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11-13-2009, 01:49 PM | #1 |
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| Why are mixed rescue dogs MORE EXPENSIVE than pure bred from a breeder dogs? I do not understand why rescue dogs cost 200-400 for a mixed up breed of dog from a BYB or puppy mill when the BYB and puppy mills themselves charge a lot less. I mean i know it's because of all the shots, spay/neuter and better quaility vet care and the living and care taking expenses that go into each rescue dog that wasn't probably given by the BYB or puppy mill, but do rescue groups expect people to be able to pay those prices? I mean what happened to FREE puppies to a good home when there was a mixed breed litter born? I'm not trying to start a fight, i guess i just don't get it. i want to get a rescue dog very much, but I can't afford another 300 dog and sometimes the rescue dogs have worse health problems than the ones you get from a BYB. and the BYB is cheaper. so what's with this and how do they honestly expect to get these precious babies to a good home when asking such expensive "donations" to take one home. Help me understand this better. i mean i guess i get it because of vet care and i do realize just how much vet care costs, but i thought that's why rescue groups are always doing fundraisers, so that they can vet a dog and then practically give it away to a good home not SELL it for quite a bit of money. anyways i'm probably just misinformed or not quite understanding so feel free to chime in if you are a rescuer or foster and can help me to understand it better. Thanks, Last edited by RachelandSadie; 11-13-2009 at 01:52 PM. |
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11-13-2009, 01:56 PM | #2 |
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| I think $300 is the highest a rescue should go, but I think that's VERY reasonable. The adoption fees are not just going into the dog you're adopting, but helping all the others. Rescues take in loads of dogs and often times spend into the $1000's when it comes to vet care. So the adoption fee just helps to cover a little bit of that. Shelter space also cost money... to have a building full of animals, you're gonna pay a monthly rent just like any other business. They have to cover things somehow. My complaint with rescues does not go the costs but more so how over 75% of the rescues I contacted never even bothered to e-mail or call me back, some require fences (which I think should not be a requirement if you're willing to give your dog lots of exercise), some require you to be 25+, etc. I understand they must be strict but at the same time, there is sooo many dogs without homes, I think they do need to lay off on the rules sometimes. But I don't want this to be a rescue bashing thread because I 100% am behind what they do and what they stand for. Oh, and they're definitely not more than purebred dogs. At least nicely well bred purebred dogs. Most Yorkies are $800 and above as well as any other good breeder of any other breed. Besides that, shelters are also filled with purebred dogs and they have rescues dedicated simply to one breed so you can find purebred dogs at shelters, not just mixes.
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11-13-2009, 02:02 PM | #3 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member | Part of the charge for adopting a rescue dog is as you mentioned, the vetting. But many of the dogs a rescue takes in, have serious, expensive to treat, health problems. The fees charged for an otherwise healthy dog do help to cover the vet charges for the unhealthier dogs. To me, the idea of adopting a rescue dog is a matter of the heart and not your wallet. When adopting a rescue, it shouldn't be about getting a "cheap" dog, but about opening your heart (and wallet) to help a neglected, abandoned or unwanted pet. If the fees for rescue adoption pets are too high for you, then consider your local animal shelter. Their fees are usually much less than a rescue organization.
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11-13-2009, 02:10 PM | #4 |
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| Yeah, they aren't all $300. We just paid $300 for our rescue but then again, it was from a yorkie rescue. We've adopted from our local shelter and it was $85 but the animals were sick and had worms. We ended up paying MORE at the vet getting them better. |
11-13-2009, 02:12 PM | #5 | |
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and Brister... i fell in love with a pug/pekinese mix and because i couldn't take BOTH him and his brother i think they wouldn't even consider me and are having someone in Michigan take them both. that's great that they are both adopted and together, but Michigan has their own pets to adopt why are the rescues in MO going there. | |
11-13-2009, 02:22 PM | #6 |
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| Rachel, please read this great explanation of adoption fees on the YHR website. Then look through some of the available pups and see the number of them that have needed a lot of expensive medical care. Yorkie Haven Rescue Adoption Fees Have you looked at www.okyorkierescue.org for one that might interest you? You might be close enough to get one from them (I'm not sure if they adopt out of state or not).
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11-13-2009, 02:28 PM | #7 |
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| Rescues spend thousands of dollars on treatments, surgeries and vet care that people who give away puppies do not have to spend. How are the rescues supposed to keep rescuing more dogs if they do not charge something for the dogs that they are spending thousands on?
