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Old 08-16-2008, 09:54 AM   #16
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As one of the above poster stated this may not even be illegal (the shooting) I just found out that in PA where I live it is not. A puppy mill owner near me just shot over 50 dogs because AKC visited and said he had to have medical attention for his animals so rather then spend the money on vet bills he just shot the dogs. It's a sad world we live in
Aaarrrrggghhh! This makes me just heartsick! How in the world could this be legal? In my mind, it is mass murder.
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As one of the above poster stated this may not even be illegal (the shooting) I just found out that in PA where I live it is not. A puppy mill owner near me just shot over 50 dogs because AKC visited and said he had to have medical attention for his animals so rather then spend the money on vet bills he just shot the dogs. It's a sad world we live in

That's so damn sick!!! Burn in Hell murderer!
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Old 08-16-2008, 11:18 AM   #18
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Is there anyway you can get your fiance's sister to help you remove the animals from the home? Maybe while she's out, go over there and take the animals and the gun out of the house.

Your future MIL needs some serious help. I hope for the sake of her family she gets it.

Do you think the sister is in danger? This sounds like a very volitile situation.

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Old 08-16-2008, 11:20 AM   #19
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That's so damn sick!!! Burn in Hell murderer!
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Oh my God
and nothing could be done to the puppymill owner?
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That is really horrible. It sounds like this woman has some serious mental issues that she needs to have addressed. It is very sad when people choose poor animals as an outlet for their psychological problems.
I feel the same way about my in-laws. Let's just say their view on pets and thier place in the world and how they should be cared for and treated is MUCH different than my own. I have told my husband this and at first he didn't understand why I couldn't just 'overlook' it when I was around them for the sake of keeping peace with them. I think he finally came around and understands, maybe coupled with the understanding of other issues we both have with them, and for the most part, we just stay away as much as possible. I am very glad that you fiancee understands and feels the same way you do towards the situation. It would get very complicated if here were blind to it and looking at his family as if they could do no wrong.
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and nothing could be done to the puppymill owner?
I wish the same pain, loneliness, poor health condition of the furbabies, and then get shot could be done to the puppymill owner.
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i think you should find out if its illegal to shoot a dog in your state, and if it is, report her annoymously and tell them about the shot dog in buried in the yard
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Hi,
I just wanted you to know that you are not alone when it comes to family issues/ and animals. I have a brother who tells me to hit my puppy/spank her whenever i don't like what she does AND unfortunately, when I was a child my own mother had my brother shoot my beloved kitty because he was very ill. The thinking is that they are "putting the animal out of it's misery" so in their eyes it is the best thing to do. I am still traumatized from that experiece. it was my first kitty and I loved him so much.
It is awful that people do that to their pets, and do not think twice about it.
I have learned not to have anything to do with those people .I don't trust anyone who could hurt an innocent animal. My brother who tries to say to me to hit my baby, after he knows she means the world to me, will never, ever, be alone with my Yorkie, EVER. You can't trust those kinds of people to be good and loving pet owners.
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I do not know what you should do- but the woman(can't call her a lady)
needs help with her drinking! IMO
it sounded like she was drinking when this happened- not sober! That is a big problem- not being a responsible person when drinking!It does affect some like that-
I would say this is the extreme!

