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Old 03-26-2008, 08:42 AM   #1
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Default Few general questions and update about the dog that "found" me(Long)

I posted last week that I had a Yorkie that I was "given" that some people had found wandering around the desert.

The little guy was starving, matted and scared. He's not neutered. The lady who found him cleaned him up and fed him and then started looking for someone to take him. I said I would and would try to find his real owners. I have not been successful at that unfortunately. I would think that someone would be searching for him everywhere they could, but I've looked, called and emailed every ad for a lost male yorkie from the Los Angeles area or NV or AZ that I could find. Had a couple here in the LA area that were "maybes" but then when we realized the ears were different, they were ruled out.

He is such a sweet loving little dog. It just breaks my heart to think of him wandering around a strange place with nothing to eat and not knowing where to find anything, and being scared to go to sleep at night b/c he's so small and vulnerable.

Every day that he's here, he gets even better. He follows me everywhere. He's learned from Max the "proper Yorkie greeting" when I come home from anywhere~ race to the door like mad, jump up and down and yelp, run around in circles until you're picked up and then lick the lips all over til I put them down . He is sleeping better thru the night, he's fallen into the daily routine here and sleeps next to the chair in the office while I'm working. He and Max are playing together now in the house and out on the lawn. Last night he actually crawled up and slept right next to me (he'd been sleeping at the very end of the bed or he'd get up and sleep in the little bed I have next to our bed (which Max never uses) or he'd go into the office and just wander back and forth between the bedroom and the office. He has picked up a couple of toys but he's obviously never had toys to play with. He's not sure what to do with them and the squeaky ones that Max likes so much, scare him! He knows to "stay" pretty well, and he knows what "NO!" means. He doesn't really potty in the house but he DOES mark, and it's causing Max to start lifting his leg too (but I usually catch him and it goes right back down, LOL). He has had a couple of poop "accidents" in the house, but they were usually in the middle of the night, so it's not anything worse than what Max has done on occasion. I keep the doors open a lot of the day or am pretty conscientious about opening up the doors often for them to go out if they need/want to, and he seems to be at least, pretty well housetrained. Funny that the little guy will scratch on a door to get inside but not to go out (unless I'm outside and he's inside).

My husband is not pleased that he's here. I'm praying that with a little time (and the dog jumping up loving him) he'll fall in love with the dog, but dh is home only on the weekends, so it's hard. And if he had any idea how much he's been marking (I clean it up ASAP so he won't see it when he's home), and the fact that Max is picking up a bad habit, he would be MOST unhappy. He's already told me I can't keep him (which I told him that would be MY decision not his). My sister says she would take him, and I know she'd give him a good home, but she's really too busy for him....although I know if I asked her pointedly if she'd give him the time and attention he needs, she'd be honest with me. I would like to keep him just b/c he's so sweet and I think he's a good companion for Max.

So, I need some guidance here from you all, b/c so many people have such a lot more experience with dogs than I have had.

1. Regarding the marking in the house: Can you train them NOT to do that? I know that sometimes once they're neutered it will at least calm it down. Is that true, or have you had that experience? Is there anything I can do to at least quell it somewhat in the meantime? I am considering belly bands, but would love to be able to train him not to do it.

2. OR...is it an issue of having 2 males in the same house? I can see when they're outside, they just keep peeing over each other's wherever they just peed .

2. Since I have no idea about what shots he's ever had, what should I do about that? The main reason I ask is b/c I intend to have him neutered in the next few weeks, and I would imagine they have to be current on vaccinations to have that done. Which vaccinations/shots should he get?

I just need a little bit of support. My dh is very NON supportive in this and it makes me feel bad. But, he's kind of that way with ANY change in his environment until he sees that it's not going to cause him any angst.

This little guy was brought into my life for a reason and I can't ignore that or just give him away to "just anyone". I don't ever want anything bad to happen to him again and I never want him to be scared or cold or lonely or hungry.
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I sorry to tell you that the marking usually doesn't stop even if they are neutered after they are sexually mature, although it may get somewhat less. My daughters dog was 1 year when he was neutered and he did slow down some but belly bands are the answer to your problem. Unfortunely I have Chance here every day while my daughter works and hos marking started my neutered male Max to start doing the same. They both wear belly bands in the house with maxi pads or poise pads wich I change every 3 hours or so. It's not ideal but is much better then cleaning up pee all the time. Hope this helps
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You are a foster Mom whether you wanted to or not

Yorkies should have foster moms who know the Yorkie breed and you do, so that is great!

First thing a foster mom would do is keep the newbie away from your Yorkie until you take the newbie to a vet.

They are having peeing wars because they are male in the same house. Belly bands on both would help that.

Not knowing what toys are would indicate a puppy mill stud but could indicate a dog no one played with.

