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pepper2004 · 10-23-2007, 03:19 AM

Our breeder said that both puppies where pee pee pad train. I've tried so hard to keep them on a schedule. At first I was free feeding but stopped that. They now have 3 meals a day as we do. That has help some. They keep their crate clean now. I got up at six this morning and took them both outside because I heard them whining. Noah did fine. He got a treat. Rickey on the other hand just lay there watching us. Noah is 6 months and Rickey is almost 6 months.
They are both very smart. They can sit, shake, rollover, stay.....but the potty is becoming a big issue around here. My husband is doing the grumbling. But he will not help me train them. I feel if he would take one outside and I took the other we might have success. Instead he goes and buys me a $400 carpet steam cleaner. He said they are my dogs and that I can train them.

I've never had two dogs so hard to potty train. Somehow I am not making a conection in Rickey's head. Any advice would be appreciated. Hubby is threating to sell one of my babies if I don't get them train soon. That would break my heart.

Pepper

myteddybear · 10-23-2007, 05:10 AM

I'm sorry your hubby is being that way. They are still young and it can take quite a while to train a Yorkie to potty where he should. I would use belly bands While you are training, (I assume they are boys) it will help save your house and your sanity from the complaining hubby while they learn. You have to be persistant. If when you take them out one doesn't do anything then as soon as the other one does his bussiness take him back in and stay out with the other for however long it takes for him to do it. When each one does his bussiness you have to make a bug deal out of it and give the greatest treat ever. They will eventually have a light that flips on and just as if magic they will all of a sudden get it!

Oh, as a last thought, if they have peed on the carpet you need to get a good enzymatic cleaner and clean it up well or they will keep going where they smell it.

Good luck!

mona4god1 · 10-23-2007, 05:44 AM

I too am having a BIG problem with my 23 month old yorkie. About three months ago she (Munchkin) would just peep and run to her room and into her crate. She even looks at us peeps and run's.
She is or was pad trained complete. I went to three complete classes, pay good money to train her... Now what?
I think I may have messed her up, but don't know how or what to do \we are at wit's end with her. I started walking her w/ us as we would walk. She would peep over other doggie. Is that the problems? I need help....NOW

Ladylavender · 10-23-2007, 06:35 AM

It would make things easier if your husband were more cooperative, but since he is not, this is my recommendation.

When you take them out of the crate, take them out to potty immediately, just like you did. I would bring both puppies back in and put the one that did not potty back in the crate. after about 5-10 mins take him back out to potty again. Keep this up until he potties outside. In the meantime, go about the business of playing and feeding with the other one.

Use really really good treats for potty. This is the only treat they get to go potty outside. Use liverwurst, chicken, hotdog (use very small pieces) or something really good like that. After a while they will beg to out just to get the treat. But no treat until potty.

You are going to have to keep them contained in one room only until they are fully housebroken. this room MUST be the room you are in. You cannot take your eyes off them for a second, as long as they are loose.

When you cannot watch them, they go outside to potty again and back in the crate, until your time is free again. You need to increase the time they are in the crate from 1,2, 3, 4 hours, so they learn to hold it. But this must be done over a period of time.

If your husband could help you, this would be easier, as you would not be spending 24/7 just working on their potty training. Your are going to have to do nothing but focus on the potty training thing until they get it. If that means husband has to fend for himself, so be it. He can cook the meals, do the laundry, clean the house etc.

Just tell him you are going about the business of getting them trained, just like he wants them to be. Sacrifices must be made, but it will be temporary, but it could take a couple of months of rigorous surveillance of the puppies until that happens.

Ladylavender · 10-23-2007, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mona4god1

I too am having a BIG problem with my 23 month old yorkie. About three months ago she (Munchkin) would just peep and run to her room and into her crate. She even looks at us peeps and run's.
She is or was pad trained complete. I went to three complete classes, pay good money to train her... Now what?
I think I may have messed her up, but don't know how or what to do \we are at wit's end with her. I started walking her w/ us as we would walk. She would peep over other doggie. Is that the problems? I need help....NOW

I would keep this one tethered to you. This way you can catch her immediately as she is going. You need to swoop her up and carry her outside and tell her "go potty".

