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Old 01-29-2019, 07:07 AM   #1
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We brough our new puppy home on Saturday so he's only been here about 3 days now. For the most part he's great. Loves to play, loves to snuggle, ect.

However when we put him away while we're not activity engaging with him he goes nuts. Whines, cries, howls, screams, yells, ect. I have never encountered a puppy who is this bad.

We do have him in our master bathroom with the door open and a babygate across the door. He has his food/water, potty pad, toys, doggie bed. But anytime we put him in there with the gate closed so we can leave or eat dinner or what, it's constant banging on the gate, screaming, howls, ect.

I know we're not supposed to acknowledge it so he doesn't learn that doing that behavior gets a response. So we've let him go at it. Sometimes he stops after a bit but it's been getting longer and longer until he does.

Last night we played and played with him hard hoping to tucker him out so he would just fall asleep and be done. Even that didn't work, He literally did it for over 2 hours at which point my husband, who was getting very pissed at this point, took him out and put him in bed with us.
I know, big no no, but we had to work and have already gotten some...not complaints, yet from the neighbors, but comments, where you can tell they aren't happy about the noise since we're in a condo. I imagine it won't be far until we actually receive a complaint if he doesn't stop.
Husband even said maybe this isn't a good idea having him for a dog right now.

I know he's a puppy and we're trying to be patient but it cannot go on this way. We just took him to the vet and he is in perfect health so it's not a physical issue. She even commented on how well behaved he is as he was just sitting on our laps most of the time except for the exam when he was a happy go lucky puppy.

I'm going to get one of those heartbeat toys and give him an old shirt that I wore last two nights but if it's in this bed or close by and he's at the gate crying and banging I don't know how that will work. But he cannot keep this up.
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:33 AM   #2
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How old is he? He would be better if he could see you when he is being contained. You would be better off setting up a play pen in your main area for when you are eating dinner and such. Then use a crate at night where he can see you in bed. I pup was separated from his mom to early and he separation anxiety so bad that just being in the bathroom with me was not enough and he would get in the shower with me. He eventually got better but he follows me around everywhere. What your describing is pretty normal and not necessarily separation anxiety. With all of mine even in the crate at night there was crying and it took a week or two for them to get into the system. I donít want to come off as mean or anything but when you get a puppy or dog it should be yours forever even if it means orking through hard stuff. 3 days is not a long time for him to get used to everything and this really sounds like normal new puppy stuff.
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Sorry for the crazy post. Was just so frustrated and my stress level was about 15 out of 10 plus with the husband and neighbors it was a mess.

So good news. We already had a playpen ordered which came Monday. Spent Monday evening getting him used it it, playing in and around it.

Then yesterday I put him in there while I was sitting on the couch. He did whine for a few minutes but no freakouts and settled down just fine.
Then later in the evening husband and I put him in there since we had to go to a few stores. He went right now, no noise or anything.
We got back and were talking, moving around so he knew we were home but didn't go into the living room and he didn't make a sound and was fine.
So I think we're going to nix the bathroom plan and just keep him in the playpen when we're not home or engaging with him.

As far as the night time part, he slept with us again last night. The plan was to do that eventually anyway but once he was potty trained. But 2 nights in a row and no accidents. I get up 2, 3, 4 times a night so when I got up at 2am and again at 330am I woke him up to pee on his pad and took him back to bed where he went right back to sleep.
Then at 430am he woke up and started pacing around the bed so husband took him to the pad and he did his business so that's a relief. I'm sure there could be an accident but I think with me getting up and getting him up we should be okay and he can continue to sleep with us.

He really is getting the potty thing down. Went all day yesterday with no accidents and hit the pad (or close enough as his paws were on it but not his winkie) so we count that as a win.

It is normal puppy stuff I was wasn't prepared as I never had a puppy act that nuts before and husband had never had a dog every so he really wasn't prepared I guess even though I was telling him ahead of time that they are just like babies and don't know or understand things etc.

I think we'll be okay now...I know I am feeling much better.

Husband did stay to work from home today ( I worked from home monday and took yesterday off) so tomorrow will be his first home alone day. But we do have a rover person coming on thurs and fris to visit and socialize and let him stretch is paws and have a friend who'll be coming over on mons-weds for the same. Just for a month or two until he gets comfortable being home alone.
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Sorry for the crazy post. Was just so frustrated and my stress level was about 15 out of 10 plus with the husband and neighbors it was a mess.

