I need some help on separation anxiety quickly

[matese]

Ok so lets back up here for a moment. It is advised a puppy stays with it's mom and litter mates until they are 13 weeks old. In this time the mom teaches her babies many things, one being bite inhibition, the litter mates play a big part in this teaching process also, they are taught when biting is to hard by mom and litter mates. Being taken away from mom and litter mates can cause anxiety in some pups.

So lets take it from here, your baby is 10 weeks old, she was taken from mom to early thus the hard biting, and separation anxiety. Now you have to take on the roll of yorkie mom and teach her when biting is to hard. Always have a toy handy when she gets crazy, out of control and biting, give her the toy to bite.

Keep in mind she is only alive only 70 days, she wasn't born with knowledge, this world is new and exciting and she is a wild thing that now has to be taught how to be civilized, the mom would have taught her that, also the breeder would have started pad training the puppies. Because the breeder didn't want the extra work she sells the puppies to soon. Now you have to be the teacher. You must have a lot of patience with the puppy praising and high value treats when she does what you want, no yelling, hollering when she does something wrong, but do correct her in a positive way.

You cannot take her to work with you until she has had all of her vaccines. To be a ESA you need a letter from a doctor or psychiatrist, you should keep a copy of this letter on you in case you are asked for proof. You cannot just say the dog is a ESA. I am sure you needed something to show your housing the dog is ESA if no dogs are permitted.

The dog also has to be properly trained to behave under all circumstances and conditions around her, in other words, she has to be a good fur citizen.
You cannot compare her with other dogs or other yorkies you may had had, they are not clones, each have their own personalities, no two are alike personality wise.

So, you have a lot of work before you, work on one issue at a time, she is to young to have a lot of bad issues corrected piled on her at one time. Terriers have a short concentration span, work with her no longer then 5 to 7 minutes, after 7 minutes they are no longer focused on you or training.

[Mike_and_Me]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

She was taken from her mom to soon so she is definitely more likely to have separation anxiety. Not letting her be able to cry it out is difficult. When you put her in the pen make sure she can see you. Maybe make a little gift basket for the neighbors below and take it to them an explain you have a new puppy and are trying to train her and that you are so sorry for the noise. They might deal with it a little better then.

Originally Posted by matese

So lets take it from here, your baby is 10 weeks old, she was taken from mom to early thus the hard biting, and separation anxiety. Now you have to take on the roll of yorkie mom and teach her when biting is to hard. Always have a toy handy when she gets crazy, out of control and biting, give her the toy to bite. [/LEFT]

You've already got great advice here, I just want to add that as my Mike was taken from litter way too early, you really must teach her the bite inhibition and help her with separation anxiety. For biting - no matter if she bites hard or not make a loud OUCH noise like you've been really hurt every time and redirect to an appropriate chew toy. If you do it consistently she will learn quickly.

For separation anxiety - after a YEAR of nothing working we did two weeks of crate training, starting with as low as 10 seconds in the crate with a door closed and me walking out of the apartment, working in short sessions, not allowing him to panic or get anxious, lots or treats, lots of praise, extending the time a little every time (a first from 10 sec to 15, then to 30 etc etc). It might sound like a lot of work, but after two weeks Mike was able to stay in the crate for up to 3 hr no problem, now he just sleeps in there. For a year he was crying, whining, barking and howling the entire time I was out, so that was such a big relief. I don't have a neighbour problem here but knowing he was distressed and scared was breaking my heart every time. Your girl is very young and her attention spam is very short. Try bringing her with you whenever you can and make sure her time in the crate if fun and safe. If she is anxious like my Mike - you can also cover the sides of the crate with a breathable cloth/blanket so it makes the crate more cozy and she can only see whats in front of it. Leave her with a kong stuffer with some soft treat to lick on. If she can handle a little space, maybe a playpen will work better for her. Stick with one option and train her little by little. Good luck.

[QueenB72]

Well, good morning to me🤬. Ok... this is why I am extremely frustrated by my earlier posts/threads not being uploaded because it explains ALOT about my situation, but instead, I am starting to feel like I am being puppy mom shamed. I suffer from Major Depressive disorder and severe Generalized Anxiety disorder that is well documented considering my multiple stays in the hospital. Do I have a letter from my psychiatrist, who was the one who educated me about what an ESA is... you bet your ass I do. And one from my therapist and Behavioral Health Specialist through my insurance. Also, an entire packet that I had to get signed by my psychiatrist, my therapist, the vet and a copy of her license from San Jose Animal control. So yes, she is a TRUE ESA dog in training and no I would never just SAY she is an ESA, so I hope that clears things up for you Matese.

