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AllDogBoots · 01-31-2011, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximo

I had some success this morning quieting Max. The boys now have a little platform to sit on to look out the front window. Teddy quietly watched all of the activity in the street, but Max wanted to do his usual barking. I praised Teddy for sitting quietly, so Max was jealous and managed to control himself for the garbage truck and school buses. He broke when a dog walker went by.

Do you think dogs understand when you praise another dog for their behavior. Cooper barks on command now with no problem. I continually click and treat. Max sits right next to him but doesn't understand why I'm praising Cooper. I would think that Max would "get it". However, Max is not beginning to bark on command. It's a little quiet "ooof" that comes out. Not sure where he found his quiet voice!

The mail carrier should be here soon

QuickSilver · 01-31-2011, 10:47 AM

From what I've read, dogs don't learn from watching others that well. This differs from apes and humans ("aping"), and cats ("copy cat"). I'm sure there are exceptions.

Maximo · 01-31-2011, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

Do you think dogs understand when you praise another dog for their behavior. Cooper barks on command now with no problem. I continually click and treat. Max sits right next to him but doesn't understand why I'm praising Cooper. I would think that Max would "get it". However, Max is not beginning to bark on command. It's a little quiet "ooof" that comes out. Not sure where he found his quiet voice!

The mail carrier should be here soon

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Originally Posted by QuickSilver

From what I've read, dogs don't learn from watching others that well. This differs from apes and humans ("aping"), and cats ("copy cat"). I'm sure there are exceptions.

I have observed a clear dynamic between Max and Teddy where if one is praised for something, the other will repeat the same behavior (if they know it already) or another behavior to garner praise. There is a general tendency to follow each others lead, mainly Teddy following Max. However, neither one of them has learned a specific behavior/skill from the other. Teddy still won't shake/give me paw despite having seen Max do it a thousand times.

Maximo · 01-31-2011, 11:14 AM

Adding to above: My boys won't mimic a specific trick, but they will mirror general behaviors. For instance, Teddy has learned from Max to come and perform a series of sits in front of me if he wants something.

AllDogBoots · 01-31-2011, 11:19 AM

Good input, thanks.

The mail carrier came. I'm ok with the initial bark. Saying "quiet" did nothing but i was able to reinforce what quiet is by feeding them chicken breast pieces while the mail carrier was at the door.

That being said, we just had a horrendous barking walk and i couldn't control them.

We were doing ok until a truck passed us very closely. The 2 of them barked wildly and didn't care I was there. I'll just keep working at it. I imagine this will take a few weeks if not longer.

Maximo · 01-31-2011, 02:45 PM

I thought of another behavior Max learned watching other dogs: kicking after potty.

Karen, you remember this one. Although, I would attribute this to instinct 'kicking' in. Teddy is a kicker and we always cheer him. Max watched this and then saw his dachshund friend do it. From that day on, Max started kicking.

AllDogBoots · 01-31-2011, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximo

I thought of another behavior Max learned watching other dogs: kicking after potty.

Karen, you remember this one. Although, I would attribute this to instinct 'kicking' in. Teddy is a kicker and we always cheer him. Max watched this and then saw his dachshund friend do it. From that day on, Max started kicking.

I do remember that. And since that kicking thread I've seen Cooper do it a number of times but not often. Max has never done that. I think Max mimics some of Cooper's negative behaviors like barking out the window or running to the front of the house barking when a car passes. I think Max would ignore it otherwise.

I have to tape Max barking on command. It is hilarious.

salazark · 02-01-2011, 10:54 AM

This is a really interesting thread! I fully believe that Beemer "learned" to lift his leg from my nephew's dog. He had never done it and we visited for a weekend. When we got home he started lifting his leg. It was the cutest thing though. He would nearly fall over trying to get it right. That's another thread though!

AllDogBoots · 02-01-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by salazark

This is a really interesting thread! I fully believe that Beemer "learned" to lift his leg from my nephew's dog. He had never done it and we visited for a weekend. When we got home he started lifting his leg. It was the cutest thing though. He would nearly fall over trying to get it right. That's another thread though!

There is a hilarious thread somewhere on YT about boys lifting their legs to potty. I agree that it is so adorable. I'll try to find that for you.

EDIT: Got it! http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...g-lifters.html

YorkichonBella · 02-01-2011, 11:41 AM

My daughter's Cole is an avid "Barker". I've posted about it before. He is such a gentle soul and sweet little guy.....except for the high pitched barking. He barks at commercials, animated characters, & of course....other animals. He is so smart & she has taught him lots of tricks & even taught him to bark "on command". It really seems to help.