Don't punish her for going in the house, just pick her up and make her finish her business outside.

Keep her tethered to you at all time and DO NOT let her have free range of your home. When you do this you are going to have more control over her.

Give her a good treat for going potty outside. But give it to her outside right after she goes, not in the house after the fact.

Morkie4 · 10-23-2007, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladylavender

It would make things easier if your husband were more cooperative, but since he is not, this is my recommendation.

When you take them out of the crate, take them out to potty immediately, just like you did. I would bring both puppies back in and put the one that did not potty back in the crate. after about 5-10 mins take him back out to potty again. Keep this up until he potties outside. In the meantime, go about the business of playing and feeding with the other one.

Use really really good treats for potty. This is the only treat they get to go potty outside. Use liverwurst, chicken, hotdog (use very small pieces) or something really good like that. After a while they will beg to out just to get the treat. But no treat until potty. You are going to have to keep them contained in one room only until they are fully housebroken. this room MUST be the room you are in. You cannot take your eyes off them for a second, as long as they are loose.

When you cannot watch them, they go outside to potty again and back in the crate, until your time is free again. You need to increase the time they are in the crate from 1,2, 3, 4 hours, so they learn to hold it. But this must be done over a period of time.

If your husband could help you, this would be easier, as you would not be spending 24/7 just working on their potty training. Your are going to have to do nothing but focus on the potty training thing until they get it. If that means husband has to fend for himself, so be it. He can cook the meals, do the laundry, clean the house etc.

Just tell him you are going about the business of getting them trained, just like he wants them to be. Sacrifices must be made, but it will be temporary, but it could take a couple of months of rigorous surveillance of the puppies until that happens.

GREAT ADVICE.........I can only add that it takes lots of invested time, patience and effort to get them 100% trained. Once they get it though, it is wonderful. I always say you have to almost "become a dog" during the potty training period. And NEVER take your eyes off of them for one second.......that is where the investing of time comes in. Hope you manage to get them trained.

momof4CA · 10-23-2007, 08:06 AM

Everyone has given you great advice here.

These are all things that I did with my little guy. I spent a week locked in the family room with my little one. I never let him out of my sight.

How do you have them sleeping at night? Do they have seperate crates?

I would suggest taking them potty one at a time. I would take out the one that seems to understand the potty training first and put him/her back inside. Then leash the other puppy and take him/her outside to potty. By being on the leash, you send a message that you are not playing around. If he/she doesn't go potty after a few minutes, then he/she goes right back into their crate. Keep doing this until he/she goes. Don't give him/her any other choose, but to go potty outside.

pepper2004 · 10-23-2007, 04:12 PM

Thank you all for the much needed advice! Noah is really catching on to "going outside". Rickey on the other hand hasn't. I'm going to use all the advice you all have given me. I have a medium size crate. I've been letting them both sleep in it. Or put them in it when I have to go some place.

I have Rickey teetered to my desk leg so he is right in my sight now at all times.
I was letting them have full run of the house but not anymore.

One thing I am proud of is, I have took away their food and water before seven P.M. for the last two nights and the crate has been clean both mornings.

Let me make sure I have this right. If Rickey goes out to potty and doesn't I am suppose to put him back into the crate until I feel he needs to go out again? I'm a bit confused on the crate training as you can tell.

Thank you again for all your advice! BTW hubby cooked his on supper tonight.

I told him I was much to busy training the boys.

momof4CA · 10-23-2007, 04:49 PM

Yes! If he doesn't go potty in the morning put him back in he's crate. Then take him out again every fifteen minutes until he goes. Once he goes he can be out.

Keep both dogs with you at all times. You do not want to give them the opportunity to go in the house.

Dog naturally do not want to go potty in their crate. So use this to your advantage.

I gated off my family room in the begining and we stayed in there, literally. Once my Leo had a couple of 'accident free' day. I expanded his area into the kitchen. I continued this way until he had access to the whole downstairs. It did take a lot of time! But, I figured it was better to give up a few weeks of house cleaning, then to have a dog with potty troubles.

