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Old 08-22-2009, 07:53 PM   #61
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That done it I just re-read both post missed up on few words...I am going to bed if I can not spell right and can not check my spelling to after I push post...that does it sorry about that! It's almost midnight here and I am going to hang up in a few...good night everyone! I hope things get better with you and your yorkie soon! God Bless!
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Thanks for your reply. I DID do my research on the breed. FYI I researched for over two years. I have purchased both books and magazines about yorkies. I also spoke with the breeder back and forth through emails and phone calls for a month before buying my puppy. I asked over a millions questions. The reason why I put him in the cage while I am cooking is because for m own personal reasons I don't want him in the kitchen. I don't keep him caged 24 7, but I also can't just sit and hold him 24 7 either. Thanks again for your reply.
I haven't read every single post, so please excuse me if I repeat something. I just wonder if you researched yorkies for 2 years reading books and magazines, how is it you only read the ones that "only stated the good stuff" in your words. I have never seen a book or magazine like that, unless of course you only wanted to read the good parts.

Yorkies are high maintenance dogs, and that's not even talking about their hair, it's their personalities as a whole. They want to interact with you all the time. They want to hang out with their owner. That's why some people are just not cut out to be yorkie owners.

Like I've said before, if you claim your dog is untrainable, YOU AREN'T TRYING HARD ENOUGH. No dog is untrainable. You have to keep at it, and everyone in the household must do the same.

You don't need to have your dog in a crate everytime you need to do something that isn't dog related. Teach your dog a wait command. I tell mine to lay down on her bench, and wait till I'm done doing whatever I am doing. She listens b/c she trusts me. It seems like there is absolutely no bond or trust between you and your dog.

So you have a decision to make. Either try harder at training your dog, or find a good home for him. If you want to keep him, you really need to try, instead of just asking for advice (and you have gotten some great advice already) and just say "thanks for your reply". If you decide to rehome him, actually look for a good home for him, don't just dump him somewhere, he deserves better than that. Either decision is not going to be easy.
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I don't agree that all of the crate training techniques say to crate them most of the time. What they say is to crate them when you cannot give them attention. That being said, if they are crated all the time because you cannot give them attention, then they need to be placed with someone who can give them attention. It is so unfair to keep them crated all the time.
Thanks for your reply. I can pay attention to him. I am a stay at home mom. All I have is time. Time is not an issues.
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If you are crate training for potty reasons, then yes, they spend a lot of time in there, but that is usually just for a few weeks.

If it is true separation anxiety, then that does take a lot of work to fix. You can look at the training section to see what other people do in those cases, there are some standard techniques. FYI, separation happens in all dogs, but it is true what people are saying yorkies want to be with you all the time.

The big thing I got out of your post is that you may not have prepared him to be crated. The crate should be a good place for him, his refuge away from the world. I agree with another poster who said to buy nice bedding, toys, etc. Try leaving the crate door open for a while, or when you put him in, give him a great treat / toy that he only gets in his crate. You will want to rebuild his attitude towards being inside it.

Also, have you considered adding a crate to your bedroom so he can be with you while you sleep? It's best if you position it so he can see you and take comfort from your presence.
Thanks for your reply. Now that he has a wire cage he like that better. He was sleeping in my room next to the but the Petco trainer told me to remove him from the room and put him in another room to sleep.
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Like Ceasar says :I rehabilitate the dogs, and I train people. Your not the pack leader. I have 7 yorkies and now of them have these problems. Sorry to hear about all this. Your yorkie is controling you, take charge and do something.
Thanks so much for your reply. It seems like you are the only ones who realizes that the human is the pack leader and not the dog. Any tips on how to do?
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Thanks so much for your reply. It seems like you are the only ones who realizes that the human is the pack leader and not the dog. Any tips on how to do?
I find this comment offensive. Seriously? You think our dogs walk us? Just because we're passionate about our yorkies and want the best for them does not mean we are incapable of training them. Sticking a dog in a cage because he is inconvenient for you to watch is shameful.

You might get sweeter responses if you watched what you said and weren't so casually insulting.
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First off, I sympathize with your situation. Second, you have come to the right forum for information. Third, I'll put my 2 cents in regarding your problem (even though I'm a relative newcomer to this forum).

I'm presuming you got your Yorkie as a puppy ? That would probably make him 6-7 months old ?

From everything I've read, the cage/crate is supposed to be a place where your dog FEELS SAFE, and GOES IN WILLINGLY. Of course, this requires time, patience and training to achieve (much like everything else involving a Yorkie). Otherwise, he's gonna cry, whine, chew, etc. because he wants to get out to be with you, where you are !!! These dogs are terriers, which means they can be feisty, independent, willful, and yes, stubborn, but once they are trained, they are a joy, very affectionate and loyal; they will bond to you very strongly once they trust you. The downside is that it does take more time and patience than a lot of other breeds. Potty training can also be notoriously difficult.