She does not- and should not to own animals-
which is sad, for the daughter if still living with MOM!!
Poor girl having to bury her family dog!
that has to be something that will stay with her the rest of her life!Not every kid can handle that- stepping up to bury the dog- she is 1 hell of a girl- despite her MOM!!
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Thanks everybody for their help and advice! My fiancee and his mother don't have a good relationship AT ALL- even minus the fact she shot their dog. When he is home on leave, he *might* go see her once. But even that's a rare occasion. I told him about it while he was overseas, only because I didn't want him to find out 7 months from now, and hold that "why didn't you tell me?!" against me. I just told him once, and I wont bring it up again while he's there. But their relationship is horrible, even before this. So I don't think he would appose to me telling someone with animal cruelty. My fiancee has two sisters that live with his mother, and I honestly don't see them cooperating with me to remove the animals, because they would never see them again(since they live with their mother). My fiancee and I have a mutual feeling about his mother, so that has not been a problem within our relationship. He really can't stand her, and knows that she has issues. She is one of the main reasons he chose to join the Marines, to get far away from her. I think I will call our local shelter and let them know about it anonymously. Do shelters handle animal cruelty? Or is that under another organization? I would never take MY furbabies to her house- no chance in hell. And I've already established with my fiancee about our future children having supervised visits with their grandmother, and ONLY when she is sober. He agreed, and understands the seriousness of the situation. I am just worried about her children and other animals. She needs to be in the loony bin.
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They will ask you to testify I would do some online research and see if you can make an anonymous complaint (from a neighbor that heard the shots)
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Thanks everybody for their help and advice! My fiancee and his mother don't have a good relationship AT ALL- even minus the fact she shot their dog. When he is home on leave, he *might* go see her once. But even that's a rare occasion. I told him about it while he was overseas, only because I didn't want him to find out 7 months from now, and hold that "why didn't you tell me?!" against me. I just told him once, and I wont bring it up again while he's there. But their relationship is horrible, even before this. So I don't think he would appose to me telling someone with animal cruelty. My fiancee has two sisters that live with his mother, and I honestly don't see them cooperating with me to remove the animals, because they would never see them again(since they live with their mother). My fiancee and I have a mutual feeling about his mother, so that has not been a problem within our relationship. He really can't stand her, and knows that she has issues. She is one of the main reasons he chose to join the Marines, to get far away from her. I think I will call our local shelter and let them know about it anonymously. Do shelters handle animal cruelty? Or is that under another organization? I would never take MY furbabies to her house- no chance in hell. And I've already established with my fiancee about our future children having supervised visits with their grandmother, and ONLY when she is sober. He agreed, and understands the seriousness of the situation. I am just worried about her children and other animals. She needs to be in the loony bin.
Glad to hear you are prepared to put distance between you, your pets and future children and this nut case! So many issues here are scary, cruelty to animals and children, alcohol abuse, all tied to psychopathic behavoir. Such a person should definitely not have access to guns. Is there a city/county ordinance in her area making it illegal to discharge firearms? Maybe that could be a basis of an anonomous complaint. She is a danger to society in my opinion and needs to be stopped. I am as concerned for children living in the house as I am for the pets. At least try to talk to police or authorities for some advice before someone else gets hurt.
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Thanks everybody for their help and advice! My fiancee and his mother don't have a good relationship AT ALL- even minus the fact she shot their dog. When he is home on leave, he *might* go see her once. But even that's a rare occasion. I told him about it while he was overseas, only because I didn't want him to find out 7 months from now, and hold that "why didn't you tell me?!" against me. I just told him once, and I wont bring it up again while he's there. But their relationship is horrible, even before this. So I don't think he would appose to me telling someone with animal cruelty. My fiancee has two sisters that live with his mother, and I honestly don't see them cooperating with me to remove the animals, because they would never see them again(since they live with their mother). My fiancee and I have a mutual feeling about his mother, so that has not been a problem within our relationship. He really can't stand her, and knows that she has issues. She is one of the main reasons he chose to join the Marines, to get far away from her. I think I will call our local shelter and let them know about it anonymously. Do shelters handle animal cruelty? Or is that under another organization? I would never take MY furbabies to her house- no chance in hell. And I've already established with my fiancee about our future children having supervised visits with their grandmother, and ONLY when she is sober. He agreed, and understands the seriousness of the situation. I am just worried about her children and other animals. She needs to be in the loony bin.

Oh geez, that too bad that the sisters won't help. It seems like if they love them, they'd want them out of harm's way.

I don't know who you report this to in your area. I wouldn't worry about testifying, since you didn't see anything anyway. Just tell whoever you talk to that there's a dog buried and it was shot. That should be evidence enough.

I wish you much luck.
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I honestly had to take a breather after reading your post. I shared your story with my husband and couldn't stop from crying. We are bot sick over this! You have to report this kind of behavior...it's beyond cruel!! Also, her daughter is 17 and she was standing there while her drunk mother started shooting another living breathing being???! That seems like child endangerment in a couple of ways!

I am very bothered by your thread.....

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If there's no office of the Humane Society or the ASPCA in your county, you could call the police - and you don't have to give your name. A shelter might refer you somewhere else, but it might be worth a try.

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They will ask you to testify I would do some online research and see if you can make an anonymous complaint (from a neighbor that heard the shots)
They'll only do that as a last resort if you don't want to testify. If they have enough evidence otherwise, they could possibly do this without your testimony.

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