How Come No One Told Me?

[rebeccag]

Originally Posted by Yorkie118

It seems like I have come to wrong place for help. I joined this site because I thought it was for people who were nice and loved their dogs and wanted to help each other out. For some reason my thread was taken the wrong way. And now everyone is having a field day throwing darts at me. I think that this is so unfear. I love my dogs. ALL of my dogs. If I don't want help I would have never posted my thread. I HAVE read books. I HAVE done research on the web. I HAVE spoke to a trainer. I have done everything that I have told and it hasn't worked. That's why I came here. I see that it was not a smart idea. You guys are a bunch of mean people taking shots at someone who is trying. All of my dogs are heathly. NEVER been mistreated. Yes he has be caged. For Potty training and safe keeping. I am in no way trying to harm or hurt him in any way. I would not have gotten him to mistreat him. I would not have spoke to so many people it I didn't care. Instead of putting me down you all should have tried to help. I am so hurt about all of your negative remarks it makes me want to cry. I hope you all feel really good about yourselfs. You have someone trying, asking for help and instead you do everything you can to try and make me feel like I am doing everything wrong. SHAME ON YOU ALL.

I'm really sorry you feel this way and I do hope you stay! There is a lot of knowledgeable people on YT that are willing to help. I did get the impression you were seaking out help and you should be able to do that without feeling like you're being judged and for that I feel bad. My pastor always said people come to church and they try to hide what they do wrong, when it should be just the opposite! You should come to church and be able to say where you go wrong so people will know how to pray for you!!! It should be a safe place. I think it should be that way here as well. In a perfect world it would be that way everywhere I guess.

If it makes you feel better, I called my trainer the other day because Jonah (my male) seemed to regress and I was ready to rip my hair out!!!!!!!!!! She suggested, to start the training all over again from square one, IN THE CRATE! She couldn't believe my pups were still occasionally having accidents!! I thought it was normal with Yorkies...she was like, huh???? Ah, NO! Having said that, I give my animals a ton of attention because I love them all...just like my kids but I too needed help! I'm glad I could call my trainer for help and not be judged while getting some great tips!!!

Well, got to go walk the pups in the small area I choice for them to eliminate. They haven't had an accident since I spoke to the trainer and because my schedule is back to normal now that I've finished covering vacations at work. They've been back in the crate when my eyes aren't on them because that's how you crate train them and I have to completely train them now because the older they get the harder it is, per the trainer. They were pretty much completely trained then boom it was back to potty training 101. Good news, I know how to train them so I'm taking control of the situation!

Please keep me updated and if I can help I'd be delighted to!!!

Best of luck to you!

[Sweet Apple]

I think you've taken this thread for a looooooooooog ride....Have you accomplished your mission? Has it been good for you? What's next? Aw'com, give us a hint

[mickeysmum]

I've had Yorkies for a good part of my life...I've also had a miniature schnauzer and a poodle. Right now, our little Mickey is a puppy, only 5 mos. old. One misconception I think a lot of people have is the amount of exercise time these little ones need (even compared to my poodle and schnauzer). Mickey goes on at least two 40 min. walks/ day. He has tons and tons of energy that needs to come out. He loves playing with other dogs along the way. When we are home, he also needs a lot of exercise playing in the house. Fortunately, I have two children, ages 6 and 9, who LOVE to play with him. He chases balls, loves to be chased, and spends a lot of time carrying around his toys... He also has many different chew toys--bully sticks and other toys meant for chewing. I've noticed that Mickey can get a little aggressive or has more trouble separating when he hasn't gotten the physical exercise and attention he needs.

I understand crating him when you're worried about his safety, but I agree with other posters who suggest blocking off part of the house so that he has some room to play. A few times I've been worried about him in the kitchen when I'm cooking, so I simply gate off that area--and he continues to play in the living room. This might work for you. Also, I try to give Mickey attention when I'm doing things--he sits on my lap when I'm on the computer...and when I'm doing work at my desk. We really only crate him at night...and put him in his play pen when we are gone for the day or need to put him somewhere while we're home.

