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Old 06-29-2009, 10:07 AM   #1
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My fiancee is in the process of moving her stuff from where she currently lives into my house, and this includes her yorkie, Pepper. This dog has been great up until when she started visiting me for extended stays and it really got worse when she left him with me for a week so he could get accustomed to the new house. This dog now absolutely hates me. The entire week he was with me he peed on everything in the house (he's a male, not fixed). He has always notified her (and me when I'm visiting her) when he needs to go outside by barking, whining, and if need be licking one of us in the face if we are taking a nap. He now sneaks off and pees on everything. He marked his territory around pretty much the entire perimiter of the house on the baseboards, he peed on every piece of furniture I have (including the refrigerator), he peed on the curains, the carpet, the doors of the bedrooms, etc... Anything he can hike his leg on he does it. He has also become very aggressively possessive. Any time I get up from bed he moves into my spot and then growls at me when I come back to bed. We have been trying to correct this by telling him no and spatting him on the butt...has always worked in the past to correct his behavior according to her, however, when I did that this morning he bit me, drawing blood, on my arm. I will NOT tolerate an aggressive dog that bites, but it is not my dog. I have a westie that stays outdoors and I can guarantee that if she bit more than once she would be put down by the vet less than 30 mins after the second bite. I won't tolerate it. Neither of us know what to do about his behavior though, any suggestions??
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My fiancee is in the process of moving her stuff from where she currently lives into my house, and this includes her yorkie, Pepper. This dog has been great up until when she started visiting me for extended stays and it really got worse when she left him with me for a week so he could get accustomed to the new house. This dog now absolutely hates me. The entire week he was with me he peed on everything in the house (he's a male, not fixed). He has always notified her (and me when I'm visiting her) when he needs to go outside by barking, whining, and if need be licking one of us in the face if we are taking a nap. He now sneaks off and pees on everything. He marked his territory around pretty much the entire perimiter of the house on the baseboards, he peed on every piece of furniture I have (including the refrigerator), he peed on the curains, the carpet, the doors of the bedrooms, etc... Anything he can hike his leg on he does it. He has also become very aggressively possessive. Any time I get up from bed he moves into my spot and then growls at me when I come back to bed. We have been trying to correct this by telling him no and spatting him on the butt...has always worked in the past to correct his behavior according to her, however, when I did that this morning he bit me, drawing blood, on my arm. I will NOT tolerate an aggressive dog that bites, but it is not my dog. I have a westie that stays outdoors and I can guarantee that if she bit more than once she would be put down by the vet less than 30 mins after the second bite. I won't tolerate it. Neither of us know what to do about his behavior though, any suggestions??
My boy Little Bear (RIP) was the same way. I kept a wrap on him while indoors. No one was allowed around me. He never bit, but would guard me at all times if anyone was around, and if you walked toward me he would stand guard by barking and growling. I would suggest that you post this in the training section, I am not much help but thought I would let you know that I have been there to. Please don't consider having him put down. There is help out there. I would call around and see about getting him into obedience training.
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Firstly welcome to yt.
You do have a dilemma on your hands .How did Pepper get on with your dog? Could it be that Pepper is trying to dominate the house because there is another dog there?
Im afraid I don't believe in smacking dogs at all.If you watch Ceaser he grabs the scruff of the neck of small dogs, as that what the mother dog does to put a pup to put it in its place.Im sure there will be lots of good advice on its way.
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So sorry to hear about your girlfriends dog's aggression. I don't really have any advice on how to handle aggressions but I do know that you should reward the dog with treats for any positive behavior (i.e., if he pees outside give him a treat).

As for the marking around your house, if you haven't done so already it might be a good idea to pick-up Nature's Miracle Stain and Odor Remover to remove all the pee stains/smell. Usual household cleaning products may remove the stain but not the odor.

In addition, you might want to pick up a few belly bands to prevent him from any future marking. One of our YT member '2parises' sells belly bands for a very reasonable price and they work wonders.

Last but not the least, when you're not home you might want to confine him to the bathroom or kitchen until he fully potty re-trained again.
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It sounds like Pepper is marking his territory because you have another
dog. That's normal, not his fault, it's a dog thing.
However, I would certainly confine him to one room at this time.
He is also confused. Yorkies are very smart dogs. I would say he feels
insecure a this time, hence his actions. I would not allow him on your bed
ever! Your right, no dog should bite, ever! Again, he's frightened and needs
to feel secure. You need to become Alpha in your household. Reclaim
your bed. Put him in his own. Swatting him on the butt will only make him
fear you, instead reward him when he does something good. Take charge.
Take him for a walk, sit and play with him, bond with him but do not give
him his own way. Make him sit before feeding, going out or giving him a
treat. This is being his leader, sounds like he needs one. When a yorkie
does not have a leader they put themselves in charge.
Have patience. His world as he has known it no longer exists and he's
frightened and confused.
May I ask why your Westie is outside?
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:20 AM   #6
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My westie (Lucy - female) is outside because we thought it might help with Pepper's indoor behavior, and to be honest it has. I have went through periods of time where Lucy stays outdoors and periods of time when she stays indoors. She does equally as well in either position. She adapts very well and doesnt feel slighted if she doesn't get attention. The back yard is fenced in with grass and a couple of nice trees and she loves playing back there, chasing squirrels, chasing birds, etc.. so I thought it best to try and see if Pepper's behavior got any better with her outside. What I don't understand even more is why he won't have anything to do with her. She absolutely craves his attention and wants to play, he turns his head and acts like snob towards her. I do believe you are right though, he needs to be put back in his place by me displaying alpha behavior, I did this with my Westie from day 1 and she is very submissive to me but also is very loving of everyone at the same time. I think I have trained her well, maybe some of my techniques used on her will work on him, but I'm afraid it will not be pleasant for him or my fiancee because she has sort of babied him his whole life and he's going on 6 years old now.
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First, this dog should be neutered, not sure why he isn't, but there is NO need to have all those hormones racing thru him. So that's what I would be gearing up for. Second, he is confused and his space should be limited - can you gate him in the kitchen? Get some Belly Bands too and only do Positive Praise and a good treat reward for good behavior.

