Everyone-PLEASE-read and THINK ABOUT....

[Obie]

Contact was made with the person in Oklaholma who is putting her Biewers and Tri colored Yorkies in the Missouri auction on consignment. It was found out that the Biewers are 6 weeks old. Now, I was under the wrong impression. I was thinking that adult breeding Biewers were in this auction which I supported in getting out. Now I am suddenly upset that any rescue would go in there and buy up puppies from a breeder who cannot sell them. The auctions that I am familiar with are the ones where bitches are used over and over and over until they cannot be bred again and are at deaths door. Those are the ones that need to be rescued. This woman that we contacted was a real shocker and those are the ones that need to go into the hall of shame!

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by Obie

Contact was made with the person in Oklaholma who is putting her Biewers and Tri colored Yorkies in the Missouri auction on consignment. It was found out that the Biewers are 6 weeks old. Now, I was under the wrong impression. I was thinking that adult breeding Biewers were in this auction which I supported in getting out. Now I am suddenly upset that any rescue would go in there and buy up puppies from a breeder who cannot sell them. The auctions that I am familiar with are the ones where bitches are used over and over and over until they cannot be bred again and are at deaths door. Those are the ones that need to be rescued. This woman that we contacted was a real shocker and those are the ones that need to go into the hall of shame!

This doesn't surprise me in the least. OKYR has never been about buying the older used up breeders at auction, they've always bought as many puppies as they could.

This past 6 months the bottom has fallen out of puppy sales and things are not looking up any time soon with the economy not doing well. Breeders are still going to make money, even if it means selling dogs at auction - it's just another avenue for them to sell. May be for less money but hey - if they are getting less for them - they'll just produce more - after all they've never been about quality - it's always about making money.

So any rescue that attends this auction and buys dogs is only perpetuating the misery for more dogs down the line.....it's a crying shame!!!!!

[QuickSilver]

I've seen this at the other end of the puppy mill cycle, the huge number of dogs being dumped at shelters due to the economy. Maybe ultimately this could be a good thing - if no one goes to auctions, maybe that puts some millers out of business.

[LuvMyPrinceKobi]

Originally Posted by Kelz

we really do not have a huge support system.. in fact we only have one person who i would call a supported to donates every month.. we have had an handful people donate stuff.

Ouch....that hurts. How could you say something like that, and then post later that you received literally THOUSANDS of dollars JUST in monetary donations. I know I for one have been a part of sending blankets to OKYR as well as donated money at last year's Kansas City Meet-up that went to OKYR, so I am not happy to hear this....to me, it shows immaturity and ungratefulness...

Originally Posted by Kelz

it was answered privately.. way to add fuel to the fire jen!! Just keep stirring things up!! that's what you are good at!

Why can this not be posted publicly? I still do not understand? I am not trying to add "fuel" to any "fire", but I really think if you all want to make yourselves look better, the only way to do so is post information such as this....

What a horribly sad situation

[chattiesmom]

Originally Posted by Kelz
we really do not have a huge support system.. in fact we only have one person who i would call a supported to donates every month.. we have had an handful people donate stuff.

I donated products to the organization as well and never received an acknowledgement, much less a simple thank you until I contacted a Rescue Member almost a month later to find out if the products had been received.

I know that I not support this rescue in the future.

[PrincessDiana]

Originally Posted by LuvMyPrinceKobi

Ouch....that hurts. How could you say something like that, and then post later that you received literally THOUSANDS of dollars JUST in monetary donations. I know I for one have been a part of sending blankets to OKYR as well as donated money at last year's Kansas City Meet-up that went to OKYR, so I am not happy to hear this....to me, it shows immaturity and ungratefulness...

What a horribly sad situation

Agreed. I remember LOTS of donations from YT members.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ttendee-s.html

[peanut]

I am in just shocked about the whole thing, and some of the people that are doing what they are doing in this thread, you really opened my eyes up. People I thought I knew, well I guess I don't.