I'm sorry you are going through all of this with your puppy. I absolutely adore the breed, but agree that Yorkies have different personalities. It sounds to me that yours just needs a little more attention, toys, and exercise. I hope you find a solution soon. Good luck.

[sashajade]

i havent been on this site for a while but i popped on today and just had to reply to this.
ive had yorkies for over 25 years so i know the breed well.
ive not read all the comments on here but a few stood out to me.
people saying that maybe you should of got a different breed as a yorkie is like a baby and needs a lot of attention is just not true, EVERY breed of dog when they are a puppy needs just as much attention, a yorkie or any other small breed does not need anymore attention than any other breed.
a puppy needs love, attention, care, feeding, training,socializing, and playing with to name just a few.
yorkies were first bred to catch and kill rats, they are TERRIERS and had a job which they were very good at, they were not bred to be just lap dogs so a lot of them will still have the terrier part in them and i expect your pup is bored.
ANY breed of pup you will need to spend a lot of time with and train, one good thing about the yorkie is they learn very quickly.
could i please ask a few things?
you say you have 2 other dogs?
if so why are they not with your yorkie?
if your yorkie had company i bet you wouldnt have so many problems.
can i ask why do you put the yorkie in a crate when you are not in the room and watching it?
if i remember your yorkie is 7 months old now?
at 7 months old i cant see any reason why the yorkie cant wander about your house, why do you feel like you have to protect it? from what?
just wanted to add im not having a go at you

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

Sometimes when we ask for help, we have a predesigned response in mind -- that is not always going to be what we get. Most reading your initial post got the same impression. So, maybe you worded the post in a way we got the impression you were crating too long, not giving enough attention, and maybe not really "liking" your pup. You have since posted that maybe that is not the case.

I do think you are looking to others to solve your problem. We can only give suggestions. The books and research you have done should have given you ample methods to try. So what is missing? I know you won't want to hear this but I think it is "attitude." The attitude you have shown to people who have given honest opinions may be seeping into the way you treat your puppy. No method will work on a puppy if you are giving off negative feelings. The puppy wants to be loved. He will be anxious if he does not get the feeling he is not only safe but also truly cared about. Just as a child may act out if there are emotional problems, a puppy will as well. Just try not to always blame others for the results you are getting.

Yorkies are not inanimate accessories that you can always set aside when inconvenient to you. They are very demanding and need constant reassurance that you love them as much as they love you. They are very different from some of the other breeds that can be more independent. They crave constant attention and interaction. I did not crate train any of mine. But I feel, once they are housetrained, they should not be made to go in their crate when you are home.

At this age, I would think your puppy should be more than old enough to be out and about in the house with you during the day. If you iron, why could the dog not be out? If he does try messing with the cords, teach him not to. Most of your home should be child-proof/puppy-proof anyway. So, give him some leeway to explore and really be a family member and not a stage prop you bring out when you think it is right for the scene you want to set. Instead of banning him to a crate while you eat, why not just train him not to beg at the table?

Advice does not always come sugarcoated. That does not mean it is not heart-felt. I sincerely hope you bond with your puppy, truly start liking him and enjoy his presence as part of the family. But if we all say you are doing everything right -- how is that helping? Obviously what you are doing is not working, so it is time to try something different. I had to change paths many times with mine. Each was different but all required a LOT of loving interaction.

How about getting the x-pen for when you have to be gone. How about giving your pup a few rooms that he can freely roam when you are home? When he chews something up (which he probably will) tell him "no" firmly, and redirect him to something appropriate to chew on. Be careful using books or advice as an absolute solution for every dog. I am sure you read some child-rearing books too. Did all of those fit each of your human kids? I know they did not for me. I had 3 boys and every one was unique as can be. A cookie-cutter approach just does not work for any with a personality of their own. Try not to demand so much of your pup or those posting to you. It is not the responsibility of others to come up with the perfect solution, just suggestions if they desire to reply. When you ask a question, be ready for some to say what you are doing is wrong. Be open to the idea that at least a big part of the problem may be yours. Then when you change how you feel about the puppy, how you change your approach to him and the way you treat him, be prepared for some fantastic love in return!