So good news. We already had a playpen ordered which came Monday. Spent Monday evening getting him used it it, playing in and around it.

Then yesterday I put him in there while I was sitting on the couch. He did whine for a few minutes but no freakouts and settled down just fine.
Then later in the evening husband and I put him in there since we had to go to a few stores. He went right now, no noise or anything.
We got back and were talking, moving around so he knew we were home but didn't go into the living room and he didn't make a sound and was fine.
So I think we're going to nix the bathroom plan and just keep him in the playpen when we're not home or engaging with him.

As far as the night time part, he slept with us again last night. The plan was to do that eventually anyway but once he was potty trained. But 2 nights in a row and no accidents. I get up 2, 3, 4 times a night so when I got up at 2am and again at 330am I woke him up to pee on his pad and took him back to bed where he went right back to sleep.
Then at 430am he woke up and started pacing around the bed so husband took him to the pad and he did his business so that's a relief. I'm sure there could be an accident but I think with me getting up and getting him up we should be okay and he can continue to sleep with us.

He really is getting the potty thing down. Went all day yesterday with no accidents and hit the pad (or close enough as his paws were on it but not his winkie) so we count that as a win.

It is normal puppy stuff I was wasn't prepared as I never had a puppy act that nuts before and husband had never had a dog every so he really wasn't prepared I guess even though I was telling him ahead of time that they are just like babies and don't know or understand things etc.

I think we'll be okay now...I know I am feeling much better.

Husband did stay to work from home today ( I worked from home monday and took yesterday off) so tomorrow will be his first home alone day. But we do have a rover person coming on thurs and fris to visit and socialize and let him stretch is paws and have a friend who'll be coming over on mons-weds for the same. Just for a month or two until he gets comfortable being home alone.
Well glad things are going better. I’m a huge fan of crate training at night when they are puppies because if they ever go to a groomer, have to stay at the vet for surgery or in emergency’s then they are used to them and don’t freak out. I move a lot at night so I always felt safer having them in crates at night because they are so small. How old is he and what’s his name? I remember my first yorkie puppy and I didn’t know any of what I know now and didn’t have her crate where she could see me and she cried so much at night that I was soooo sleep deprived I pulled her crate in the living room and started crying saying I couldn’t do this and there she was licking my tears. Needles to say she is now almost 12 and still with me lol.
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Dogs just want to be by their owners. He would be in the bed by me. Sounds like a very lovable little pup!
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Puppies are prone to get separation anxiety after going to a new house, so you should ease his fear and help him to build confidence and trust by frequent petting, training, and daily walks that help him get familiar to the nearby environment. However, sleeping with your pup at night could increase his separation anxiety. You could install a baby gate at your room, so he can watch you through the door.
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Puppies are prone to get separation anxiety after going to a new house, so you should ease his fear and help him to build confidence and trust by frequent petting, training, and daily walks that help him get familiar to the nearby environment. However, sleeping with your pup at night could increase his separation anxiety. You could install a baby gate at your room, so he can watch you through the door.
Most pups are only prone to separation anxiety if taken from their mom to early. Itís really not a normal thing but what this person was posting was pretty normal for a puppy.
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I just went through what you are going through, so I totally get it!! My puppy will be 6 months next week. We crate him when we leave the house and the biggest lesson I learned was to cover the crate when we leave. Not fully so he can see out a little. He seems to like that it is dark and den-like. We never leave him in there more than three hours though. I work from home so he has free reign while I am working. He will go into his crate to sleep while I am working, so he is not afraid of it. Our puppy also sleeps in our bed. At the beginning he would wake us up when he wanted to go potty. Now he sleeps through the night just fine. The only time he had an accident in our bed was when he was sick with some GI issues. We then put a belly band around him until we were confident he was better.
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I realize this original post is old, but what is described is my exact situation. Living in an apartment with a 9 week old puppy that is extremely loud and has a fit in both her play pen and her crate. I cannot let her do it because my complex does not normally allow dogs, but she is an ESA, so she is an exception, but they cannotcreate excess noise or else. I live on the top floor with no neighbors on either side. But we have neighbors below us that have resorted to knocking on their ceiling whenever Coco whines. And this is after just a few minutes of it🙄.

