 30 mins to get to work and 30 mins home. Due to having the dogs with me, the only place I could find to live was way in the middle of no where, crossing a toll booth both ways!!! I had to pay twice the amount of rent for the place AND pay toll everyday! By the time I would get home...at 1am, I would walk in the front door to the smell of pee and poop. Open Savannah's crate and find that she had gone all over it and laid in it. Now I had to get all of them outside, come back in give her a bath, put her bedding in the washer and clean the crate. This happened EVERY night. She refused to be penned up all night. She would whine and bark all night long. Having not gone to bed until 2:30-3am I would walk them all once more before going to bed. I'd be back up by 8am-9am and find she had used my living room once more as her potty pad. You have NO IDEA what I have had to go through. I, as I've said, trained and retrained and never had any success with her. I'm sorry if everyone thinks that one night of utter FRUSTRATION constitutes me as some ogre that hates her animals. I've proven that I didn't and don't by the anguish that I've been enduring over separating from her. Did I have her put to sleep or is she in a happy home??????????????? Wow! I'm amazed that you even threw that in my face! After that post and right after that post, I ended up taking her with me to allow her to use my new home as her potty pad and she lived here happily for yet another 5 months! Once my job ended in August I was able to spend more time with her and got her where she needed to be on that. My giving her up had not ONE thing to do with my frustration that night. Does anyone else want to pass judgement now? No one on this forum has EVER been frustrated??

It sounds to me like your financial is still not good. But you said the two you have left also have health issues that you cannot afford. Have you taken either of those two in to the vet yet?

You did what WAS and still IS best for her.

If I were the one that took her in, I would not give her back to you either.

I have compassion for your situation, but for you to hassle this woman about getting her back, that is where I draw the line with my compassion.

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

Lori, I am so confused now about your reasons for giving Savannah up after reading your post from July:

Ok well, for all of you that are shaming the woman that started this post with the 'have patience' comments. I have 2 yorkies. My oldest is 14, going on 15 and the youngest is 12. It took me every bit of 2 yrs to house break both of them!!! Even tho they are house-broken, they will still pee and poop in the house if they need to. BOTH have regressed to being unbroken..as tho they aren't trained at all. This is mainly due to the youngest potty habits. I don't want ANYONE to bash me and tell me that it's something that I'M doing wrong because they WERE broken!!! This breed is by far the most stubborn when it comes to housebreaking of any breed I have ever owned. The youngest of the 2 is a complete and utter tyrant that has destroyed every place I have ever lived with her nastiness. I am getting ready to have to move yet again only this time it will be without her. I have come to the conclusion that I will never have anything or be able to live a 'normal' life as long as she is sharing my dwelling. I have had all the patience anyone could possibly have while going thru this. I have trained, re-trained, and re-trained in every method ever written and some I concocted on my own. She WILLLLL lay in it, sleep in it, heck, she even eats her own poop as well as the other dogs poop! It's absolutely the grossest dog I have ever owned. I have put up with this for, as I've said, 12 years for the sake of her. She's at an age where no one will or would take her now. The no kill shelter here wont take her. So I have 1 alternative and that is to have her put to sleep. I am beyond disgusted with being forced to do such a thing when I have fought long and hard to keep her. 12 years!!!!???????? It comes a time when a person has to look at how they have to live for the sake of an animal. One such as what I have. Believe me, I love her as much as I hate her sometimes and I am not the kind of person to do what I have to do. I've cried my eyes out at the thought of this but I really have no choice left. I cannot live this way anymore. My home reeks of urine and it's just not fair! So, to the woman that is having the difficult time.....you have a long road ahead of you and chances are pretty great that potty training will never completely be done! Everyone I know with yorkies complain that they are the HARDEST to break and are rarely fully broken. They're just sneaky enough to hide the evidence well. They are beautiful, sweet companions but the down-sides to them out-weigh the good!

It's Christmas day....alone and up early and just read this whole thread. First - I want to commend Ging444 for her generous offer. That was so so sweet ....

2nd - As bad as I was feeling for you - I have to say the post above seems to explain more than this thread. I'm sorry you had such a bad time with your yorkies but - it now seems you did make the right decision. I know you feel bad but I also feel your frustration may have played a role in the behaviour plus the fact that many older dogs DO have potty issues. IT could have been illness or stress they were feeling your frustration. If I were you - I think I'd wish all the best for her and hopefully she has a few more years of love in her life. I don;t think the downsides of having a pet outweighs the good. If you felt that way then ....she really is in a better place....

All the best to you - Merry Christmas

[megooego]

This is what I don't understand. So many people come on YT wanting advice, but when they get it they lash out on the other people for being "rude". These YT members are giving you their honest, truthful opinion. If you wanted a sugar coated answer then I'm sorry to say, but you are posting on the wrong website.

And how you believe that someone with a love with animals is not a REAL person? ..this makes no sense.

[red98vett]

I didnt mean it that way, I told you I DO feel bad for you - I had almost posted to you that I was in your same position after my husband died - not because my girls did anything that upset me but I worried day and night if I could provide the care and financial things they needed. It's not a good feeling I know.

I am NOT judging you - I just feel you had some underlying issues going on .... I do wish you all the best and also your pets. There was nothing mean in what I said - just an opinion and only because it did seem you had some major frustrations going on. It still doesn't change the fact that you're missing her. I can totally understand that.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Lori63

Ya know I'm tired of trying to explain ONE night of frustration to all of you do-gooders!!! Little did I know that I was trying to get advice from such perfect people. I HONESTLY don't care what you want to read into any of my posts and I'm really sick of sitting here trying my best to get everyone to understand how things were for me at that point of time. Yeah, it turns out she had a UTI. She went to the vet twice for treatment. I also took her again on Oct 29 over a bladder infection. I realized she was sick and I took care of it. So put my posts out there, highlight what I've said in any color you want. You're not upsetting me. It just shows YOU as being a VERY STUPID person for not taking the same amount of time to READ IT ALL before spouting off! To put all of this to rest. I'll do as I choose with the animal I raised. If I decide I need to go get her then I will do just that. I'm no longer looking for anyones approval on here, nor will I read or respond to anymore posts on this thread. Because really, it's only obvious from the recent posts I'm getting, you all aren't normal people never having felt any other emotion than the true unbridled love of your animals. I need advice from REAL PEOPLE!!!! People that can feel many emotions, down to and including FRUSTRATION!!!!! God forbid one night of upset that my yorkie may or may not have felt from me caused it to act out! I would guess you're also the mother that has never been upset around your children either???? Never had to correct one either. You are soooo full of it!!!! Whatever!

My guess is, the woman you gave her to is not going to let you just waltz in and take her back.

When one loves their animal, they do what is best for the animal. Giving her to someone who colud afford to take care of her was good, wanting to take her back, not so good.

Remember she is still going to have the same issues when you get her back, the same reasons that you gave her away. your financial situation has not changed. You still hve two other dogs that need to see the vet.

Why not focus on doing what is best for them. And be greatful to this other person for giving your girl a nice home