Unconditional love is a wonderful thing to know! Sometimes my Yorkies are a lot more like people than dogs -- that is one of the many things I love about them! Sometimes I act more like a dog than a person and they seem to love that about me too. So don't be afraid to get down on the floor and really PLAY with him. Wear him out with fetch and play that gets him excited and really having FUN! Buy him more toys. By 7 months he really should have more than one monkey, a blanket and a broken alarm clock. Choose interactive toys that either will engage him (like the Hide-A-Squirrel) or that require interaction with you, like a ball to throw. Then buy some that will just be comforting and reassuring like the plush animals. If your children are old enough, show them how to safely play with the puppy and make sure each of them spends a little time one-on-one with him each day too. A puppy that is getting plenty of attention, stimulation, and love will usually be easier to train and have less anxiety. Right now I get the feeling he is not getting enough of you all and the idea of losing what little he has is overwhelming to him; hence the separation anxiety.

I may have not hit on anything you can use, but hopefully you will know that it is offered with good intentions. I think since you have done so much research, have so much input, the real solution will come from within. It will be more a question of how you do the things you do, than what you do. I do think if you treat your puppy differently you will get different results. I once read that craziness is expecting different results while doing the same thing over and over. (This made a point with me!) So, why not try something new today! Good luck!

I totally agree with that post. I was not tryin to be rude at all. Reading your post it says that you put him in a crate each time YOU can't have your eyes on him, yes that is very good for safety reasons but is this what you do with your other dog as well? I don't agree with caging animals all day and I don't agree with having them and leaving them home alone all day either but different things work for different people. Its great that your home all day, so that should give you the more reason to NOT lock him up so often. Have a little faith in your dog and he will give a little back. Maybe its not as bad as we all "think" it is but when you come on so frustrated talking about getting rid of him because of your husband and this and that, your other thread was a week after you got him and you wanted to get rid of him or were thinking about it. Your on the defense now and I don't know why, we're tryin to understand your situation. Someone is home all day with my dogs too and they are hardly in the cage, I have a larger dog so she goes in the crate more often then my smaller one for safety reasons. I have baby gates up in the kitchen/living area to keep the dogs seperate. I iron all the time and have my dog out, I also havea child that is out when I do those things too, whats wrong with me? You seem overwhelmed and if you cant do day to day activies with your dogs/kids out perhaps dog owning is not for you.

[jessren05]

My Lola is rarely ever in a cage. Why get a dog if thats the only place you're going to let them be? Lola runs around the house, does whatever she wants within reason, lets me know when she needs out and since day one the only time we've put her in a cage is if we leave the house to go somewhere. We got her a new cage, kind of a pet carrier, and she does sooo much better in that than she ever did in a wire crate.

[MJJ56]

Originally Posted by shamrocks

This is a wonderful forum but to be completely honest I am a little afraid to ask for advice in fear that I might be judged harshly.

I with you on that post!

[rebeccag]

Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22

I totally agree with that post. I was not tryin to be rude at all. Reading your post it says that you put him in a crate each time YOU can't have your eyes on him, yes that is very good for safety reasons but is this what you do with your other dog as well? I don't agree with caging animals all day and I don't agree with having them and leaving them home alone all day either but different things work for different people. Its great that your home all day, so that should give you the more reason to NOT lock him up so often. Have a little faith in your dog and he will give a little back. Maybe its not as bad as we all "think" it is but when you come on so frustrated talking about getting rid of him because of your husband and this and that, your other thread was a week after you got him and you wanted to get rid of him or were thinking about it. Your on the defense now and I don't know why, we're tryin to understand your situation. Someone is home all day with my dogs too and they are hardly in the cage, I have a larger dog so she goes in the crate more often then my smaller one for safety reasons. I have baby gates up in the kitchen/living area to keep the dogs seperate. I iron all the time and have my dog out, I also havea child that is out when I do those things too, whats wrong with me? You seem overwhelmed and if you cant do day to day activies with your dogs/kids out perhaps dog owning is not for you.