Being so quick to love you indicates he simply had bad owners. (or was stolen) A dog like him is looking for a human to love him and restore his trust in humans.

Husbands? Yeah, have that same issue. Join a local Yorkie rescue if there is one, as they can sometimes reimburse you for vet bills and food. Foster him and reenforce good Yorkie behavior while a new home is looked for. A Rescue could help with that.

Rescues always need fosters. Each new owner is cleared and checked out. I am a member of NCYorkie Rescue. Happy to answer any other questions.
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Old 03-26-2008, 09:00 AM   #4
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I sorry to tell you that the marking usually doesn't stop even if they are neutered after they are sexually mature, although it may get somewhat less. My daughters dog was 1 year when he was neutered and he did slow down some but belly bands are the answer to your problem. Unfortunely I have Chance here every day while my daughter works and hos marking started my neutered male Max to start doing the same. They both wear belly bands in the house with maxi pads or poise pads wich I change every 3 hours or so. It's not ideal but is much better then cleaning up pee all the time. Hope this helps

UGH . I had that feeling....do you think if I get the new dog belly banded now, my Max won't do it? He's not really in the habit of marking anywhere other than when we go outside for walks (at least, not YET). He was neutered when he was a puppy.

For sure dh will insist on me rehoming this guy if he sees Max picking up bad habits (b/c doncha know...Max is PERFECT , LOL).


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I sorry to tell you that the marking usually doesn't stop even if they are neutered after they are sexually mature, although it may get somewhat less. My daughters dog was 1 year when he was neutered and he did slow down some but belly bands are the answer to your problem. Unfortunely I have Chance here every day while my daughter works and hos marking started my neutered male Max to start doing the same. They both wear belly bands in the house with maxi pads or poise pads wich I change every 3 hours or so. It's not ideal but is much better then cleaning up pee all the time. Hope this helps
Ditto for the marking that does not stop. Mine if 4 1/2 and while I've tried and tried to make him stop (which he will not do when I'm around) but the minute he's left on his own he'll start again . i'm at the point where I just grin and bare it . I've never seen any belly bands - where can you purchase them. They sound like they just might be the item that I need.
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Bless you for taking him in. Yes - THERE IS A REASON FOR THIS....

I have to admit after reading your story, I don't think you will find his 'owners' - so he may be meant to be apart of your family, which is probably going to be a good thing

I think you need to get him to the Vet - for shots and neutering. This really is the BEST thing for him.

Yes neutering will help with the Marking. But in the meantime - BELLY BANDS and MAXI PADS - This will catch any pee from marking, and Max won't be able to follow b/c he won't be smelling the pee that the new one tried to mark. (Belly bands can be only a temp solution until he is neutered and he gets used to your house and potty routine, etc....)
But with the use of belly bands the new one will soon realize that his "marking" attempts are NOT WORKING - and slowly they will stop - along with the neutering.

I wish you the Best of Luck - He sure is lucky to have found you
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That's so sweet of you to take care of him.
My first thought is how long has he been with you?
I would not neuter until you are SURE that the owners won't appear because that wouldn't be fair if they didn't want him to be.
Maybe they just dumped him but there is a small chance that they just haven't found him yet, so I'd wait.
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You are a foster Mom whether you wanted to or not

Yorkies should have foster moms who know the Yorkie breed and you do, so that is great!

First thing a foster mom would do is keep the newbie away from your Yorkie until you take the newbie to a vet.

They are having peeing wars because they are male in the same house. Belly bands on both would help that.

Not knowing what toys are would indicate a puppy mill stud but could indicate a dog no one played with.

Being so quick to love you indicates he simply had bad owners. (or was stolen) A dog like him is looking for a human to love him and restore his trust in humans.

Husbands? Yeah, have that same issue. Join a local Yorkie rescue if there is one, as they can sometimes reimburse you for vet bills and food. Foster him and reenforce good Yorkie behavior while a new home is looked for. A Rescue could help with that.

Rescues always need fosters. Each new owner is cleared and checked out. I am a member of NCYorkie Rescue. Happy to answer any other questions.

Oh BLESS YOU! I just feel so alone in this and I want the very best for this sweet guy. I'm in love with him already. And if I were to find a new home for him, I just want to be absolutely sure he will get the love and care he deserves! And that's why I am concerned about the marking issue; that if I found him a home, the people might find that objectionable enough to rehome him AGAIN, and I don't want him to be a 'disposeable' dog!

He and my dog have already been around each other since he came here, so it's too late for that....what should I do?

