Help!! My parents won't allow the dog in their home!

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

how dare you two treat people the way that you do!!

I didn't even ask for that opinion on this thread, it's about my mom and dad, and then it shifted to Banfield clinic advice...

you are both so rude and hateful to attack someone on a thread that isn't even about puppy mills or anything of that matter.

hope everyone reads your comments and sees how awful you both are!

I have just been "lurking" following this thread to see if your dad had any change of heart. What the heck happened to this thread?

I am shocked by some of the responses you have received, and to see who was giving the advice. Some people need to follow their own advice.

Rachel, I hope the best for you and Sadie, and that your dad will come around once Sadie is trained. Good luck.

[manina]

Originally Posted by nneessaa

I don't know. Just because a few people have a good experience, doesn't mean there aren't many others who had a good experience. Same goes for puppy mills. Just because one person happen to have a healthy dog from a puppy mill, there are millions of others who spent thousands and thousands of dollars on their dog. Maybe you will be lucky, but that is like winning the lottery on a puppy mill dog. It just isn't going to happen.

Sorry, I'm still against the fact that you are getting your dog from a puppy mill (which is the same as a backyard breeder, and how can you say they love their dogs if they are outside in kennels and only inside during puppyhood)... and the dog has no shots and is leaving the mom at 6 weeks. The dog shouldn't have shots at 6 weeks, but still it shouldn't leave that early. You are going to "save" the puppy, but in reality you are just supporting them to breed more and more puppies because you can't pay $1000 for a well bred, high quality pup.

I pray that your dog is ok, and gets house trained easily since you are going to bring her to your parents when she is house trained. Could be a year, could be never. I pray that she doesn't come down with something that costs over $5000, even a thousand so she doesn't have to get surrendered to a rescue.

She is a young pup, will chew, pee, poo, maybe throw up and have diarrhea due to how she was raised. Bark a lot too. Socializing just with your aunts dog is NOT enough to make her friendly. Dogs need to be out and about until the first year at least to be well socialized. To me, a dog is a big deal. I did years of research. My scruffs may not have been from a good breeder and I will never know (although the owner said she searched weeks for a good breeder.. I would have searched longer myself), but I got him as a rehome at a year old and I would give up everything to make him healthy.

Oh, and about your parents. If my parents said I couldn't bring Scruffs I'd just not visit them. If they can't accept that he is part of me and my life, then I must not be very important to them. That's not the case though, and they have grown to love Scruffs. I might be crazy, but I love my dog more than anything in the world.

I don't want to post this but I can't hold out any longer. Sorry but I'm frustrated since it is pointless when people ask for advice and then ignore it.

She wasn't talking about puppy mills ! she was asking advice on her dad !
We all feel bad about what's happening with puppy mills, let get mad at the breeder and the law that will not stop them. Maybe when someone finds a puppy mill , they will report them and we need to fight to get the LAW to help us fight the mills.
Maybe we can help, and start a thread to see what we can do to help these poor dogs that came from the mill, let work together as one voice !.

I wish her the best and good health with her furbabie.
bark@ulater!
manina, miley, max

[RachelandSadie]

Thanks to those who have given advice to me that i have actually asked for!!


About the puppy mill thing in Missouri, i have found that yes this state has more than any other state, but you will be happy to know that the governement of this state is doing more to help that problem be resolved.

Why not write to your state legislators that you want this problem to stop and you want stronger and more harsh laws on breeders so this won't happen.

I have emailed my breeder several times to help him out in his process of registration and licensing in the state of MO, i have sent him an email with the Blue Ribbon Kennel Program link so that he can apply to become one of these if he'd like. This breeder as i've said over 20 times now, is NOT a puppy mill, he is not raising hundreds of dogs and selling them for ridiculous prices and then turning his back on the owners when they need help. He is an honest person, he helps the owners learn to raise their pups, and he loves and takes care of his babies just the same as any other person on here. He does this because he likes being around the puppies and he likes to see people happy. His kennels are clean and sanitary and he takes very good care of each and every mother, father, and puppy that he raises. His wife Linda also helps care for the puppies and they give them baths and trim their nails and feed them well and play play play with them everyday. A puppy miller wouldn't play with his puppies and let them chase him around the yard calling them by the names he's picked out and bringing them in the house for a bath and to cuddle with. This person could never harm a hair on a puppies head and doesn't let his puppies go until HE personally feels they are ready. He is knowledgeable and educated and though he may let puppies go earlier than most of you accept, he still looks out for what He personally feels is best for the pup.

