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11-30-2008, 03:13 PM | #16 | |
No Longer a Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: berea, ky
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I didn't realize that puppy mills pay so much for a breeder or even as a pet, this is really shocking to hear. | |
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11-30-2008, 03:20 PM | #17 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member | I would like to add my 2 cents here. I had a puppy who is 3# that I had originally listed for $3500. Part of the price, is the fact she is small and I want someone who can take her to the vet as often as she might need to go--she could be stepped on, dropped, or jump and easily be hurt. Part of the price is supply/demand. I have sold Biewers for $900. If I sell this little one for that price, I would have all sorts of folks thinking, I have a tiny--now I can breed her. Part of the price was the cost of bringing you to the puppy or the puppy to you. My puppy kit that goes with my dogs includes about $350 worth of toys, bed, food, etc. for the new puppy parents. Her parents or grandparents were imported from Germany, registered with Germany. Puppies go to the vet, vaccinations, well-puppy check ups. All dogs here eat highest quality foood. Vet checks on adult dogs. This puppy was recently spayed and had a few puppy teeth removed. Registerations. All this costs money. My pups are among the most socialized pups you will ever have. All this takes time and energy. I've taken payment plans for my pups and do in-depth reference checks on my dogs' buyers. I guarantee my pups' health--no genetic illnesses--for their entire lifetime. Are my dogs expensive? Yes. Have I lowered my prices in special cases? You bet. These dogs are a rare breed--we take them to shows and spend $$$ on these shows, hotels, gas, airlines. I don't want these dogs in puppy mills or auctions. Do I think anyone should spend $3000 on a Biewer--that is up to you. It is a matter of choice. Anyone can buy a Cadillac SUV or a PT Cruiser--they are both cars and both have 4 wheels and steering column and a radio. I hope this answers your questions. |
11-30-2008, 03:29 PM | #18 |
YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Michigan
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| The main reason of the price difference is that there are just NOT a lot of these dogs around. Open your newspaper or look online and you can see that. For instance on this is a quick look on Puppyfind. There are 173 Biewers for sale while there are a whopping 2,914 yorkshires for sale. That makes a big difference! Then you look at how much these dogs cost us all in the first place. I paid $3500 plus flying to PA to get my Halle - that came to $4000 total for just her. Then you look into stud service. A yorkie stud service runs around here anyway around $400 while with a Biewer most are asking $1000 PLUS that usually means you need to ship in the semen..pay for tests on your female to make sure it is the perfect time..and shipping overnight is pretty $ - about $60 each time and you they suggest you do it twice. Add everything up and your looking at around $1500 just for the stud service alone! Where you register depends on cost too. I had to become a member of the IBC and registered two puppies - that came up to approx. $200! Halle has had one litter and she had two girls. One I sold with full breeding rights for $2500 with shipping included and the other girl turned out very small. She was 2.4 lbs at 7 months - I was going to keep her for show/breeding, but she turned out too small. After a protein C test ($120) I sold her on spay/neuter contract with no papers until vet's confirmation for $1800 picked up. There are yorkies out there for that price too! I hope that helps a little with why the higher prices?
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11-30-2008, 03:30 PM | #19 | |
No Longer a Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: berea, ky
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BTW you know your Biewer was the one that got me interested in them in the first place. So now I have raised a few questions on the difference. | |
11-30-2008, 03:34 PM | #20 |
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| A pet biewer will run from $1500(males) on up to $5000 for a female. They are a new breed. I have seen yorkies that are running more than some biewers. In time, as they become more popular in the states, the prices will come down. Look how many yorkies there are compared to biewers. I just bought my 2nd biewer, she cost a lot, but, was worth every penny, and I don't breed, all my dogs are pets only |
11-30-2008, 03:38 PM | #21 | |
No Longer a Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: berea, ky
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Now that makes sense..........all it took is to lay it out. Thank you............now I might keep looking and saving, and get one. What is a protein C test? Is this something I need to have done for Chino. Remember you are talking to a pet owner and a new one at that. This is why I asked the questions on the price difference in the first place. | |
11-30-2008, 03:49 PM | #22 | |
YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Michigan
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A protein C is a test to check on how the liver is functioning. It checks for how much protein C is in the blood and what has been filtered out by the liver. If you get a super high protein C result then that means the liver is not filtering correctly. I actually requested this test to be done before I bought my Emmie Lou! Our vet thinks that there are just WAY too many things that throw off a bile acid so they thought this was a great idea! They do draw a lot of blood and I would be scared to do it on a puppy, but no fasting is required. No vets around my area offer a bile acid without fasting overnight I chose to do the test to make sure that she was totally healthy before I rehomed her since she was just 2.4 lbs. That is not something you have to do though - same as what registery you go with - some are much less expensive
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11-30-2008, 06:43 PM | #23 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member | I didn't take it personally.....other than I have a dog posted--and I am always happy to answer about the breed, my dogs, etc. I think this was a very good discussion and I didn't see anyone getting upset--I wish we could have more discussions without the strum and drum we frequently see. The information about the Protein C was very helpful. The vets here in CA prefer to do the Bile Acid when a puppy is about 16 weeks. |
11-30-2008, 07:11 PM | #24 |
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| We just got our Yorkie , and when we started looking , all the prices I found were $2,500.00 and up plus either shipping fees or flying to get it fees . So that ended up around $3000.00 . So I would hate to see what a Biewer is going for !! I just assumed that was the price Yorkie's were. And once I saw Choe I had to have her so the price was just a side issue by then....But she's soooo worth it.
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