Also...I had another question about his being purebred. It makes absolutely NO difference to me. He sure looks like he is to me, but I'm no expert. His ears ..if you look at the ear itself, not the hair; are really dark inside....do you think that is a sign that he's not purebred? Max's ears are pinky/tan colored.
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Madison sure is a cutie! I fell in love with Yorkies by a male Yorkie who is now in LA. He hadn't been taught anything because he was so spoiled
He had one ear up and one ear down and was obsessed with tennis balls.

I would find out what Madison knows and if there is a favorite toy.... does he know how to fetch and dig?

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That's so sweet of you to take care of him.
My first thought is how long has he been with you?
I would not neuter until you are SURE that the owners won't appear because that wouldn't be fair if they didn't want him to be.
Maybe they just dumped him but there is a small chance that they just haven't found him yet, so I'd wait.
Yes, that's what I was thinking too...I don't want to just up and cut his cajones off when he's really NOT my dog. He's been here now for almost a week; since last Thursday.

How long would you wait? I was thinking 2 weeks, but maybe that's not fair. I just know how much my dh is going to be pressing me about what I'm going to do.

It really hurts my heart to think someone might have dumped such a wonderful little guy to fend for himself . It makes me cry everytime I think about it.
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Congrats on your new addition!! He's a cutie and you are both so lucky you found each other. :^)

I'm sure your vet can best advise you what shots Madison may need since he's a "rescue". Do you know what age he may be or if he has a chip?

As for hubby, just remind him that these are your pets that you are taking responsibility for and you are taking care of them. He'll most likely come around eventually.

Good luck with your new son. :^)
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He looks pure to me - really cute. His ears just may be darker in color, or he may have what they call Leather Ear. It's not contagious, but they need to be cleaned with alcohol and use Lotrimine 1% everyday until they clear up. But a Vet would know if he has leather ear.

Back to marking. I would really use belly bands for now. If you plan on neutering him, start to make that appt. and it should help a bit with the marking, but you may need to use belly bands here and there too.

I fostered a 7 yo male - not neutered. He was marking my house like crazy. I put the belly band and maxi pads on and after a day or two, his 'attempts' to mark were waaaaaayyyyyy less. He then decided he was going to rub his body and roll around on everything to mark his scent - soooooo funny!
Anyway, I only had him for 2 weeks and he went back to his owner. I just spoke with her and it's been since the summer that I had him, but he has been neutered and she told me he doesn't mark in the house anymore. She said only a few times he had an accident b/c she didn't take him out in time, but other than that he's really good!

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Madison sure is a cutie! I fell in love with Yorkies by a male Yorkie who is now in LA. He hadn't been taught anything because he was so spoiled
He had one ear up and one ear down and was obsessed with tennis balls.

I would find out what Madison knows and if there is a favorite toy.... does he know how to fetch and dig?

Pssst! Between you and me, most fosters end up adopting their furkids!
Oh my gosh...funny you should ask that! I have been giving them marrow bones that I take all the marrow out of for them to chew on....last night, Max was playing with his, and I went looking for Madison's....could NOT find it ANYWHERE. I thought maybe he took it outside and looked for it all over the lawn and in the sandy areas b/c the other day, he'd brought one in that was covered in sand and I had to throw it away.
This morning I saw him digging in the sand and was about ready to tell him not to do that, but all of a sudden, he came up with the marrow bone, LOL! It was so cute...Max has NEVER buried anything and then gone to dig it up....I got such a kick out of it. Of course, I had to toss that bone too, poor Madison! But I'll get them new ones later today!
He seems to really learn pretty quickly when Max does something.

I would definitely want to keep him to tell you the truth. It's just that leg lifting thing and having Max do it too....I hate to have Max wearing a belly band b/c he's never had to before.....I'm new to this, so it's a little scary to me bringing in a new dog when Max just turned 3 and he's used to being the only dog and we're used to that too. Although, I had been thinking of getting Max a little girl playmate. He seems ok with it but it's an adjustment for all of us! I didnt' realize how much it would be, but I'm learning! I guess I shouldn't be so critical of dh not being more accepting; I'm the one who's here all the time, but you just wish your partner would be more compassionate .
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He is georgous. It's so hard to believe someone would just dump a boy so precious You are wonderful for taking him in.
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About the marking: He can be trained to stop that. Until he gets used to being there and your Yorkie also being there, they will do it. When they get comfortable with one another it would stop if you train them that it is NOT ALLOWED in YOUR house. It is your house, not theirs..........get some good smell eraser and use it where they have marked. Also develop a sound, a noise a certain word that means NO to that behavior and say it loudly each time you catch them marking. They will learn that it is not allowed.

You may want to buy one of those blacklight contraptions that help you find urine in the home so you can treat those areas with the smell eraser. Be sure that they will probably do it behind your back for awhile, because they are Yorkies and they are smart. It will be a battle of wills between you and them, but they can be taught to not do it inside your house.
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