One of my neighbors had bought a Yorkie puppy, and while she and her family loved the dog, quickly she became "overwhelmed" by him, as a matter of fact, it sounds as though you and she had many of the same (and I would guess common) problems. My neighbor has two small children under five, both she and her husband work, etc. Finally, she gave her dog to her sister, and everyone has been happy since (my neighbor still has her cat).

I'm not here to judge, but perhaps the Yorkie is just not the dog for you. In my opinion, unless you have the time and patience to devote to them, it is unfair to both you and the pet to continue in a situation where obviously neither of you is happy.

I must disagree with you regarding a blanket "breeders destroying the breed" statement, otherwise, why would there be so many happy Yorkie owners ?

Every dog has a different personality, but I think most of the time, problems stem from inadequate training.

Please understand that I wish you the best of luck. If you want to keep your Yorkie, get a good, Yorkie-specific training book, and follow through with a training program. If not, please find a good home for him with someone who does have the time to devote to him.

It is not the terrier breed that I don't understand. I have a 4 year old Miniature Schnauzer that I have had since she was 6 months old and I haven't had any problems out of her. I have brought several books, spoke with several other owner, (some of which are having the same problems that I am having years later) and I have also spoke with the Petco trainer. I spoke to a lady that had had her yprkie for 4 years and still has really bad separation anxiety. It is so bad they almost got kicked out of a hotel during Hurriane Ike. Ans that after 4 years, which made me think that it was a problem with the breed. Maybe they just suffer from separation anxiety.
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How come YOU post "three seperate threads" basically about the same subject...how you researched, bought your puppy & now can't figure out why he doesn't like to be caged...without ever replying to ANY of the threads...is my first question to you?
What was your question again. Yes I have researched and talked to trainers. Do you have any advise?
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Hello everyone. It's me again, with more issues. I've had my yorkie for about 4 or 5 months now. And I would love to say that these have been some of the best months for me, but sadly I can't say that at all. I have had so many issues I'm starting to think that I made a mistake in buying him. I've loved the breed for about two years. I would beg my husband all the time about getting one. Finally he gave in and I went on the search. I found one.... bought him....and the story begins. I thought I did my research. I thought I asked all the right questions. Somewhere something went wrong...really wrong. My first problem was him crying everytime he was alone, trying to eat his way out of his cage. Okay I understand that he has to get used to his new home. I get that. But this wasn't normal. It wasn't getting any better. Nothing I tried worked. I contacted the breeder and she said that he had NEVER been caged. GREAT. I wish I had known that before. It's just not possible for me NOT to put him in a cage. For his own safety. He is in the cage when ever I couldn't keep a constant eye on him. Like when I am cooking, going to check the mail, things like that. He is so little I am trying to keep him safe. He would work himself up so bad when we would leave the house he would lose all of his energy. That hasn't gotten better all these months later. I told the vet and the breeder that I thought he suffered with serious separation anxiety. They both said "Oh just give him time, he needs to get used to your routine". How much time does he need. I went to Petco and got him a new cage, a wire one thinking that maybe he wouldn't feel so closed in. Before I brought that he started using the bathroom in the cage. All the time. I was having to bathe hime a couple of times a day, everyday. Even though I was taking him out all the time. When I got the new cage he went from using the restroom in the cage to drinking his pee. There goes the second problem. I sectioned off the cage thinking that would help. It didn't. It got worst. Somehow he got past that. It told almost 2 months. Now he still cries like crazy when we leave him and he has started to show some signs of aggression. When I am ironing I put him in the cage so he doesn't get caught in the cord or anything. When we look at him he starts growling at us or barking. As soon as we come home we can hear him before we get in the house. And he's not even in the front of the house, he's all the way in the back in my room. If I leave and my husband is home he calls me telling me to hurry home because he is going crazy. (Both my husband and the dog!) He has said that if it doesn't hurry up and get better I have to get rid of him. What am I suppose to do. We can't take him with us everywhere. We can't even take him out of town with us. No one will let him into a hotel. So we have been trapped at home this summer. Not able to go anywhere. All the books I read about yorkies before I brought him only stated the good stuff. No one told me that this dog was going to take over my whole life. At night he sleeps in my bathroom. If I have to use the restroom at night, I can't even go in there I have to go to another bathroom on the other side of the house, because if I wake him up he starts up. He is so stubborn. He just kind of does what he wants. I spoke to a lady who said she has had the same problems the whole time she has had her 4 year old yorkie. Other people have expressed the same things. I'm starting to think that people have destroyed the breed. We baby them so much they don't know how to be dogs. They start to develop human characteristics and they don't know how to function as pets. I love animals, but I can not have an animal control my house. I don't even let my children do that. They have rules. I think that some breeders as so in love with the money that they can make off of these dogs that they don't care about the breed or about the life that they are going to have to live once they are brought. They are not breeding for temperament. I am so lost. I don't know what to do. I have two other dogs that are perfect. But this one has me at a lost for words. It has been hard to connect with him. What do I do?
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First off, What is the reason as to why you put him in his crate EVERYTIME you can't have your eyes on him?