Also, in regards to getting her too early, I had absolutely no choice in the matter since she was gifted to me. I also suspect that the breeder needed the cash sooner rather than later. And I am glad my ex did not pass up this opportunity to get her just because she was young. There are very few breeder in this part of California, and I wanted another Yorkie since they are hypoallergenic and wanted to raise one from puppy stage to train for the ESA and eventually become a therapy dog. I have seen first hand the sheer power that a therapy dog can have in soothing a person suffering from mental illness, both with my previous boy as well as through 4Paws that visited the psych wing in the hospital at Stanford I was in this past January.

In regards to comparing the Yorkies, they are the same breed, and I understand that like humans, they have different personalities. Saying that "they are clones" is an insult to my intelligence. I am not an idiot! My previous Yorkies were three years apart, but I got them at the proper age and did not have to experience the bulk of what I am experiencing now. I understand that, which is why I joined this forum in the first place. For advice... and the fact that it had been 7 years since I last experienced the puppy stage, and never this young. Boo Bear and Bella were 10 weeks when I brought them home and after just a few days, they were just fine. All I was asking for was advice versus criticism when people don't know the full story or my circumstances. I don't know if you have human children or not matese, but I have 4. And just like animals, of course they are not clones. But any parent that says they don't compare their children, whether it be how different the pregnancies were, or how they behaved at a certain age, etc would be lying. It completely natural to expect similar mannerism from the exact breed of dog. All breeds have similarities that are well documented. Doesn't mean that they are "clones" of one another. Nor would I expect that.

I appreciate the advice given thus far, but please ask me rather than assuming what my situation is, what I have or haven't tried. All of us on here have Yorkies, so if ANY ONE decides to say some crap like "adopt don't shop" or some other high horse crap, I will legit lose it. Sorry, but these responses to my very basic concerns have me a bit pissed at the moment. My anxiety makes me EXTREMELY sensitive, so maybe this is not the place for me. Thanks.

PS She has had a crate and playpen since day 1 and a crap ton of toys, chewy items, etc. and yes, I have tried or am currently trying all of the suggestions that were mentioned. I was well prepared and have spent a load of money trying to get everything she needs or would help the situation. Also, I don't live alone, so making sure that teens are consistent with how they react to her is not an easy task. I am trying here people! This too shall pass, but I don't want to be made to feel bad for wanting advice or asking questions. But some how, that is exactly how I feel right now.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by QueenB72

Great idea to give a gift basket to the downstairs neighbors. In regards to her seeing me while in her playpen, it's weird because she actually wails louder when she can see me like "Let me the hell out of here Mom!" I take her with me when I do school runs, but taking her to work may prove to be difficult. I am in pharmaceutical sales, so I am suppose to be in and out of doctors offices all day. Until she has had all of her shots, I just don't feel comfortable taking her in the field with me just yet. She is an ESA, so I may not get much push back, but she is not an official service dog, so I may not be able to take her all the time. I had to go to a work lunch today in about a town 40 minutes away. My daughters boyfriend stepped in and dog sat, but I told him to leave her in her playpen and see how long she wails for. I was gone for about 2 1/2 hours and he said she cried for "a long time." No idea what a long time is to a 20 year old kid, but if it was longer than 5 minutes, that's long enough. Not as concerned during the day about the noise because most people are at work. Not sure about the neighbors downstairs, and if they are home during the day, but it doesn't really matter at this point. She also got VERY aggressive tonight and I had to calm her down a bit because she was really hurting me. She just ignores the word no no matter what its attached to, like, "no biting." Or "Ouch." It's like she is spurred on to bite harder or her get more crazy. I have had many dogs theoughout my life and I have never seen anything like this!

Yeah your work doesn't have to allow her has an ESA but you never really know until you ask. She was taken from her mom to soon so she doesn't know about play biting versus hard biting. She doesn't know what the word no means she has to learn that. When she bites say No and remove yourself from where she can get to you. Yorkies are supposed to stay with there moms until 12 weeks because they learn all that stuff from their mom and siblings so now you have to teach her what they would. Don't engage after she bites say no and walk away. You also need to get her into a puppy class for socialization.

[matese]

Originally Posted by QueenB72

Well, good morning to me🤬. Ok... this is why I am extremely frustrated by my earlier posts/threads not being uploaded because it explains ALOT about my situation, but instead, I am starting to feel like I am being puppy mom shamed. I suffer from Major Depressive disorder and severe Generalized Anxiety disorder that is well documented considering my multiple stays in the hospital. Do I have a letter from my psychiatrist, who was the one who educated me about what an ESA is... you bet your ass I do. And one from my therapist and Behavioral Health Specialist through my insurance. Also, an entire packet that I had to get signed by my psychiatrist, my therapist, the vet and a copy of her license from San Jose Animal control. So yes, she is a TRUE ESA dog in training and no I would never just SAY she is an ESA, so I hope that clears things up for you Matese.