Make sure you thank your DH for understanding how important this is.

soccbydo · 10-23-2007, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pepper2004

Our breeder said that both puppies where pee pee pad train. I've tried so hard to keep them on a schedule. At first I was free feeding but stopped that. They now have 3 meals a day as we do. That has help some. They keep their crate clean now. I got up at six this morning and took them both outside because I heard them whining. Noah did fine. He got a treat. Rickey on the other hand just lay there watching us. Noah is 6 months and Rickey is almost 6 months.
They are both very smart. They can sit, shake, rollover, stay.....but the potty is becoming a big issue around here. My husband is doing the grumbling. But he will not help me train them. I feel if he would take one outside and I took the other we might have success. Instead he goes and buys me a $400 carpet steam cleaner. He said they are my dogs and that I can train them.

I've never had two dogs so hard to potty train. Somehow I am not making a conection in Rickey's head. Any advice would be appreciated. Hubby is threating to sell one of my babies if I don't get them train soon. That would break my heart.

Pepper

LOL, are you sure your husband is not my husband? That is EXACTLY what my husband says. Its my dog

and I must train them. My pom is very good at standing at the door or scratching it to go out, but with the arrival of the new 5 months old Yorkie, all hell is breaking loose around here. This is what I have been doing. Timing them and writing down everything they do wee, poo or not wee or poo at a certain hour that they are taken out. Pom is good tho, he usually goes once or twice a day as he is a picky and little eater. Believe me, I understand your stance. I am also frustrated and feel worn out. I cant tell when Yorkie wants to go and sometimes I cant see that he is dumping right before my eyes as his hair is long and he appears to be sitting when in fact, he is dumping

. He came to me with NO training whatsoever and I am trying to enforce some

. I have decided to contain them to washroom and one small room room which I am in now with the computer. All other areas are forbidden after the free for all peeing and dumping that took place two nights ago

10-23-2007, 03:19 AM	#1
pepper2004 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 123	Discouraged...Potty Issue Our breeder said that both puppies where pee pee pad train. I've tried so hard to keep them on a schedule. At first I was free feeding but stopped that. They now have 3 meals a day as we do. That has help some. They keep their crate clean now. I got up at six this morning and took them both outside because I heard them whining. Noah did fine. He got a treat. Rickey on the other hand just lay there watching us. Noah is 6 months and Rickey is almost 6 months. They are both very smart. They can sit, shake, rollover, stay.....but the potty is becoming a big issue around here. My husband is doing the grumbling. But he will not help me train them. I feel if he would take one outside and I took the other we might have success. Instead he goes and buys me a $400 carpet steam cleaner. He said they are my dogs and that I can train them. I've never had two dogs so hard to potty train. Somehow I am not making a conection in Rickey's head. Any advice would be appreciated. Hubby is threating to sell one of my babies if I don't get them train soon. That would break my heart. Pepper Last edited by pepper2004; 10-23-2007 at 03:22 AM.

10-23-2007, 05:10 AM	#2
myteddybear Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cambridgeshire, England Posts: 1,208	I'm sorry your hubby is being that way. They are still young and it can take quite a while to train a Yorkie to potty where he should. I would use belly bands While you are training, (I assume they are boys) it will help save your house and your sanity from the complaining hubby while they learn. You have to be persistant. If when you take them out one doesn't do anything then as soon as the other one does his bussiness take him back in and stay out with the other for however long it takes for him to do it. When each one does his bussiness you have to make a bug deal out of it and give the greatest treat ever. They will eventually have a light that flips on and just as if magic they will all of a sudden get it! Oh, as a last thought, if they have peed on the carpet you need to get a good enzymatic cleaner and clean it up well or they will keep going where they smell it. Good luck! __________________ Please help save Lennox! http://www.savelennox.co.uk/ Let your voice be heard so Lennox can go home