Second, I am not sure why you would say that "they are babied so much they don't know how to be dogs" Not sure how much "research" you did before you got him, but most yorkies require your undivided attention! You should have found that much out just by poking around on YT!

Third, Have you tried a X-pen for him? He might like that better and you can keep him in the same room with you while you cook, clean, iron!

I have six of my own and to say that it is easy would be a lie! I have no children, so they are my children! They require alot of time and attention! I own two businesses and also sponsor three racecars that take up alot of my time on the weekends in the summers. All of my yorkies are well behaved and have a schedule that I follow with them, this works great. So to say that you have one that is messing up your summer is somewhat hard to take. It takes time to train them for your lifestyle, but if your lifestyle doesn't allow you the time to be a yorkie owner, maybe you should take the advice of the other yt'rs and see if the breeder would allow you to return him.

I am sorry that you are having a time with him, but he his not very happy either!

First off I cage him when I can't keep close attention to him because I don't want him to get hurt. I don't think that there is anything wrong with that. I am thinking of his saftey. Secondly I do understand that they need a lot of attention. However do I need to spend all day giving him attention. What about people who work are they bad pet owners because they leave their dogs at home 8-12 hours a day. I am at home all day. I have plenty of time.
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In my eyes you are being too protective and in the wrong way. You don't cage a baby when you can't hold them when you are doing dishes etc...you put them in a babyseat...

get a playpen, be responsible and keep an eye on the pup when you are busy with other things. We all have lives outside of our babies and still manage to pay attention to them enough for them not to get wrapped around an iron cord? that just seems weird you would even worry about that. I don't mean to be abrupt or defensive, but you just don't seem to know how to train or handle a puppy.

Poor puppy
I don't think it's weird at all. I think it's the right way of thinking. I thought the same thing about my kids when they were babies. You mean to tell me that you would let your toddle crawl around on the floor near hanging cords? Do you think it's ok to put a baby in a play pen but it's wrong to put a dog in a cage to protect him.
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First off I cage him when I can't keep close attention to him because I don't want him to get hurt. I don't think that there is anything wrong with that. I am thinking of his saftey. Secondly I do understand that they need a lot of attention. However do I need to spend all day giving him attention. What about people who work are they bad pet owners because they leave their dogs at home 8-12 hours a day. I am at home all day. I have plenty of time.
If you are home all day then you should have a head start of the people who have to work everyday.

Training your dog should be fun, not a chore. But to me it seems that's how you are acting like. Until you change your attitude about it, it will not be fun for you, and ultimately not fun for your dog.
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oh, and I am completely offended that you are accusing some of us of ruining the breed. Look at the members here...i guarantee 85% of us baby or dogs....all that means is giving them love and attention. I feel bad for your other dogs.

People get dogs to provide them with love and care and vise versa...why would you get a dog that you just keep isolated all the time? Your other dogs probably just sit in a corner and don't interact with you at all which I can see being your definition of "perfectly behaved".

My dog is very spoiled and one of the best behaved dogs I have ever known. There is a balance between love and discipline....and discipline is NOT locking up your dog.

Go sit in a closet for a day and see if you don't pee yourself and get angry about it.
Thanks so much for being so nice. If only you showed as much compassion for humans as you do for your yorkies you would be a much nicer person. I am coming here for help not to be out down.
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this story is so sad for both of u. It sounds like either one of u is happy with the other.
You sounds like u r overwhelmed by this little thing , which is a puppy.
Potty training can be very difficult, every dog has a different personality just like a skin baby. It looks like u don't have the time to train this puppy, so do the right thing for both of u. He didn't have a choice u do, Please just find him a good home, someone that's home and can devote time and understands the breed and have time to work with him. I'm so sorry u can't handle or understand him, and he knows u r upset and this partnership will not work.
I wish u were a little closer I would have try to help u train him.
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Thanks for your reply. Time is not the problem. I have all the time in the world. Solutions are what I need. Not just a bunch of people telling me how horrible I am.
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I totally agree, if you can't give him your time, give him up to someone who can and doesn't mind it.
I don't have a problem giving him my time.
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