Also, in regards to getting her too early, I had absolutely no choice in the matter since she was gifted to me. I also suspect that the breeder needed the cash sooner rather than later. And I am glad my ex did not pass up this opportunity to get her just because she was young. There are very few breeder in this part of California, and I wanted another Yorkie since they are hypoallergenic and wanted to raise one from puppy stage to train for the ESA and eventually become a therapy dog. I have seen first hand the sheer power that a therapy dog can have in soothing a person suffering from mental illness, both with my previous boy as well as through 4Paws that visited the psych wing in the hospital at Stanford I was in this past January.

In regards to comparing the Yorkies, they are the same breed, and I understand that like humans, they have different personalities. Saying that "they are clones" is an insult to my intelligence. I am not an idiot! My previous Yorkies were three years apart, but I got them at the proper age and did not have to experience the bulk of what I am experiencing now. I understand that, which is why I joined this forum in the first place. For advice... and the fact that it had been 7 years since I last experienced the puppy stage, and never this young. Boo Bear and Bella were 10 weeks when I brought them home and after just a few days, they were just fine. All I was asking for was advice versus criticism when people don't know the full story or my circumstances. I don't know if you have human children or not matese, but I have 4. And just like animals, of course they are not clones. But any parent that says they don't compare their children, whether it be how different the pregnancies were, or how they behaved at a certain age, etc would be lying. It completely natural to expect similar mannerism from the exact breed of dog. All breeds have similarities that are well documented. Doesn't mean that they are "clones" of one another. Nor would I expect that.

I appreciate the advice given thus far, but please ask me rather than assuming what my situation is, what I have or haven't tried. All of us on here have Yorkies, so if ANY ONE decides to say some crap like "adopt don't shop" or some other high horse crap, I will legit lose it. Sorry, but these responses to my very basic concerns have me a bit pissed at the moment. My anxiety makes me EXTREMELY sensitive, so maybe this is not the place for me. Thanks.

PS She has had a crate and playpen since day 1 and a crap ton of toys, chewy items, etc. and yes, I have tried or am currently trying all of the suggestions that were mentioned. I was well prepared and have spent a load of money trying to get everything she needs or would help the situation. Also, I don't live alone, so making sure that teens are consistent with how they react to her is not an easy task. I am trying here people! This too shall pass, but I don't want to be made to feel bad for wanting advice or asking questions. But some how, that is exactly how I feel right now.

OMGoodness, there was no intent to insult you. I did not chastise you for getting a dog that should have been kept until 13 weeks old. I was trying to educate you and other new members that would be reading this thread of the proper age a puppy should be sold, as you see you are now having biting issues. I was trying to help you not damm you for having a young puppy. I am sorry you are offended, it was not meant to be taken that way. I am not going to defend the advise I offered you, I am going to step away from this thread. Good luck

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by QueenB72

Well, good morning to me🤬. Ok... this is why I am extremely frustrated by my earlier posts/threads not being uploaded because it explains ALOT about my situation, but instead, I am starting to feel like I am being puppy mom shamed. I suffer from Major Depressive disorder and severe Generalized Anxiety disorder that is well documented considering my multiple stays in the hospital. Do I have a letter from my psychiatrist, who was the one who educated me about what an ESA is... you bet your ass I do. And one from my therapist and Behavioral Health Specialist through my insurance. Also, an entire packet that I had to get signed by my psychiatrist, my therapist, the vet and a copy of her license from San Jose Animal control. So yes, she is a TRUE ESA dog in training and no I would never just SAY she is an ESA, so I hope that clears things up for you Matese.

Also, in regards to getting her too early, I had absolutely no choice in the matter since she was gifted to me. I also suspect that the breeder needed the cash sooner rather than later. And I am glad my ex did not pass up this opportunity to get her just because she was young. There are very few breeder in this part of California, and I wanted another Yorkie since they are hypoallergenic and wanted to raise one from puppy stage to train for the ESA and eventually become a therapy dog. I have seen first hand the sheer power that a therapy dog can have in soothing a person suffering from mental illness, both with my previous boy as well as through 4Paws that visited the psych wing in the hospital at Stanford I was in this past January.

