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01-29-2011, 12:21 PM | #1 |
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| Teaching QUIET By First Training TO bark My dogs are barkers. They love watching out the window but they bark at passing cars, birds and other dogs. Max barks during our entire walk. I recently read that in order to teach a dog to NOT bark, you need to teach your dog what barking is. When Max and I are walking and he's barking I'll easily get his attention. When I tell him QUIET or NO he will sit, lay down, give me paw. He wants to do what I'm asking but doesn't understand. I'm a little torn if I should teach them to bark on command because believe me, they know how to bark! But I do understand the logic. I'm following a little bit of what I read here: Meet the Barkers | i Love Dogs I'm not setting it up as they say but I am following the same general idea. If my dogs could talk they would be saying "What the heck are you doing mommy?". I do think it could work though. What are your thoughts?
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01-29-2011, 02:22 PM | #2 |
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| Very interesting article. I agree that adding a second dog can make barking problems worse. Although Teddy isn't a barker, Max's barking dramatically increased after Teddy joined our family. I have been trying off and on to teach Max to bark on command with zero success. Maybe clicker training will help with this too.
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01-29-2011, 07:04 PM | #3 |
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| great post...Marcie is a barker with a capital B. Lucy used to not bark however she now has became a barker too. So I am looking for advice also. They bark on command but it's the quiet command they ignore. I know they think their mom is nuts. |
01-29-2011, 07:10 PM | #4 | |
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I'm going to work on this a few times a day. I really think we can do this. I also found it interesting when that article stated that dogs think when they bark at a delivery person it causes that person to leave. It's only because they've already delivered the item and they are done! It's very interesting trying to understand my boys' behavior.
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01-29-2011, 08:38 PM | #5 |
Thor's Human Donating Member | I tried to teach Speak/Quiet together, but had limited success. He has to get really worked up to bark on command, so usually I have to give him the command several times in a row. He knows what "Quiet" means, but uses his own judgment on when silence is appropriate. We also definitely went through a period where he "offered" barking behavior a lot, because if I would command him to do it, I must enjoy it, right? I think he just can't quite believe that I don't want him to fend off all the terrifying people/dogs/mailboxes that we come across. If I'm sitting in my office and someone comes in, he'll bark very menacingly, even if he knows them. Then when I tell him Quiet, he starts whining and making odd yorkie noises. I'm pretty sure it's because the urge to defend and the urge to obey are too much for his little brain to handle simulataneously. Anyway, please let us know how it goes -- I'm very interested to see!
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01-30-2011, 05:21 AM | #6 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member | Like a lot of our pups, Tuffy is at times pretty vocal; so much so that it seemed for a bit he'd never stop barking when we met new people/dogs/situations. I also thought like you, that if he understood it was ok at times to speak he'd better grasp the "hush" that we chose to use to attempt to quiet him when needed. It's worked for the most part I use Zukes small training treats broken into 1/4s & worked the "speak" & "hush" commands right into our fun tricks. Bella doesn't bark (yet?!) which seems odd. Good luck!
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01-30-2011, 07:32 AM | #7 | |
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01-30-2011, 09:30 AM | #8 |
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| I'll let everyone know how it goes. Today is day 2 of bark/quiet training. So far Max is so confused he hasn't barked at anything! Cooper could care less, but it's only day 2 He's not very food oriented. May have to bring out the good stuff.
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01-30-2011, 04:27 PM | #9 |
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| Snickers is ball obsessed and when we were getting ready to play fetch he'd start barking in excitement and anticipation. When he did that, we started saying, "Speak!" at the same time and he caught on pretty quickly to the association because he got the reward of fetching his ball immediately after. However, the not "speaking" thing is something we are still working on. He is not too bad most days, but occassionally he will sense everything outside and bark at any dog or person who walks by. He'll be dead asleep on my lap and then suddenly jump up and go nuts. I look out the window and there will be someone walking their dog by the house. I always can't believe he knows! |
01-30-2011, 04:30 PM | #10 | |
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01-30-2011, 08:18 PM | #11 |
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| If we got rid of his balls for even a day, I swear, all hell would break loose around here. My dog is a bit....active....Unfortunately, he does not understand that not everyone has the energy to walk 2 miles and then play fetch for 2.5 hours more as soon as we get home (and this is no exaggeration. He's like the energizer bunny.) And sometimes, even though we love him, we have work to do around here! Somebody has to wash his dishes! |
01-30-2011, 09:19 PM | #12 |
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| The barking issue I have is whenever I go into my husband's office and stand there to talk to him, Toby comes in and starts barking up a storm. I don't know what the deal is. My husband will be sitting at his desk and I am standing in his room talking to him and I have to pick Toby up to quiet him (I know, that's probably the wrong thing to do). I've tried telling him QUIET but it just makes him bark more. Ughhhhhhhh Why do they have to be so darned cute.
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01-30-2011, 10:12 PM | #13 | |
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01-31-2011, 12:36 AM | #14 |
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| My issue was whining with Maggie. OMG, was she ever a whiner. She still will whine from time to time but no where near what she used to. I did clicker training with her in class so with that in my case it was easier to "train" her not to whine. Since she seemed to whine from the moment she heard me get up until I picked her up, it was easy for me to get her to understand that she got a click and reward for being quiet. I realize that barking and whining are not the same, but the concept is the same...quiet gets rewarded and they need to know that there is a difference between quiet and the noisy thing of either barking or whining.
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