10-23-2007, 06:35 AM	#4
Ladylavender YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN Posts: 733	It would make things easier if your husband were more cooperative, but since he is not, this is my recommendation. When you take them out of the crate, take them out to potty immediately, just like you did. I would bring both puppies back in and put the one that did not potty back in the crate. after about 5-10 mins take him back out to potty again. Keep this up until he potties outside. In the meantime, go about the business of playing and feeding with the other one. Use really really good treats for potty. This is the only treat they get to go potty outside. Use liverwurst, chicken, hotdog (use very small pieces) or something really good like that. After a while they will beg to out just to get the treat. But no treat until potty. You are going to have to keep them contained in one room only until they are fully housebroken. this room MUST be the room you are in. You cannot take your eyes off them for a second, as long as they are loose. When you cannot watch them, they go outside to potty again and back in the crate, until your time is free again. You need to increase the time they are in the crate from 1,2, 3, 4 hours, so they learn to hold it. But this must be done over a period of time. If your husband could help you, this would be easier, as you would not be spending 24/7 just working on their potty training. Your are going to have to do nothing but focus on the potty training thing until they get it. If that means husband has to fend for himself, so be it. He can cook the meals, do the laundry, clean the house etc. Just tell him you are going about the business of getting them trained, just like he wants them to be. Sacrifices must be made, but it will be temporary, but it could take a couple of months of rigorous surveillance of the puppies until that happens. __________________ Sheila and Sweet Millie Sage and Jasmine Rose

10-23-2007, 05:44 AM	#3
mona4god1 YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PA Posts: 2	mona4god1 I too am having a BIG problem with my 23 month old yorkie. About three months ago she (Munchkin) would just peep and run to her room and into her crate. She even looks at us peeps and run's. She is or was pad trained complete. I went to three complete classes, pay good money to train her... Now what? I think I may have messed her up, but don't know how or what to do \we are at wit's end with her. I started walking her w/ us as we would walk. She would peep over other doggie. Is that the problems? I need help....NOW

10-23-2007, 08:06 AM	#7
momof4CA YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bay area, CA Posts: 345	Everyone has given you great advice here. These are all things that I did with my little guy. I spent a week locked in the family room with my little one. I never let him out of my sight. How do you have them sleeping at night? Do they have seperate crates? I would suggest taking them potty one at a time. I would take out the one that seems to understand the potty training first and put him/her back inside. Then leash the other puppy and take him/her outside to potty. By being on the leash, you send a message that you are not playing around. If he/she doesn't go potty after a few minutes, then he/she goes right back into their crate. Keep doing this until he/she goes. Don't give him/her any other choose, but to go potty outside.

10-23-2007, 04:12 PM	#8
pepper2004 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 123	Thank you all for the much needed advice! Noah is really catching on to "going outside". Rickey on the other hand hasn't. I'm going to use all the advice you all have given me. I have a medium size crate. I've been letting them both sleep in it. Or put them in it when I have to go some place. I have Rickey teetered to my desk leg so he is right in my sight now at all times. I was letting them have full run of the house but not anymore. One thing I am proud of is, I have took away their food and water before seven P.M. for the last two nights and the crate has been clean both mornings. Let me make sure I have this right. If Rickey goes out to potty and doesn't I am suppose to put him back into the crate until I feel he needs to go out again? I'm a bit confused on the crate training as you can tell. Thank you again for all your advice! BTW hubby cooked his on supper tonight. I told him I was much to busy training the boys.

10-23-2007, 04:49 PM	#9
momof4CA YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bay area, CA Posts: 345	Yes! If he doesn't go potty in the morning put him back in he's crate. Then take him out again every fifteen minutes until he goes. Once he goes he can be out. Keep both dogs with you at all times. You do not want to give them the opportunity to go in the house. Dog naturally do not want to go potty in their crate. So use this to your advantage. I gated off my family room in the begining and we stayed in there, literally. Once my Leo had a couple of 'accident free' day. I expanded his area into the kitchen. I continued this way until he had access to the whole downstairs. It did take a lot of time! But, I figured it was better to give up a few weeks of house cleaning, then to have a dog with potty troubles. Make sure you thank your DH for understanding how important this is.