In regards to comparing the Yorkies, they are the same breed, and I understand that like humans, they have different personalities. Saying that "they are clones" is an insult to my intelligence. I am not an idiot! My previous Yorkies were three years apart, but I got them at the proper age and did not have to experience the bulk of what I am experiencing now. I understand that, which is why I joined this forum in the first place. For advice... and the fact that it had been 7 years since I last experienced the puppy stage, and never this young. Boo Bear and Bella were 10 weeks when I brought them home and after just a few days, they were just fine. All I was asking for was advice versus criticism when people don't know the full story or my circumstances. I don't know if you have human children or not matese, but I have 4. And just like animals, of course they are not clones. But any parent that says they don't compare their children, whether it be how different the pregnancies were, or how they behaved at a certain age, etc would be lying. It completely natural to expect similar mannerism from the exact breed of dog. All breeds have similarities that are well documented. Doesn't mean that they are "clones" of one another. Nor would I expect that.

I appreciate the advice given thus far, but please ask me rather than assuming what my situation is, what I have or haven't tried. All of us on here have Yorkies, so if ANY ONE decides to say some crap like "adopt don't shop" or some other high horse crap, I will legit lose it. Sorry, but these responses to my very basic concerns have me a bit pissed at the moment. My anxiety makes me EXTREMELY sensitive, so maybe this is not the place for me. Thanks.

PS She has had a crate and playpen since day 1 and a crap ton of toys, chewy items, etc. and yes, I have tried or am currently trying all of the suggestions that were mentioned. I was well prepared and have spent a load of money trying to get everything she needs or would help the situation. Also, I don't live alone, so making sure that teens are consistent with how they react to her is not an easy task. I am trying here people! This too shall pass, but I don't want to be made to feel bad for wanting advice or asking questions. But some how, that is exactly how I feel right now.

I think your taking something how it was not meant. I get that you don't know us as well as we know each other but nothing was meant bad. I rescued one of my boys at 9 weeks old after him having 2 homes before mine and I went through all the things that puppies go through by being taken from mom to early so I'm trying to help by experience. My boy had separation anxiety and biting issues. We are just trying to give you the why. Reputable breeders follow the Yorkshire Terrier Club of Americas rules which state a puppy should not leave the mom until 12 weeks because mom is still teaching them. There are A LOT of people who don't know that but it doesn't necessarily mean you are bad or the puppy is bad it just means there are going to be a few more struggles. One thing I also recommend is pet insurance when getting a puppy especially if from a non reputable breeder and I learned that from experience too. I also have mental health issues and cannot work and have to be on disability. I have anxiety, depression, panic attacks, and what is formally known as aspergers. My oldest was my serive dog but she is 12 and getting to old. These dogs are very smart but can be very stubborn. I have 4 and have learned new things which each one of them and rarely have gone through the same thing with each one. Anyway WE are here to help.

[AbbysMom08]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

How old is he? He would be better if he could see you when he is being contained. You would be better off setting up a play pen in your main area for when you are eating dinner and such. Then use a crate at night where he can see you in bed. I pup was separated from his mom to early and he separation anxiety so bad that just being in the bathroom with me was not enough and he would get in the shower with me. He eventually got better but he follows me around everywhere. What your describing is pretty normal and not necessarily separation anxiety. With all of mine even in the crate at night there was crying and it took a week or two for them to get into the system. I don’t want to come off as mean or anything but when you get a puppy or dog it should be yours forever even if it means orking through hard stuff. 3 days is not a long time for him to get used to everything and this really sounds like normal new puppy stuff.

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[Nikula]

Dogs, especially for a new puppy, do not perform well in adapting a new living environment, compared with getting used to a new owner. So, it's normal for your boy to depend on you all day. The first thing you should do is to build up his courage and confidence. For example, lead your pup (on a leash) to the places around your house. It allows your puppy to sniff and get familiar with everything near his new home. It's better to find places without too many people, animals, or noise, so he can reduce the alert to "communicate" with different scents and sounds. If he behaves calmly without fear, you would give him some treats to reward today's job. This process may cost about one week or more.
Walking him outside more than 30 minutes before sleep time can consume lots of energy and help your boy sleep much soundly at night. However, sleeping with your pup could increase his anxiety. Therefore, it's better to put him into a crate or separate it by a baby gate, but let him see you through the "fence".
If you have to leave home for work in the day, I suggest you prepare somethings to waste the time and distract the tension, such as putting some treats in the Kong and playing music. See more tips below: http://bit.ly/how-to-deal-with-dog-separation-anxiety

[lilgidget]

Sounds like some good advice. Keep us posted.

[matese]

Originally Posted by lilgidget

Sounds like some good advice. Keep us posted.

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