AllDogBoots · 02-01-2011, 11:55 AM

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My daughter's Cole is an avid "Barker". I've posted about it before. He is such a gentle soul and sweet little guy.....except for the high pitched barking. He barks at commercials, animated characters, & of course....other animals. He is so smart & she has taught him lots of tricks & even taught him to bark "on command". It really seems to help.

I think it might help. I suppose each dog is different. This morning the USPS delivery person came and I yelled from my office "QUIET!!!". Max came running to me and sat quietly waiting for his treat. I was so pleased with him. Cooper continued barking like an attack dog.

YorkichonBella · 02-01-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

I think it might help. I suppose each dog is different. This morning the USPS delivery person came and I yelled from my office "QUIET!!!". Max came running to me and sat quietly waiting for his treat. I was so pleased with him. Cooper continued barking like an attack dog.

awwww Good boy Max!
I know it's so hard. I mean how can you get upset when Cooper is trying to protect you. Good Luck!

AllDogBoots · 02-01-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkichonBella

awwww Good boy Max!
I know it's so hard. I mean how can you get upset when Cooper is trying to protect you. Good Luck!

Good point. That is, if attack = kill them with kisses.

marcie · 02-01-2011, 01:45 PM

Still working on it. Marcie is doing better. When I say quiet she comes running for her treats too. But afterwards starts to bark again.

Maximo · 02-01-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AllDogBoots

I think it might help. I suppose each dog is different. This morning the USPS delivery person came and I yelled from my office "QUIET!!!". Max came running to me and sat quietly waiting for his treat. I was so pleased with him. Cooper continued barking like an attack dog.

Good boy Max!

Max and Teddy were both quiet this morning sitting on their platform looking out the window. Granted, we didn't have school buses today. There was some activity out on the street, so it was a big accomplishment for Maxman.

01-31-2011, 10:47 AM	#17
QuickSilver Thor's Human Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,929 Blog Entries: 31	From what I've read, dogs don't learn from watching others that well. This differs from apes and humans ("aping"), and cats ("copy cat"). I'm sure there are exceptions. __________________ If you love something, set it free. Unless it's an angry tiger.

01-31-2011, 11:14 AM	#19
Maximo ♥ Maximo and Teddy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 25,047	Adding to above: My boys won't mimic a specific trick, but they will mirror general behaviors. For instance, Teddy has learned from Max to come and perform a series of sits in front of me if he wants something. __________________ Kristin, Max and Teddy

01-31-2011, 11:19 AM	#20
AllDogBoots Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Delray Beach, FL Posts: 7,984	Good input, thanks. The mail carrier came. I'm ok with the initial bark. Saying "quiet" did nothing but i was able to reinforce what quiet is by feeding them chicken breast pieces while the mail carrier was at the door. That being said, we just had a horrendous barking walk and i couldn't control them. We were doing ok until a truck passed us very closely. The 2 of them barked wildly and didn't care I was there. I'll just keep working at it. I imagine this will take a few weeks if not longer. __________________ I'm Karen - Devoted Mama to the Drama Boyz - Cooper & Max www.alldogboots.com

01-31-2011, 02:45 PM	#21
Maximo ♥ Maximo and Teddy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 25,047	I thought of another behavior Max learned watching other dogs: kicking after potty. Karen, you remember this one. Although, I would attribute this to instinct 'kicking' in. Teddy is a kicker and we always cheer him. Max watched this and then saw his dachshund friend do it. From that day on, Max started kicking. __________________ Kristin, Max and Teddy

02-01-2011, 10:54 AM	#23
salazark Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 941	This is a really interesting thread! I fully believe that Beemer "learned" to lift his leg from my nephew's dog. He had never done it and we visited for a weekend. When we got home he started lifting his leg. It was the cutest thing though. He would nearly fall over trying to get it right. That's another thread though! __________________ *Karen and the Kids* Sadie and Beemer

02-01-2011, 11:41 AM	#25
YorkichonBella My little Shadow Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NC Posts: 4,132 Blog Entries: 2	My daughter's Cole is an avid "Barker". I've posted about it before. He is such a gentle soul and sweet little guy.....except for the high pitched barking. He barks at commercials, animated characters, & of course....other animals. He is so smart & she has taught him lots of tricks & even taught him to bark "on command". It really seems to help. __________________ Bella Ganma-ma to ColeRIPNoahRIP

02-01-2011, 01:45 PM	#29
marcie and Lucy too Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ohio Posts: 6,325	Still working on it. Marcie is doing better. When I say quiet she comes running for her treats too. But afterwards starts to bark again.