I put her in her playpen to cook dinner last night and she immediately started to whine. 5 minutes later, the knocking begin. It's so frustrating because I can't properly train her with this type of scrutiny nor can I move. I have essentially been her prisoner for nearly 3 weeks, but I desperately need a plan for when no one is home for stretches. Can't afford a dog sitter. My previous Yorkies LOVED their playpens and considered it her safe place. Coco seems to think that being in either confined area is pure hell. And keeping her in her playpen at night is definitely not an option at this point since I will probably get evicted from all the complaints that will flood the rental office. I need a plan, STAT!!!
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I have never crated or confined a puppy with all that I have had while I was home, I confined them to a small area while I was at work, when I was home they were out but in the area I was in so they could be watched, so I am not an expert on crates or play pens. However there are members that do use them. Is it possible to have the playpen in the room you are in, if they can see you this will usually quiet them down. It is when they cannot see you they start whining and howling.
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I realize this original post is old, but what is described is my exact situation. Living in an apartment with a 9 week old puppy that is extremely loud and has a fit in both her play pen and her crate. I cannot let her do it because my complex does not normally allow dogs, but she is an ESA, so she is an exception, but they cannotcreate excess noise or else. I live on the top floor with no neighbors on either side. But we have neighbors below us that have resorted to knocking on their ceiling whenever Coco whines. And this is after just a few minutes of it🙄.

I put her in her playpen to cook dinner last night and she immediately started to whine. 5 minutes later, the knocking begin. It's so frustrating because I can't properly train her with this type of scrutiny nor can I move. I have essentially been her prisoner for nearly 3 weeks, but I desperately need a plan for when no one is home for stretches. Can't afford a dog sitter. My previous Yorkies LOVED their playpens and considered it her safe place. Coco seems to think that being in either confined area is pure hell. And keeping her in her playpen at night is definitely not an option at this point since I will probably get evicted from all the complaints that will flood the rental office. I need a plan, STAT!!!
She was taken from her mom to soon so she is definitely more likely to have separation anxiety. Not letting her be able to cry it out is difficult. When you put her in the pen make sure she can see you. Maybe make a little gift basket for the neighbors below and take it to them an explain you have a new puppy and are trying to train her and that you are so sorry for the noise. They might deal with it a little better then.
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She was taken from her mom to soon so she is definitely more likely to have separation anxiety. Not letting her be able to cry it out is difficult. When you put her in the pen make sure she can see you. Maybe make a little gift basket for the neighbors below and take it to them an explain you have a new puppy and are trying to train her and that you are so sorry for the noise. They might deal with it a little better then.
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She was taken from her mom to soon so she is definitely more likely to have separation anxiety. Not letting her be able to cry it out is difficult. When you put her in the pen make sure she can see you. Maybe make a little gift basket for the neighbors below and take it to them an explain you have a new puppy and are trying to train her and that you are so sorry for the noise. They might deal with it a little better then.
Ditto...great idea. You might also consider taking her with when you go. We all know how adorable they are when they are babies. Maybe in a "no pet" building she might become the unofficial mascot who is appreciated by those who cannot share puppylove!
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Ditto...great idea. You might also consider taking her with when you go. We all know how adorable they are when they are babies. Maybe in a "no pet" building she might become the unofficial mascot who is appreciated by those who cannot share puppylove!
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Great idea to give a gift basket to the downstairs neighbors. In regards to her seeing me while in her playpen, it's weird because she actually wails louder when she can see me like "Let me the hell out of here Mom!" I take her with me when I do school runs, but taking her to work may prove to be difficult. I am in pharmaceutical sales, so I am suppose to be in and out of doctors offices all day. Until she has had all of her shots, I just don't feel comfortable taking her in the field with me just yet. She is an ESA, so I may not get much push back, but she is not an official service dog, so I may not be able to take her all the time. I had to go to a work lunch today in about a town 40 minutes away. My daughters boyfriend stepped in and dog sat, but I told him to leave her in her playpen and see how long she wails for. I was gone for about 2 1/2 hours and he said she cried for "a long time." No idea what a long time is to a 20 year old kid, but if it was longer than 5 minutes, that's long enough. Not as concerned during the day about the noise because most people are at work. Not sure about the neighbors downstairs, and if they are home during the day, but it doesn't really matter at this point. She also got VERY aggressive tonight and I had to calm her down a bit because she was really hurting me. She just ignores the word no no matter what its attached to, like, "no biting." Or "Ouch." It's like she is spurred on to bite harder or her get more crazy. I have had many dogs theoughout my life and I have never seen anything like this!
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