So enough with the comments that I am getting my puppy from a puppy mill, i've had it with your rude and hateful remarks. IF you aren't here to be kind and help me to learn to care for my puppy then keep your opinions to yourselves. I don't want one more of this nonsense about puppy mills or how sick or disgusted you are.

I'm a very kindhearted, loving, sweet, and happy person, i've never in my life had so much trouble from strangers. I make friends everywhere I go and am one of the nicest people you will ever meet. I only wanted to come on here to have good advice and support and encouragement as my little one grows up with me, but instead i've found a lot more of angry, hurtful, and rude people who can't keep their nose in their own business. I know i've asked for advice about the age of bringing home a puppy before, but i'm not asking for that advice anymore...and that's all it was, was advice, i didn't need all the rudeness and disrespect with those comments.

I'm done with this conversation, if you want to help me raise her and give me knowledge please do, if you want to talk about her age or where she came from, start your own thread somewhere else, it's not welcome here anymore..


Thank you all and have a nice day!!

[LilMissy]

Originally Posted by nneessaa

I don't know. Just because a few people have a good experience, doesn't mean there aren't many others who had a good experience. Same goes for puppy mills. Just because one person happen to have a healthy dog from a puppy mill, there are millions of others who spent thousands and thousands of dollars on their dog. Maybe you will be lucky, but that is like winning the lottery on a puppy mill dog. It just isn't going to happen.

Sorry, I'm still against the fact that you are getting your dog from a puppy mill (which is the same as a backyard breeder, and how can you say they love their dogs if they are outside in kennels and only inside during puppyhood)... and the dog has no shots and is leaving the mom at 6 weeks. The dog shouldn't have shots at 6 weeks, but still it shouldn't leave that early. You are going to "save" the puppy, but in reality you are just supporting them to breed more and more puppies because you can't pay $1000 for a well bred, high quality pup.

I pray that your dog is ok, and gets house trained easily since you are going to bring her to your parents when she is house trained. Could be a year, could be never. I pray that she doesn't come down with something that costs over $5000, even a thousand so she doesn't have to get surrendered to a rescue.

She is a young pup, will chew, pee, poo, maybe throw up and have diarrhea due to how she was raised. Bark a lot too. Socializing just with your aunts dog is NOT enough to make her friendly. Dogs need to be out and about until the first year at least to be well socialized. To me, a dog is a big deal. I did years of research. My scruffs may not have been from a good breeder and I will never know (although the owner said she searched weeks for a good breeder.. I would have searched longer myself), but I got him as a rehome at a year old and I would give up everything to make him healthy.

Oh, and about your parents. If my parents said I couldn't bring Scruffs I'd just not visit them. If they can't accept that he is part of me and my life, then I must not be very important to them. That's not the case though, and they have grown to love Scruffs. I might be crazy, but I love my dog more than anything in the world.

I don't want to post this but I can't hold out any longer. Sorry but I'm frustrated since it is pointless when people ask for advice and then ignore it.

The only thing that I could add to this post is that it's probably a blessing in disguise that her parents aren't allowing the puppy to visit yet. Maybe they feel the same as some of us do. I wouldn't take my pup ANYWHERE until after her last set of vaccinations were completed.

Anyways, I'm sorry Rachel that you are getting upset over some of the responses that you are getting, but you are the one asking the questions and this is the internet. You are bound to get all kinds of advice and opinions.

[RachelandSadie]

is there a reason you cannot talk to me directly about your feelings and that you have to use she and her parents in your comment?

i have asked nicely for no negative comments, please abide by this!

[LilMissy]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

is there a reason you cannot talk to me directly about your feelings and that you have to use she and her parents in your comment?

i have asked nicely for no negative comments, please abide by this!

I was addressing the post that I quoted first, and then you which is why I used your name.