I think her Yorkie is the one with the potty issue which is why she crates him. When crate training, they need to be in the crate unless eyes are on them. If you can't catch them in the act when they're doing something wrong so that you can correct them then training is harder. Some animals are harder to train than others...My rabbit was easier to litter train than my two Yorkies...LOL!

[Sbyork]

I hope this person will read my post. 1st how old was he when you got him? How was he raised did you see the house the other dogs and the way he was raised? Did you get him from a reputable breeder?
Yorkies should never leave their house for a new home untill at LEAST 12 weeks, the breeder should take the time to train him to be independent from the others.
My puppies NEVER leave before the age of 12 weeks and having been taught to be alone as well as with the group. They are ALL raised in my home,
I agree that training will help and you need to be persistant with the proper training. It will happen. Yorkies are VERY smart and will take over if you are not the one in charge.
Good Luck and be paitent!
Nancy

[Wend]

Originally Posted by Yorkie118

He has gotten better since I brought him the wire cage. He does have a monkey, a blanket, and he had an alam clock but it broke. He is in his cage for a little while at a time. When we are eating because I don't like for the dogs to be in the kitchen. When we take our naps because I don't feel comforable about him roaming the house alone. He is 7 months old. He was 12 weeks old when I got him. I feed him Eukanuba puppy small bites. He has learned to sit, down, and back.I have talked with the trainer at my local Petco serveral times. Thanks!

Victoria Stillwell has some great methods for keeping dogs out of kitchens. She has a book and a TV show that is on Saturday nights. Have you tried a Kong with frozen peanut butter in it? My dogs don't like Kongs, but many do and it can keep them busy for a long time. I also would suggest you take him to classes, this will socialize him, stimulate him, help him gain confidence, and tire him out so he is more content.
Gates and XPens are great alternatives (or in addition to) crates. I use all three! Walks are another great way to stimulate the dog and tire them out.
If he does have separation anxiety, then the issue is not the crate, it is being away from you. You should get a professional trainer to visit your house and see his reactions. It certainly can be treated, but you really need a good trainer to see exactly what is going on. Talking to them without letting them see the dog in action is not the best option.

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by rebeccag

I think her Yorkie is the one with the potty issue which is why she crates him. When crate training, they need to be in the crate unless eyes are on them. If you can't catch them in the act when they're doing something wrong so that you can correct them then training is harder. Some animals are harder to train than others...My rabbit was easier to litter train than my two Yorkies...LOL!

I get that but her main issues she was asking for advice was to get him to stop crying in the crate!

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[rebeccag]

Originally Posted by Yorkie118

What is that suppose to mean? Do YOU have any advise?

Yes, I did give you some. I wrote that maybe you were just reading the responses and not responding because someone asked why you didn't come back . Good example of how words without really knowing a person and their good intent can be taken wrong. I'm okay with it

[rebeccag]

Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22

I get that but her main issues she was asking for advice was to get him to stop crying in the crate!

Yes, I know. That's why I suggested music and treats or toys in the crate until they get used to and enjoy being in there.

[cthalhofer]

I think you should consider all posts with an open mind take in the good and forget about the negative unless you have a reason to feel bad then just let each have there own opinion. Take all the good and start over with him maybe the stress of thinking it will never get better is somehow afecting your boy try and stay positive as you must be used to being a mom and just keep loving him he will come around also be wary of pet store trainers as I have run into issues where they talk a great talk but really have no training also I would like to say please don't rush away from yorkie talk as it can be very informative