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by PrincessDiana

Agreed. I remember LOTS of donations from YT members.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ttendee-s.html

This post was quoted from your linked thread.

Originally Posted by YorkieChick1

I picked your charity for the meetup donation also. I am so happy that it will go directly to helping those pups!! So many times you make a donation you wonder if it is paying the executives salaries instead of helping the needy. Can't wait to see who you all are going to help with the money!!

I regret to inform you of just who was helped with this money - the puppy millers. This money was given during the time of the 2 auctions in which OKYR bought at least 20 dogs, most of which were puppies or younger dogs - not older, used up breeders.

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by Obie

Contact was made with the person in Oklaholma who is putting her Biewers and Tri colored Yorkies in the Missouri auction on consignment. It was found out that the Biewers are 6 weeks old. Now, I was under the wrong impression. I was thinking that adult breeding Biewers were in this auction which I supported in getting out. Now I am suddenly upset that any rescue would go in there and buy up puppies from a breeder who cannot sell them. The auctions that I am familiar with are the ones where bitches are used over and over and over until they cannot be bred again and are at deaths door. Those are the ones that need to be rescued. This woman that we contacted was a real shocker and those are the ones that need to go into the hall of shame!

As disturbing as purchasing any dog from an auction...the puppy news is even more so. Buying puppies insures the "breeder" will continue on pumping out puppies.

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by LuvMyPrinceKobi

Ouch....that hurts. How could you say something like that, and then post later that you received literally THOUSANDS of dollars JUST in monetary donations. I know I for one have been a part of sending blankets to OKYR as well as donated money at last year's Kansas City Meet-up that went to OKYR, so I am not happy to hear this....to me, it shows immaturity and ungratefulness...

Why can this not be posted publicly? I still do not understand? I am not trying to add "fuel" to any "fire", but I really think if you all want to make yourselves look better, the only way to do so is post information such as this....

What a horribly sad situation

Since I've received pm's regarding this...I'll post it publically.

The biewers purchased were paid entirely with donations given from the women on a biewer forum, NOT personal funds.

[RebelBelle]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

Since I've received pm's regarding this...I'll post it publically.

The biewers purchased were paid entirely with donations given from the women on a biewer forum, NOT personal funds.

Hmmmmmmm........... interesting.......

[andibaby]

Did they know what they were giving towards?

Originally Posted by bchgirl

Since I've received pm's regarding this...I'll post it publically.

The biewers purchased were paid entirely with donations given from the women on a biewer forum, NOT personal funds.

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by andibaby

Did they know what they were giving towards?

Just to clarify these were donations for the 1st two male biewers. Kelz had posted a thread on board, so yes they knew.

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

As disturbing as purchasing any dog from an auction...the puppy news is even more so. Buying puppies insures the "breeder" will continue on pumping out puppies.

You're right. Rescues are providing the "market" for many of these puppies.

Most breeders are going to get on average $50 when they sell a puppy to a broker. With the pet store market being down, they are now making part of their money by providing dogs at auctions for rescues to buy. It makes no difference to the breeder if the broker buys one for $50 or if a rescue buys one for $50 - to them it's the same money!

When they (OKYR) go at the end of March and in April to buy these Biewers they are guaranteeing the breeders will produce more. So, all of the Biewer lovers here, you can be rest assured the Biewer will be part of the auctions from this point forward, just like the yorkies.

[erickajm]

I am for one hoping that throughout this thread that this rescue and others will reconsider the way they are conducting their business. It is a shame for any rescue organization to support these auctions. You can claim that it is all about the rescue but any person that buys that needs to rethink what the definition of a rescue is. It has been simply put on here several times... if you stop buying from these auctions, the supply/demand will go down. It is insane to think that this or any rescue would be buying up puppies from these auctions. I can only imagine the look on the adult (used up dogs) faces as they are passed up for the bundle of puppies. To me its disgusting and disappointing!