I don't consider my comment to be negative, it's all in how you take it I guess. I even apologized that you are getting upset.

Seems to me that you just like to argue....

Have a nice day!

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by LilMissy

I was addressing the post that I quoted first, and then you which is why I used your name.

I don't consider my comment to be negative, it's all in how you take it I guess. I even apologized that you are getting upset.

Seems to me that you just like to argue....

Have a nice day!

i actually didn't see the bottom part where you addressed me for some reason...hmmm...

that sounded a lot less negative when i did see it though,

i try pretty hard not to argue, but i've been relentlessly attacked over my own personal choices and decisions regarding my puppie so i guess i'm getting a little over reactive about it.

i'm just trying to be nice to everyone and respect them, and i wish they'd do the same for me. and yea we're not going up to see my parents even if they did let Sadie come in the house, it's too soon, but i still need the advice about how to get him to love her in the future..he's even said that he thinks dogs shouldn't wear sweaters because it takes away their ability to adapt to the cold, i tried to explain about them not growing the undercoat, but he wanted to argue with me so my mom whispered "drop-it" and i did...must be where i get it huhh?? j/k i really don't like to argue, i just have to defend myself a lot in life, dad and now YT, it's tiring, think i'll go make some food for Sadie with my auntie and see Bailey

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by Amazing Yorkies

My thoughts exactly. Especially coming from you, Yorkie_mama... I'm not sure you should be casting stones...

My thoughts exactly. Kind of like the kettle calling the pot black!!!!!!!!

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

Thanks to those who have given advice to me that i have actually asked for!!


About the puppy mill thing in Missouri, i have found that yes this state has more than any other state, but you will be happy to know that the governement of this state is doing more to help that problem be resolved.

Why not write to your state legislators that you want this problem to stop and you want stronger and more harsh laws on breeders so this won't happen.

I have emailed my breeder several times to help him out in his process of registration and licensing in the state of MO, i have sent him an email with the Blue Ribbon Kennel Program link so that he can apply to become one of these if he'd like. This breeder as i've said over 20 times now, is NOT a puppy mill, he is not raising hundreds of dogs and selling them for ridiculous prices and then turning his back on the owners when they need help. He is an honest person, he helps the owners learn to raise their pups, and he loves and takes care of his babies just the same as any other person on here. He does this because he likes being around the puppies and he likes to see people happy. His kennels are clean and sanitary and he takes very good care of each and every mother, father, and puppy that he raises. His wife Linda also helps care for the puppies and they give them baths and trim their nails and feed them well and play play play with them everyday. A puppy miller wouldn't play with his puppies and let them chase him around the yard calling them by the names he's picked out and bringing them in the house for a bath and to cuddle with. This person could never harm a hair on a puppies head and doesn't let his puppies go until HE personally feels they are ready. He is knowledgeable and educated and though he may let puppies go earlier than most of you accept, he still looks out for what He personally feels is best for the pup.

So enough with the comments that I am getting my puppy from a puppy mill, i've had it with your rude and hateful remarks. IF you aren't here to be kind and help me to learn to care for my puppy then keep your opinions to yourselves. I don't want one more of this nonsense about puppy mills or how sick or disgusted you are.

I'm a very kindhearted, loving, sweet, and happy person, i've never in my life had so much trouble from strangers. I make friends everywhere I go and am one of the nicest people you will ever meet. I only wanted to come on here to have good advice and support and encouragement as my little one grows up with me, but instead i've found a lot more of angry, hurtful, and rude people who can't keep their nose in their own business. I know i've asked for advice about the age of bringing home a puppy before, but i'm not asking for that advice anymore...and that's all it was, was advice, i didn't need all the rudeness and disrespect with those comments.

I'm done with this conversation, if you want to help me raise her and give me knowledge please do, if you want to talk about her age or where she came from, start your own thread somewhere else, it's not welcome here anymore..


Thank you all and have a nice day!!

That little red triangle under your name is there so you can report rude posts to admin. You should use it. some of these posts are extremely rudde to you. I'm sorry for that.

[mimimomo]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

Thanks to those who have given advice to me that i have actually asked for!!


About the puppy mill thing in Missouri, i have found that yes this state has more than any other state, but you will be happy to know that the governement of this state is doing more to help that problem be resolved.