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11-13-2009, 03:09 PM | #8 | |
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I adopted Lady when her previous owner tied her to a tree and moved away. Thank heavens my neighbor found her. In the first six weeks I spent about $600 in vet bills and bare in mind this was ten years ago. It would probably be twice that now. She was already spayed, but needed a dental, had to have cherry eye surgery, needed all her vaccinations updated and complete bloodwork. She was basically a healthy dog when I adopted her. I know people who have spent thousands in vet bills on adult dogs they did not adopt through a rescue. The small adoption fee a rescue requires is minimal compared to what it can cost if you adopt an adult directly from Craigslist, a newspaper ad, etc. To be perfectly honest, another reason rescues have adoption fees is to weed out people who really can't afford a dog. If someone can't afford an adoption fee of a few hundred dollars, they really cannot afford to properly care for a dog. Health problems and emergencies are part of dog ownership.For example, an innocent piece of ham can cause many Yorkies to get pancreatitis which can be thousands of dollars to treat. Eyes get scratched and can ulcerate, toy breeds jump off the furniture and injure their knees, the list goes on. Emergency vets require payment upfront. If you can't pay, they will turn you away. The initial cost of a puppy, whether it is from a show breeder or rescue group, is a very small part of what you will spend on a dog over it's lifetime. | |
11-13-2009, 04:07 PM | #9 | |
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But a lot of rescues get their pups from animal shelters (after they have been treated by the shelter vet) and then turn around and place a high adoption fee. Also a lot of them also use vets from the Humane Society, Animal Trustees or other orgs., so they get vet work done for cheap. I have come to believe that some of them even know each other and have formed cliques. I think rescuing is very noble but I also have met some rescuers that have hoarding problems by keeping most of the animals they get...seriously I have. I'm not saying this for ALL RESCUERS so don't get offended if you don't have these habits. I am talking about here in the Lone Star State which has some darn good rescue orgs, but and some questionable ones too. Last edited by Cerise; 11-13-2009 at 04:10 PM. | |
11-13-2009, 04:33 PM | #10 |
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| Am I the only one that thinks bybs and mills charge MORE than rescues? At least that's how it is in CA. They easily sell at petshops for over $2000. My foster boy from last year was $2500 from a shop in Santa Monica. I was shocked and appalled when I'd seen his papers/receipt. Quite frankly, for a dog, a living creature that you must take care of for the rest of its life, $200-400 is nothing, a drop in the bucket. What about all future expenses for the remainder of its life? For example, LP surgery is $1200 at least, probably more like $2500 around my area. If you can't afford the adoption fees, how do you think you can afford the dog?
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11-13-2009, 05:08 PM | #11 |
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| Since I have been reading the posts at YorkieTalk, I have come to realize that I bought both of my babies from a broker...for a lot of money! Not to mention the money I have spent on vet bills and the upcoming vet bills since they both have LP. But that's ok with me as I could not buy all the joy they have brought to me. One of co-works fosters Yorkies. One of the Yorkies she fostered was taught by his former female owner to bite the woman's husband! That dog had serious issues. It takes a lot of time and money to get those dogs ready for a forever home. I take her kibble that my dogs won't eat and I know she would take donations for the vet bills. The vet bills are very high and the vets never know if or when they will be paid. If all they want is $300 for a rescue dog, especially a Yorkie, that sounds like a bargain to me. I don't know what they sell for in my area. Since I have two already, I haven't been real interested in taking on a third one....yet!
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11-13-2009, 05:23 PM | #12 | |
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11-13-2009, 06:20 PM | #13 | |
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You're right about some of the rescues knowing and working with each other. Associating/networking with other rescues has many benefits. I've transported dogs for cavalier rescue, cairn terrier rescue, an all breed rescue and other rescues have transported for yorkie rescue. I know one Pom rescue person that anytime she comes across a breeder surrender yorkie will call me. I can't agree with you more the Lone Star State has some of the very best rescues, very hardworking, dedicated people!
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11-13-2009, 07:25 PM | #15 | |
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Most rescues groups don't have enough foster homes for all the dogs needing homes so they don't pull a dog that is in a safe no kill shelter. They only pull dogs and cats in a high risk situation. As others have pointed out, most rescues lose money. Trust me, they are not in cahoots with local vets to pull pets from shelters to make money. | |
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