...kinda feel bad for the Westie outside
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but I'm afraid it will not be pleasant for him or my fiancee because she has sort of babied him his whole life and he's going on 6 years old now.


If she wants to have a well rounded pet then the two of you need
to work together. Heaven forbid he bite someone else she won't
have a pet at all. I hope she works with you on training this little
one towards good behavior, if not all I see is trouble for everyone.
Good luck,

P.S. Is it possible the two dogs could get to know each other better
outdoors during a play time, being monitored of course. The Yorkie
needs time to adjust. I hope he can become friends with you girl.
Who ever heard of a male not likeing a female
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Welcome to YT . First of all male yorkie's are nortious leg lifters. Especially when they are not fixed. first thing to do is get him fixed ! Anther problem is that he is in a new invironment. You guys allowed him to have free reign of the home. If he was not potty trained the he needs to be confined to a certain area. PLace him in a Ex pen, or start crate training him. He can't have access to the whole house.
Is this new behavior? Was he trained before your GF moved ? If the yorke was trained then this is behavior is caused by the stress of the move. However it still need s to be dealt with propperly.
The Yorkie should never be swatted ever. This is causing fear agression . He is responding very negative , from you hitting him. Of course he will want to bite anyone who is going to hurt him. Please stop hitting this yorkie, it is making things worse. And it is not how you train a dog.
DO not let the dog sleep on the bed either. Keep him out of the room all together, and give him his own bed somewhere else in the house. Along with pee pads.
Let your girlfriend handle the Yorkie instead . Because the yorkie is aggressive towards you, and it is not a good situation right now. He is scared of you because of the hitting. This behavior is not going to go away, until you regain his trust.
Under no circumstances should anyone hit a dog.
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Hi there anf welcome to YT. You have come to the right place for really good advice. I can see that you have more than 1 issue going on and you need to break this down into several parts. First lets address the marking issue. If he is not neutered he needs to be otherwise he will continue to mark akk over your house. Until you are able to get the neuter scheduled and for about 1 month after he should wear a belly band while inside and not be left unsupervised. I buy my belly bands here: Belly Bands*::*Yorkie Haven Rescue Boutique

They are basically a strip of fabric that goes around the body and prevent the marking to hit your floor, furniture or whatever he is trying to mark. You will need to purchase several as they will not stop the behavior but prevent the marking. Basically a diaper for lack of a better reference. You can also add to the adsorption by adding a pantyliner inside to help catch the urine. Hitting him will not make this behavior (or any other) stop. It is hormone driven and until he is neutered it will continue and that is not even a guarantee it will totally stop. You also need to keep him tethered to your waste with a leash and harness so that he in not able to roam around and pee at will. Put his harness on and leash and leave it on him untill you can get these issues under control.

Now for the aggressive behavior issue. If he is attacking you and drawing blood he needs to be controlled. There are several things that I can suggest for this as well. Once again hitting is not your answer but control along with positive reinforcement is. If he is attacking you when you are trying to get into bed do not let him in the bed. It is possessive aggression and it is the most frustration aggression to have to deal with. Take a water bottle with a squeeze top and fill it with vinegar and water to use when he goes into attack mode. You need to take the leash and control him and you a word that he is use to as the word no. You don't want to use "no" because we use that word many time in casual conversation. UHUH would be good. Never raise your voice but be stern. If he goes to attack or growls you can use the spray bottle and the no word. Do not hit him~control his aggression. I have also used a pair of welding gloves so that I did not get bit. Do not back down, if you do he will see that his aggression is affective and he is getting the desired response.

Please do not have him put down for this behavior. If you address it properly it can be fixed. I will offer you as much advice as I possible can to help you. If all else fails you can surrender him to a Yorkie rescue who will work to rehabilitate and place him in the environment that he needs to be in.

I am speaking from experience you this can be overcome. I will be off the board fir a few days since I am having surgery but I have a blackberry and IM but it will be nearlt impossible to post to the boards for a few days. I would be willing to even speak to you on the phone to help. It is dangerous to have an out of control dog in your home even if it is a 5 lb dog
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Is your westie spayed? If not she is also an issue in your marking problem. I didn'r realize that he was 6 yrs old! I'll bet that he has been marking for years and this will be very difficult to break.
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Would your fiance consider getting the yorkie neutered? That won't fix the problem, but it should help it quite a bit. Also, there are a lot of trainers our there. We used "Bark Busters" with Bandit. They have contracts that can last for a one time visit, one year, or a lifetime, and they'll come back whenever you need them. Good luck!!!
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