Why not write to your state legislators that you want this problem to stop and you want stronger and more harsh laws on breeders so this won't happen.

I have emailed my breeder several times to help him out in his process of registration and licensing in the state of MO, i have sent him an email with the Blue Ribbon Kennel Program link so that he can apply to become one of these if he'd like. This breeder as i've said over 20 times now, is NOT a puppy mill, he is not raising hundreds of dogs and selling them for ridiculous prices and then turning his back on the owners when they need help. He is an honest person, he helps the owners learn to raise their pups, and he loves and takes care of his babies just the same as any other person on here. He does this because he likes being around the puppies and he likes to see people happy. His kennels are clean and sanitary and he takes very good care of each and every mother, father, and puppy that he raises. His wife Linda also helps care for the puppies and they give them baths and trim their nails and feed them well and play play play with them everyday. A puppy miller wouldn't play with his puppies and let them chase him around the yard calling them by the names he's picked out and bringing them in the house for a bath and to cuddle with. This person could never harm a hair on a puppies head and doesn't let his puppies go until HE personally feels they are ready. He is knowledgeable and educated and though he may let puppies go earlier than most of you accept, he still looks out for what He personally feels is best for the pup.

So enough with the comments that I am getting my puppy from a puppy mill, i've had it with your rude and hateful remarks. IF you aren't here to be kind and help me to learn to care for my puppy then keep your opinions to yourselves. I don't want one more of this nonsense about puppy mills or how sick or disgusted you are.

I'm a very kindhearted, loving, sweet, and happy person, i've never in my life had so much trouble from strangers. I make friends everywhere I go and am one of the nicest people you will ever meet. I only wanted to come on here to have good advice and support and encouragement as my little one grows up with me, but instead i've found a lot more of angry, hurtful, and rude people who can't keep their nose in their own business. I know i've asked for advice about the age of bringing home a puppy before, but i'm not asking for that advice anymore...and that's all it was, was advice, i didn't need all the rudeness and disrespect with those comments.

I'm done with this conversation, if you want to help me raise her and give me knowledge please do, if you want to talk about her age or where she came from, start your own thread somewhere else, it's not welcome here anymore..


Thank you all and have a nice day!!

I'm not trying to stir anything here, I'm just so curious as to know, WHY would they let a pup go at 6 weeks old? Here in Ca, selling pups under 8 weeks old is illegal. My apologies if this has been answered here or in another thread, as I haven't been following it.

[RachelandSadie]

actually he only "might" let her go then, it may be more like 7 or 8 weeks, which i know is young, but he watches them eat and play and makes sure that they are doing well without mom and that they can eat on their own and aren't whining for her, if they aren't doing as well, he'll wait longer until he feels like they are ready enough...i think he may be letting them go too soon the same as everyone else on here, but i also trust him enough to let him make that call...anyways, hope that anwers you a little

[LilMissy]

GOOD

I'm glad that my post seems less negative. I try really hard to not offend anyone while posting my opinions on public forums.

I'm also happy to read that you are reconsidering travelling with your little one. My vet recommended that I wait one week after my girls last set of shots before bringing her around public places or other animals. I'm a freaky paranoid Mama, so I listened.

Oh, and don't worry about your parents not loving your new puppy. I haven't met a person yet that doesn't fall madly in love with a Yorkie once they know one.

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

i actually didn't see the bottom part where you addressed me for some reason...hmmm...

that sounded a lot less negative when i did see it though,

i try pretty hard not to argue, but i've been relentlessly attacked over my own personal choices and decisions regarding my puppie so i guess i'm getting a little over reactive about it.

i'm just trying to be nice to everyone and respect them, and i wish they'd do the same for me. and yea we're not going up to see my parents even if they did let Sadie come in the house, it's too soon, but i still need the advice about how to get him to love her in the future..he's even said that he thinks dogs shouldn't wear sweaters because it takes away their ability to adapt to the cold, i tried to explain about them not growing the undercoat, but he wanted to argue with me so my mom whispered "drop-it" and i did...must be where i get it huhh?? j/k i really don't like to argue, i just have to defend myself a lot in life, dad and now YT, it's tiring, think i'll go make some food for Sadie with my auntie and see Bailey

