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03-10-2009, 09:39 AM | #16 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member | Thank you Andi, I know this took a lot for you to post and I know what you've posted is the truth, it's one of the reasons I could no longer support them.
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03-10-2009, 10:11 AM | #17 | |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Quote:
I'm guessing it was pretty tough for you to name them, but I think it's the right thing to do - thank you.
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03-10-2009, 11:09 AM | #18 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: With my yorkies
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| I just found this thread about an hour ago. I've been debating whether or not to post. I just don't know what to think. I adopted the biewer named 'Talon' from the November thread below. Talon, now re-named Jordy, is my sweetheart and it hurts to hear that maybe I was helping the puppy mills instead of helping a 'rescue' like I believed I was. I do know that now he has a momma who loves him, healthy meals, regular baths and all the playtime/naptime he wants. I do not regret bringing Jordy into my home at all. What do you all think? http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ghlight=biewer
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03-10-2009, 11:14 AM | #19 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | Great thread, I wish there was more the average person could do to check out a rescue. I know of one person who wanted to start a rescue for "teacups" or tiny yorkies, and I got the feeling it was just so she could find a free pet for herself, and sell the others. How hard is it to place a tiny? Can anyone call themselves a rescue? Aren't there any laws or regulations, if donations are made?
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03-10-2009, 11:19 AM | #20 | |
Owned By Ace and Lizzie Donating Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: oklahoma
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I think you did a good thing-but it is all in what we learn and what we take from it. You would never trade your baby for the world, but you would know for sure where the next one came from and look at the BIGGER picture. That baby that came from the auction made a place for another baby. And so the cycle goes on. I am sorry I didn't step forward sooner. This was hard. And I would hate for owners to feel guilty. We are started somewhere.
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03-10-2009, 11:26 AM | #21 | |
Owned By Ace and Lizzie Donating Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: oklahoma
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That is insane too!! But-I am familiar with something similar.
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03-10-2009, 11:54 AM | #22 |
I ♥ Franklin & Maggie Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oklahoma
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| Talking about a rescue, especially a specific one can be very tough so I commend Andrea for posting this. I struggled with whether or not to reply because I used to be/still sort of am affiliated with this organization. I originally PMed Andrea but I think I have to step in and share my thoughts. First off, I want to say that I don't think that rescues have bad intentions when they buy from auction. The idea is that they are saving dogs from future puppymills and bybs by pulling them out of breeding stock. HOWEVER, after reading some posts on this thread and rethinking the situation, I do agree that it shouldn't be done. I don't think this alone makes OKYR (or any other rescue that does this) a BAD rescue. It simply makes them misunderstood. They are not trying to buy discount puppies and turn around and re-sell them at a higher price, if that's what some of you are implying. I think they are misguided in their attempt to save as many dogs as possible but I am optimistic that they do so with pure hearts. I won't comment on the issue of excitement towards biewers/partis vs. other rescues. While I don't agree with the way OKYR is run or some of the things they do, I do want you all to keep in mind that OKYR is trying their best to do what they say and that is save dogs. I know this thread brought up a touchy subject and at first glance it may be easy to get angry and bash them/other rescues, but for every little bad thing they do, so many more good things happen. The have saved probably over a hundred dogs (probably more... I don't keep track) since the start of the rescue just under a year ago. Don't dismiss them completely because of this. Don't forget that OKYR has made a difference in the lives of many dogs and many new owners, as I'm sure many rescues have. I don't want you all to feel like they are a fraud and/or feel guilty for supporting them. Hopefully they will see this thread and rethink their actions. If not, they will probably lose a lot of support but that's something they'll just have to consider. I agree that rescues should be transparent and held accountable for what they do. I feel a lot of times non-profits lack any real structure or organization and a lot of things fall through the cracks. This is an issue I struggled with during my active time with them.
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03-10-2009, 12:05 PM | #23 |
Owned By Ace and Lizzie Donating Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: oklahoma
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| Very good post Diana. I agree that this was never meant to be a bashing of any sort. And I apologize if anyone is taking it that way. I just think that sometimes it gets cloudy and maybe things need to be brought back into perspective. It is about saving those that would never be saved. They have done this as well.
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03-10-2009, 12:06 PM | #24 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: With my yorkies
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| I wanted to add that when I adopted Jordy, everyone I spoke with really seemed to care about the animals. I had to fill out a detailed application, answer questions, interview, etc. They seemed to make an honest effort to ensure that I would provide a good, safe home. As I said previously, I in no way regret getting Jordy. The adoption process was, for me, pleasant and friendly. I have recommended this rescue to others and I have to continue thanking them for my sweet little man! This post has been a lesson well learned!
__________________ He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. -- Author Unknown |
03-10-2009, 12:13 PM | #25 | |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Quote:
I'm sorry, but to me - that is just not in the spirit of a true rescue organization. Am I just off-base in thinking this is odd or the intent is "off"?
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03-10-2009, 12:18 PM | #26 | |
I ♥ Franklin & Maggie Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oklahoma
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__________________ Diana , Mommy to Franklin, Maggie, Oliver, and Millie - RIP Piper Last edited by PrincessDiana; 03-10-2009 at 12:21 PM. | |
03-10-2009, 12:23 PM | #27 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member | Is it still considered rescuing when the real excitement of a group is generated over the possibility of owning one of these dogs?
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03-10-2009, 12:25 PM | #28 |
Thor's Human Donating Member | I didn't realize rescues purchsed dogs at auctions. I find this very confusing, though I understand the idea of purchasing dogs that will otherwise be destroyed. It really seems like dancing with the devil, so to speak. Buying ANY animal from a puppy mill puts money in the miller's pocket, and this is presumably going to be re-invested in the mill. This seems like the same logic of "saving" puppies in pet stores - yes, you save that one, but you help the cycle continue. Even cornering the market and then pulling out seems to be an "ends justifying the means" strategy. By cornering the market, you push prices up, and cause more dogs to be bred. Then when the market collapses, at least some dogs will be destroyed. And I don't think this guarantees that bichons won't be bred anymore, does it? It just means that the millers will move to a more popular breed until bichons come back into style. What am I missing here? The puppy mill problem seems very solvable to me. We need a cultural shift that makes it unacceptable to buy a dog or cat from a pet store. Kaboom. This happened with "dolphin friendly" tuna fish. It can happen for puppy mills.
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03-10-2009, 12:26 PM | #29 | |
Donating YT 10K Club Member | Quote:
Certainly not the best use of funds....
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03-10-2009, 12:30 PM | #30 | ||
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Quote:
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I hope someday we get there - I wish it was tomorrow.
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