[mimimomo]

Ok, thanks for the response. Just to let you know...don't take things personally when someone posts something that you might take offence to. I know sometimes we can 'read' differently what someone is typing. Sometimes things are not what it seems. I myself read most of the posts & it seemed (to me) that people were giving opinions (some might have been strong opinions) based on their own experiences &/or circumstances.
I wish you the best of luck & urge you to not get so emotional over other people's opinions. After all, they're just opinions. Gosh, I've said the word opinions alot. lol

[TOY]

To the OP,

I think I am probably much older than many of those responding to you in this thread and may have a much different perspective for you.

We haven't had our Yorkie all that long. She's 7 months old today so we've had her 4 months. Frankly, it seems like only yesterday that we got her and yet at the same time, I can't remember what our house was like without her. She has brought laughter and joy with her very presence and has brightened our very "retired" lives with her antics.

I don't even intend to give advice about puppies since I probably don't know more than about 4 months more than you (LOL) although like you, I read lots of books and lots of posts before we brought our girl home.

What has alarmed me in the thread (in addition to the comments that border on insensitive and rude) has been the advice concerning your parents. My parents would have been opposed to my bringing an "inside" dog to their home, too. Notice the past tense.

What would I have done? I don't have to pause or think this through even though I love our puppy immensely. I would honor my parents' wishes. Even though I was reared (raised, really) in that home and it was the location of my childhood, when I left as an adult, I did not assume that I was a voting member of that household any longer.

I know that I will not be able to express this with the intensity that my heart feels, but I would give anything to have the opportunity to make arrangements for Taffy so that I could go visit my parents. They are both deceased and I still miss them with a raw grief that no puppy can entirely heal. Part of our reason for getting our Yorkie was to help heal the grief of losing my very last family member.

I know it's a moot point right now since your puppy needs shots, etc. but I would encourage you to find a kennel you like or a pet-loving friend or relative that you trust to keep your puppy if your parents do not change their outlook over time. I cannot imagine anything sadder than to think that a child's bond with a parent was damaged because of a pet regardless of how beloved that pet is.

Our parents sacrificed so much for us. I think it is such a small repayment for us to honor and respect them. In the natural scheme of things, there will come a time when we no longer have those parents' presences in our lives. The depth of that loss is great enough without regret that we lost precious time with them because we couldn't bring an animal to stay within their home.

I love our puppy so much and hope that you will find as much joy in yours as we have found in ours. I only wish I had the opportunity to demonstrate to my parents once again how very much I love them.

I would encourage you to remember that there are many people in the world (relatives included) who view our Yorkies as the animals they are. This does not make them less human or hateful people, it only makes them people with different opinions. (I don't think it takes a Yorkie owner very long to forget the basic biological fact that a Yorkie is an animal. I think you'll understand after a couple of days with yours...LOL)

My parents were both smokers yet never smoked in my home because they respected my smoke-free house. Respect is a mutual thing but I learned it from my parents. I've never believed that respect and manners were dependent upon age nor just a Southern way of life. I just hope it's a value that continues into the next generations. With all the attention given to the natural resources we leave the generations to come, I hope we don't fail to consider the human resources they also need to treasure.

I want to believe that our love for our Yorkie, Taffy, enriches and expands our lives instead of shrinking and diminishing our relationships with people. There is no way I can become a "love me, love my Yorkie" person because it would make me such a hypocrite. You see, I have dear friends with cats and were I to have to love their cats to be their friend, I would fail miserably!

[Ladymom]

Originally Posted by mimimomo

I'm not trying to stir anything here, I'm just so curious as to know, WHY would they let a pup go at 6 weeks old? Here in Ca, selling pups under 8 weeks old is illegal. My apologies if this has been answered here or in another thread, as I haven't been following it.

Unfortunately, Missouri puppy mills are a very profitable industry and legislators don't enact laws to restrict it. Even existing laws aren't enforced as as the facilities are not being inspected regularly as required by law. That's why the state has earned the shameful nickname of The Puppy Mill Capital of the United States.

Puppy Mills - Missouri State Auditor reports